[06:13:53] <greg-g>	 g'morning :)
[06:31:09] <maxlath[m]>	 good morning! warm-up question: anyone having a clue how I could delete one of my user pages? I created this page https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Maxlath/wikidp.js to debug someone else's script, but wouldn't need it anymore
[07:27:32] <addshore>	 Mooornninngg
[07:29:51] <Lucas_WMDE>	 morning!
[07:31:21] <Lucas_WMDE>	 would anyone be interested in a small session on Graal? (JVM technology that can run a bunch of different languages in combination, e. g. call Ruby and JavaScript from your Node application served in a Java web server)
[07:31:35] <Lucas_WMDE>	 I already asked on Twitter, but so far the only reactions are from Graal developers :D
[07:59:46] <Isarra>	 Man, how do people get up so early?
[08:00:15] <James_F>	 Isarra: Magic.
[08:01:15] <Isarra>	 
ACTION siphons James_F's magic.

[08:01:30] <harej>	 When I travel to Europe I make a point of arriving in the late afternoon so I can go right from the plane to the hotel to bed.
[08:01:38] <harej>	 And this generally helps me reset my sleep cycle.
[08:02:06] <harej>	 It's great! If only this worked in the place where I actually live
[08:02:15] <James_F>	 harej: Hard to do if you're not flying from the West Coast or from DC/NYC though.
[08:11:52] <brendan_campbell>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX1ZVh1k2nw
[08:17:08] <Isarra>	 harej: Hard to do that when you were getting up at noon and are surrounded by people who go to bed at 2am regardless. >.>
[08:26:17] <maxbinder>	 In case it was not already mentioned: the session "Design Workshop - Mobile Editing" has been moved to 15:00 (3 PM) and to the room Q3/0009. :)
[08:40:11] <tonythomas>	 FlorianSW: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Math/blob/master/.eslintrc.json - here is where we got it from 
[08:47:10] <Lucas_WMDE>	 I just added a new session: “A brief look at Graal”, 17:00 in Q3/0009
[08:57:34] <Isarra>	 Somebody still has my bag and I would like it back.
[08:57:55] <Isarra>	 If you're not finnish and you have a prisma shopping bag in yours, it's probably the wrong bag.
[09:04:58] <awight>	 Isarra: my guess is that someone is carrying around a bag and hasn't opened it.  Maybe you can cause your water bottle to explode via high-frequency energy waves...
[09:05:14] <Isarra>	 NO I WANT THAT WATER BOTTLE.
[09:05:22] <Isarra>	 It was from vienna. >.>
[09:05:43] <awight>	 this is terrible
[09:06:36] <MatmaRex>	 is there anyone currently in Q3/0003 who could advise if there are any free power sockets there? ;)
[09:08:36] <jdlrobson>	 kpfc: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T178194
[09:08:48] <Isarra>	 ...where the hell is anything.
[09:09:22] <Isarra>	 This is just like university all over again.
[09:09:25] <Isarra>	 ...wait.
[09:11:38] <harej>	 MatmaRex: there are power sockets in the front of the room
[09:14:12] <MatmaRex>	 thanks
[09:23:48] <davidwbarratt>	 Looking for someone to review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/433719 :)
[09:24:26] <bawolff>	 TIL what the name ORES comes from
[09:29:34] <CFisch_WMDE>	 You are a volunteer and frustrated because it's hard to find tasks on Phabricator? Even though you know the "Easy" and "Need volunteer" tag? Checkout the session at 12pm "Fix the recommendation system" in room "Sala de projectes" (QC/0011)  
[09:29:47] <CFisch_WMDE>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T194657
[09:32:18] <jdlrobson>	 bd808: are you around?
[09:32:27] <jdlrobson>	 having problems with a vagrant install
[09:38:14] <bawolff>	 davidwbarratt: The other way that people make vendor and stuff out of the web root, is have mediawiki entirely somewhere else, and then use apache alias directives to load the needed stuff
[09:43:32] <zeljkof>	 Selenium help is available all day today and tomorrow! https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7Aa7JdrW/IMG_20180518_153449.jpg
[09:47:00] <davidwbarratt>	 bawolff uhh, I mean that would work, but in my case it wouldn't because core itself is loaded with Composer
[09:47:20] <bawolff>	 Just mentioning as an aside
[09:47:44] <davidwbarratt>	 bawolff oh ok, yeah that's not a bad idea in general. What do we do at wmf?
[09:48:01] <awight>	 Anybody want to give me the 5-minute overview of current JS framework recommendations?
[09:48:02] <bawolff>	 davidwbarratt: Sort of that, but not quite
[09:48:25] <bawolff>	 We have a layer of indirection to determine which version of MediaWiki to run, since we have multiple versions in production at once
[09:48:46] <davidwbarratt>	 awight sure. :) but I am opinionated. :)
[09:48:56] <davidwbarratt>	 bawolff oooo
[09:49:12] <awight>	 lol davidwbarratt want to meet in the hallway?
[09:49:14] <bawolff>	 davidwbarratt: See the w directory in operations/mediawiki-config git repo
[09:49:31] <davidwbarratt>	 awight I'm in the main hallway sitting with commtech.
[09:49:44] <awight>	 :) be right there
[09:50:55] <bawolff>	 davidwbarratt: but there's a lot of hacky stuff MWMultiVersion
[09:51:23] <Krinkle>	 Relaying a question: Do the shuttle busses still go from hotel to venue at this time?
[09:52:08] <CFisch_WMDE>	 yes they should
[09:52:20] <Krinkle>	 CFisch_WMDE: At the whole hour?
[09:52:36] <Krinkle>	 From the wiki page, it's unclear to me whether they actually run between 10:00 and 18:00
[09:53:00] <CFisch_WMDE>	 no idea when i just know they are going over the whole day
[09:53:17] <Krinkle>	 Okay, thanks 
[09:55:32] <vgutierrez>	 Krinkle: next at 12:30 AFAIk
[10:04:44] <jdlrobson>	 ineed some vagrant help. anyone?
[10:08:16] <edsanders>	 No projector cable in Q30003 :(
[10:08:20] <awight>	 jdlrobson: maybe I can help...
[10:08:23] <awight>	 you in a room?
[10:08:42] <awight>	 jdlrobson: I also wanted to chat about wikilabels <- react
[10:09:06] <bawolff>	 davidwbarratt: Also, you may be interested in maintenance/dev which is a long abandoned attempt at doing something I think is mildly similar (but quite different from what you're doing)
[10:13:04] <rfarrand>	 bd808: i am bring you a mentee! 
[10:16:15] <bd808>	 Rfarrand: awesome. I’m out catching Pokémon with Reedy and sebrand right now
[10:26:11] <rfarrand>	 bd808: when you have some time can you go fine tonythomas at the hacking table in the hall?
[10:27:19] <tonythomas>	 rfarrand: I have pointed them to https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmhack2018-projects and  t.me/wmhackmentoring 
[10:28:24] <rfarrand>	 OK, great. Thank you :) 
[10:28:27] <rfarrand>	 Do you need more help ?
[10:28:30] <rfarrand>	 tonythomas ^
[10:29:13] <tonythomas>	 I dont think so at this point. I expect they would go through the list and contact mentors on the telegram channel. Should be fine I guess. 
[10:30:45] <marktraceur>	 Does anyone feel like looking at my apache2 configuration and telling me why there's a redirect loop? I feel like I could use a fresh set of eyes.
[10:30:58] <marktraceur>	 I was going to ask bd808 but if he's out and about I'll take whoever
[10:34:02] <Isarra>	 I could give you some advice how to change your problem to an even confusing different problem in a bit, if you'd like.
[10:34:07] <Isarra>	 even more confusing*
[10:35:28] <marktraceur>	 Thanks Isarra.
[10:39:06] <harej>	 Current hackathon project: working through 41 notifications on my volunteer account
[10:39:28] <Isarra>	 marktraceur: ...where are you, anyway? I can find you after this session (or maybe just go whenever, as she's already covered what was the most important thing to me...)
[10:39:52] <marktraceur>	 Isarra: I'm at the far end of the hallway at the SDC table
[10:40:21] <Isarra>	 (HOW DO YOU START DOING STUFF?! Turns out with ooui it's pretty easy these days!)
[10:40:33] <Isarra>	 Mmkay.
[10:40:35] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: if I want my browser test to do login - is there something I can just call and it would do the login, or do I redirect to UserLogin, and then create, and then login and >.. 
[10:41:13] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: UserLogin has login function
[10:41:15] <Isarra>	 ...okay, maybe this isn't as simple as I thought...
[10:41:29] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: so UserLogin.login(username, password)
[10:41:44] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: nice. let me see how that go 
[10:41:49] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: grep core code, there should be examples
[10:41:51] <harej>	 OOUI is easy now!? Sweet
[10:42:36] <Isarra>	 Well, there is this .connect thing...
[10:42:57] <Isarra>	 Tad strange.
[10:43:00] <FlorianSW>	 eddiegp: regarding writing tests for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/433774/ If you want, we can sit down together and go through it, after lunch maybe? :)
[10:43:15] <jdlrobson>	 awight: sure i'll come find you!
[10:46:49] <marktraceur>	 Isarra: I'll probably wander to lunch soon though.
[10:47:53] <harej>	 Isarra: infusion?
[10:47:59] <harej>	 no, that's a different thing...
[10:49:09] <quiddity>	 Everyone, please take a look at the Showcase and Project list page, and start thinking about how you can describe your work this weekend!
[10:49:10] <quiddity>	 https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_hackathon_showcase_2018
[10:50:38] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: works, thanks. 
[10:50:50] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: /me thumbs up :)
[10:51:03] <awight>	 jdlrobson: I'm on the north end of the hallway, I think.
[10:51:28] <awight>	 You can recognize me cos I'm struggling with passing data around a React project
[10:52:25] <Isarra>	 marktraceur: Okay.
[10:52:36] <Isarra>	 harej: Where are you?
[10:52:43] <harej>	 Outside
[10:52:46] <harej>	 Incidentally, so is Mark
[10:53:23] <Isarra>	 Oh.
[10:53:46] <Isarra>	 I shall... maybe find you.
[11:04:08] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: stuck again. 
[11:04:08] <tonythomas>	 ```
[11:04:08] <tonythomas>	 		LoginPage.login( browser.options.username, browser.options.password );
[11:04:08] <tonythomas>	 		EditPage.edit( 'Main newsletter page', 'test data' );
[11:04:08] <tonythomas>	 ``` 
[11:04:09] <tonythomas>	 and the output - https://dpaste.de/TD7F/raw 
[11:05:39] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: where are you? same place as yesterday? I'm under the Selenium sign
[11:17:44] <eddiegp>	 FlorianSW: Nice, yes, let's do that! :)
[11:18:59] <marxarelli>	 calling anyone who knows python esoterica (wheels/pip/venv/etc.) to help us fix our python support in blubber :)
[11:19:12] <marxarelli>	 awight ^ ?
[11:19:39] <JeanFred[m]>	 marxarelli: Might be able to help ?
[11:21:00] <marxarelli>	 JeanFred[m]: great!
[11:21:23] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: in fact - the last table (main hallfway). unfortunately, having lunch now. Probably I will find you after food. 
[11:21:48] <marxarelli>	 JeanFred[m]: where can i come find you?
[11:22:50] <JeanFred[m]>	 marxarelli: I’m in the main corridor, facing the wall, next to the movement strategy track table and the Design help table
[11:23:21] <JeanFred[m]>	 marxarelli: Also close to the Guernica painting on the wall
[11:23:43] <harej>	 Notification Inbox Zero! Finally.
[11:23:49] <harej>	 I had notifications going back to January.
[11:46:39] <Quasipodo>	 is there anybody in the room familiar with pywikibot for third-party wikis?
[11:48:22] <bawolff>	 Is ElhuyarFundazioa
[11:48:22] <bawolff>	 Or anyone associated with wikispeech here?
[11:49:56] <pintoch>	 OpenRefine session starting in 10 min in Sala de Projectes (QC0011)! :)
[11:52:07] <tgr>	 GitGadgets task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187749
[11:52:21] <Trizek>	 thanks tgr 
[11:52:41] <tgr>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/427622/
[12:04:16] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: done with lunch, sitting near Selenium sign
[12:04:21] <tonythomas>	 perf 
[12:05:13] <brendan_campbell>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXSqbNxsyhg
[12:06:22] <bawolff_>	 Is User:Lokal_Profil at the hackathon?
[12:07:02] <JeanFred[m]>	 bawolff_: Not this time no :-(
[12:07:33] <bawolff_>	 Ah ok. There's a new person here who wants to do stuff related to text-to-speech and I'm trying to find anyone associated with the wikispeech stuff
[12:08:03] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: I am right beneath that btw :D 
[12:09:01] <zeljkof>	 marktraceur: added you as a collaborator :) waiting for your code contributions https://github.com/zeljkofilipin/ukulele-to-wikitext
[12:09:04] <bawolff_>	 ok, appearently someone named Igor Leturia
[12:12:22] <rfarrand>	 The wifi at the Holiday Inn hotel is down and they have stated that they will not be able to fix it. Please make sure to plan for all wifi/data needs here at the venue which is open 24 hours a day until 10pm Sunday night. 
[12:13:40] <greg-g>	 ya'll broke it
[12:13:55] <Nudin>	 Is anyone from the lingua-libre on the hackathon?
[12:14:59] <addshore>	 rfarrand: ;_;
[12:15:08] <addshore>	 oh wait, i'm not in the holiday inn....
[12:15:46] <marktraceur>	 zeljkof: you might be on your own
[12:16:21] <marktraceur>	 Nudin: There's a sign for that at the far end of the main hallway, you might try asking near it
[12:17:53] <zeljkof>	 physikerwelt: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/433737/
[12:20:53] <zeljkof>	 physikerwelt: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/430515/
[12:36:34] <awight>	 I hear there's a room for making voice calls?
[12:36:49] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: found the issue. with debug toolbar enabled - the page tests wont run. SAD. 
[12:38:57] <quiddity>	 awight, outside is probably your best bet. Or talk to one of the yellow-tag volunteers.
[12:46:26] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: ouch! do you think we need to fix it? just create phab task and cc me if the answer is yes :)
[12:47:07] <tonythomas>	 I think it makes sense. yes. also - do we have some example of browser tests examining tables (like a tablePager) ? 
[12:49:21] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195055 
[12:49:32] <DanielK_WMDE>	 sjoerddebruin: alias gamend='git commit -a --amend --reuse-message=HEAD'
[12:51:18] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: thanks! will take a look
[12:53:06] <sjoerddebruin>	 DanielK_WMDE: thank you!
[13:00:09] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: I'm here if you need me
[13:00:42] <Lucas_WMDE>	 cool, that’s probably faster than exchanging tweets :)
[13:00:50] <bawolff_>	 Security training for MW extensions and gadgets now happening in Sessions principals if folks are interested
[13:00:55] <marktraceur>	 Keegan: Where are you????
[13:01:04] <Lucas_WMDE>	 Harmonia_Amanda: though I’m in a session right now, not sure when I can continue with the namescript
[13:01:26] <bawolff_>	 Also if anyone has a converter for HDMI to  thunderbolt I could use one :)
[13:02:23] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: no problem
[13:07:06] <brendan_campbell>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SBPPDr59dw
[13:12:28] <bd808>	 rfarrand, tonythomas: I'm finally done messing about and totally ready to help people if you still have someone who needs me.
[13:12:47] <tonythomas>	 bd808: I cannot find them now here though :o 
[13:13:05] <rfarrand>	 tonythomas: do you think they got the help they needed?
[13:13:32] <rfarrand>	 I  have another newcomer here with me in the lobby who just asked for help in the telegram mentoring channel 
[13:13:32] <bd808>	 blerg. I'm sitting next to JeanFred[m] across from the strategy table if you find them again
[13:13:40] <tonythomas>	 rfarrand: I cannot say for sure, but I guess they were pointed to the resources. I will post this message in our newcomers group anyway. 
[13:13:49] <rfarrand>	 so if anyone can help get him started that would be excellent :) 
[13:21:48] <bd808>	 rfarrand: if they are still up there with you, you can send them to me. In the hacking hall just past where the food is served. Bald guy with a green bandana around my head
[13:39:57] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: > tonythomas> I think it makes sense. yes. also - do we have some example of browser tests examining tables (like a tablePager) ? < 
[13:40:15] <tonythomas>	 seems really tricky tbh 
[13:48:46] <awight>	 akosiaris: Hey, I saw that you're around!  I'm chatting with oriolsoriano about a Dockerfile he wrote for ORES, it's going quite well.  We were hoping to pick your brain about the long-term Kubernetes plans, when you have a moment...
[13:49:08] <harej>	 I would love to learn how to Docker.
[13:49:11] <harej>	 Kuuubernetes. Yes.
[13:49:23] <awight>	 lol we're at the far South end of tha hall
[13:50:43] <harej>	 My sense of cardinal directions hasn't been great. Far from the entrance or really close to it?
[13:56:59] <FlorianSW>	 thanks Thiemo_WMDE for merging my patch regarding the autofocus in Nuke :D
[14:01:42] <bd808>	 JeanFred[m]: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:SSH_Fingerprints/tools-dev.wmflabs.org
[14:02:20] <brendan_campbell>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGjrVfxx32E
[14:02:37] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: no as far as I know
[14:03:00] <tonythomas>	 perf. :-( 
[14:06:44] <Isarra>	 I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT I STILL NEED MY BAG. And hat. And other bags in the bag.
[14:10:31] <kpfc>	 vagrant up gives me a ssh timeout when mounting nfs shared folders
[14:10:44] <kpfc>	 vagrant ssh gives “OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 100020af, you have 1000106f”
[14:11:00] <davidwbarratt>	 yay! https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166956#4217167
[14:12:38] <greg-g>	 James_F: location? "quick" question re citoid
[14:13:10] <bd808>	 kpfc: hmmm.. I have not seen that OpenSSL error message before. I do see this stackoverflow question that seems similar -- https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24096069/openssl-version-mismatch-built-against-1000105f-you-have-10001080
[14:13:11] <James_F>	 greg-g: MCR workshop. Out at 17:00 if that works?
[14:14:15] <bd808>	 kpfc: I'm not sure from your report if that error is coming from your local host or from inside the Vagrant managed container
[14:14:50] <greg-g>	 James_F: I might head to the tech comm meeting at that point, but if you can give JR a briefer on citoid history at some point that'd be awesome :)
[14:15:04] <James_F>	 greg-g: Sure.
[14:18:55] <kpfc_>	 bd808: Already saw that stackoverflow question, but this did not work
[14:23:01] <JeanFred[m]>	 addshore: Victory!
[14:23:19] <JeanFred[m]>	 addshore: I could use your input on some polishing :)
[14:23:56] <greg-g>	 erikab: you around?
[14:24:19] <Lucas_WMDE>	 Harmonia_Amanda: so what exactly should the new namescript do? delete all descriptions, then apply the old namescript?
[14:24:26] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: yes
[14:24:38] <Lucas_WMDE>	 and do anything with labels?
[14:24:50] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 namescript already complete labels
[14:24:56] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 and aliases
[14:25:44] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 but if we delete labels, we also lose transliterations
[14:26:00] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 which namescript can't do
[14:26:36] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 so it's better if automatically we can correct descriptions and aliases (with delete + namescript)
[14:26:49] <Lucas_WMDE>	 okay
[14:26:55] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 and we can then handle manually the possible labels problems
[14:27:10] <Lucas_WMDE>	 so should aliases be cleared as well? or does it not matter because namescript can just keep adding aliases?
[14:27:23] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 namescript add aliases, so no need to clear
[14:27:26] <Lucas_WMDE>	 ok
[14:27:35] <addshore>	 JeanFred[m]: awesome!
[14:27:57] <addshore>	 I think I'm in sessions for most of the rest of today :(
[14:28:10] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: right now, we *know* we have dozens of thousands items with partially incorrect descriptions
[14:29:12] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 some of them have also wrong labels but that's a way smaller problem
[14:42:36] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: I am back at my usual place, if you need me :)
[14:48:42] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: meeting you in 20 mins 
[15:03:18] <_joe_>	 RoanKattouw: ping :)
[15:04:18] <Lucas_WMDE>	 has anyone used the projector in Q3/0009? it seems to be on standby and I can’t find the remote
[15:05:53] <Lucas_WMDE>	 (btw session on Graal starts now in Q3/0009 if you’re interested – we have plenty of free space here ;)
[15:09:47] <brendan_campbell>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTIpr4Ybcg
[15:22:01] <pablohn>	 Nikerabbit, a friend of mine is looking for you. How could you get in touch? 
[15:27:34] <erikab>	 hey greg-g, if you still need to find me, I'm in Q0013
[15:28:55] <greg-g>	 erikab: I'm in Q0003 :) I'll hit you up later
[15:48:33] <Lucas_WMDE>	 Harmonia_Amanda: do you have a list of broken items that you want to run the new namescript on? if yes, in which format?
[15:49:53] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: nope, I'll do SPARQL queries to broke it in "small" lists
[15:50:04] <Lucas_WMDE>	 ok
[15:50:33] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: you can probably assume that we'll need to run the script on 90% of 'clean" names (with one and only one P1705)
[15:50:59] <Lucas_WMDE>	 I think I’ll make the script accept item IDs as command line arguments
[15:51:11] <Lucas_WMDE>	 then you can call it like `./nameScript.js Q123 Q456 Q789 Q231 ...
[15:51:26] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 ok!
[16:13:13] <Nikerabbit>	 pablohn: who where about what? I'm currently in a session
[16:28:38] <petan|lounge>	 Urbanecm: hello, you around? :))
[16:28:54] <petan|lounge>	 I would like to meet you
[16:38:14] <halfak>	 ohai
[16:38:29] <halfak>	 I'm looking for something like OO.ui.ProgressBarWidget where I can put my own tick marks on the bottom.
[16:38:41] <halfak>	 Essentially: "A, B, C, D, E"
[16:38:57] <halfak>	 Where E is the far left (empty progress) 
[16:40:30] <tonythomas>	 zeljkof: I assume you are not in the hackathon arena! 
[16:41:39] <pablohn>	 Nikerabbit, his name is sabbut, you can find him on Telegram 
[16:41:48] <Urbanecm>	 petan|lounge, yep, I'm at the venue
[16:41:56] <Urbanecm>	 petan|lounge, I'm (together with Jagro and Klára) near man toilets, between the eating room and exit from the venue
[16:42:04] <rfarrand>	 tonythomas: last time I saw, there was a picture of him on the slackline 
[16:42:25] <halfak>	 akosiaris: I've got someone who needs come kube help.  Are you around/available?
[16:43:01] <halfak>	 Anyone else interested in helping out with k8s?
[16:45:47] <multichil>	 https://data.pdok.nl/sparql#query=select+%3Fp+%3Fo%0Awhere+%7B%0A%09%3Fp+%3Fo+%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fbag.basisregistraties.overheid.nl%2Fbag%2Fid%2Fwoonplaats%2F2907%3E%0A%7D%0Alimit+10&contentTypeConstruct=text%2Fturtle&contentTypeSelect=application%2Fsparql-results%2Bjson&endpoint=%2Fsparql&requestMethod=POST&tabTitle=10+willekeurige+triples&headers=%7B%7D&outputFormat=table
[16:45:57] <pablohn>	 Nikerabbit, his name is David García (on Telegram hackathon group). But I hope he will find you :) 
[16:46:12] <multichil>	 http://tinyurl.com/y9hl3vd5
[16:54:23] <petan|lounge>	 Reedy: where does AWB store user config? To local PC only, or somewhere on wiki like Huggle?
[16:54:40] <Reedy>	 Local
[16:55:06] <petan|lounge>	 so if you are using multiple computers you always have to configure it from scratch?
[16:55:19] <Reedy>	 No.. You can save settings to an xml file and copy that across
[16:55:26] <Reedy>	 We save a few minor config things in the User Profile
[16:55:30] <Reedy>	 But that's like window size etc
[16:55:38] <petan|lounge>	 I see
[16:55:52] <Reedy>	 "profiles" are in the registry too
[16:56:12] <petan|lounge>	 yes we do that do with Huggle, but lot of user preferences that are not PC related are shared through that on-wiki pseudo .css page... which I kind of hate and like in same time lol
[16:56:34] <zeljkof>	 tonythomas: was on the slack line, now going to session
[16:57:04] <petan|lounge>	 this was invented by gurch back then, it's kinda clever as .css suffix prevent regular users from editing that page, but it looks pretty ugly
[16:57:34] <petan|lounge>	 so I was hoping there is prettier way to do that :D
[16:58:14] <Urbanecm>	 petan|lounge, do you still want to meet me? Don't know if you saw my previous message
[16:58:33] <petan|lounge>	 ok I go find you "at toilets" lol
[16:58:53] <petan|lounge>	 suppose it's at the beginning of coridor
[16:59:17] <Urbanecm>	 petan|lounge, exactly
[16:59:32] <Isarra>	 GENERAL NOTE THAT I STILL WANT MY BAG BACK.
[16:59:42] <Isarra>	 Bag, MASSIVE FEATHERED WITCH HAT, other bags...
[17:00:16] <sjoerddebruin>	 It was pictured with other lost stuff in the Telegram group. I've mentioned that pic just after the same announcement in the same group.
[17:00:29] <sjoerddebruin>	 Weird that they didn't get back to you.
[17:00:50] <greg-g>	 obvious follow-up: where would that stuff be? :)
[17:00:53] <addshore>	 Isarra: you lost your hat?
[17:01:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 Probably at the helpdesk.
[17:01:06] <Isarra>	 I lost an entire bag! Including my hat.
[17:01:10] <addshore>	 =[
[17:01:14] <addshore>	 twas a good hat
[17:01:24] <addshore>	 quibble time!
[17:01:29] <Isarra>	 Someone found it?
[17:01:49] <sjoerddebruin>	 I think so, it was pictured at 10:49
[17:02:02] <sjoerddebruin>	 With caption: "Ask helpdesk"
[17:02:49] <zeljkof>	 Slack line in the front is really fun!
[17:02:58] <addshore>	 oooh
[17:03:02] <addshore>	 how long will it be there for zeljkof ?
[17:03:25] <zeljkof>	 Until they get bored I think
[17:03:55] <zeljkof>	 There will be a show in 30 mins there
[17:04:44] <Isarra>	 Ghaaaah dammit thank you.
[17:04:58] <sjoerddebruin>	 No problem!
[17:05:23] <Isarra>	 Now I need to stop looking grumpy.
[17:05:35] <Reedy>	 Anyone play pokemon go and want to raid?
[17:06:23] <addshore>	 Reedy: no
[17:06:28] <Reedy>	 addshore: behave
[17:06:42] <Isarra>	 To everyone I have looked at in the past five minutes: I do not hate you. Sorry.
[17:06:52] <Reedy>	 I was starting to wonder
[17:08:56] <Isarra>	 Yeah, bag found, me being angry that it was apparently found all day and everyone involved assuming telegram was the best place to say something, but then not responding when quiddity asked there later, etc etc.
[17:09:01] <Isarra>	 Everything is fine. I do not hate you. 
[17:09:36] <Isarra>	 There are things I hate. They're a separate problem, and will hopefully be merged into core in the next couple of years.
[17:09:40] <Isarra>	 AND KILLED.
[17:09:44] <Isarra>	 TO DEATH.
[17:14:53] <petan|lounge>	 Reedy: can you unlock my throttled account or I just have to wait?
[17:18:03] <JeanFred[m]>	 addshore: When you have the chance, could you try the replicas ? It’s all pushed :)
[17:23:00] <quiddity>	 Everyone, please fill in a description of your work this weekend in the etherpad list. If you don't want to present, there's a section at the bottom for you! Just a sentence and any links to summarize what you're working on, so that we have a more complete overview. Thanks!
[17:23:00] <quiddity>	 https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_hackathon_showcase_2018
[17:23:47] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 lea_v_wmde______: Where are you?
[17:57:10] <awight>	 jdlrobson: Is one of these wikipedia-react-components a dropdown list?
[17:57:35] <awight>	 nvm, I'm looking at the demo now!
[18:00:34] <hoo>	 http://tinyurl.com/y9bc3clv So I heard you like federation…
[18:03:10] <anomie>	 
ACTION clicked hoo's link and was disappointed there was no Star Trek reference.

[18:04:38] <greg-g>	 quiddity: did you move my cheese (aka entry for the showcase)? :)
[18:07:29] <quiddity>	 greg-g, i shuffled 1 to the top, just because people kept leaving #1 empty!  but siebrand will re-shuffle them before the showcase itself.
[18:08:47] <awight>	 jdlrobson: great!  fyi, "npm run storybook" locally is giving me much nicer output than the demo on your site.  strange...
[18:09:38] <greg-g>	 quiddity: cool, I was just scared I lost it/had an etherpad glitch
[18:10:49] <quiddity>	 Sorry about causing a panic! <3
[18:15:07] <petan|lounge>	 anomie: quick question, what is a best approach to login to about 20 wikis simultaneously over API? doing action login locks me up even if password is correct, can I just login to one of them and reuse the token for other wikis?
[18:15:17] <petan|lounge>	 or would bot password work here?
[18:16:32] <petan|lounge>	 quiddity: wait what so the order will be different? :/ meh
[18:17:26] <bawolff_>	 petan|lounge: If you're using normal passwords, centralauth should log you in globally
[18:17:39] <bawolff_>	 I don't know how that works for the api though
[18:17:48] <petan|lounge>	 hmm
[18:18:05] <petan|lounge>	 I might try that, although it would involve quite a lot of coding so would be nice if someone who knows could tell me
[18:18:37] <bawolff_>	 petan|lounge: See also the centralauthtoken field of the api
[18:18:53] <bawolff_>	 That said, as long as you use the right password you shouldn't get locked out
[18:19:03] <bawolff_>	 rate limits for login only apply to failures
[18:19:03] <quiddity>	 petan|lounge, re: showcase, if you want to be specifically before/after someone or near the beginning/end of the queue, just add that as the final "special request" line. :)
[18:19:47] <bawolff_>	 petan|lounge: I'd be curious what issue you're getting with the login (e.g. what error) when doing many logins
[18:56:08] <petan|lounge>	 bawolff_: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195109
[18:56:59] <bawolff_>	 ok
[19:03:43] <Lucas_WMDE>	 Harmonia_Amanda: which operating system do you use again?
[19:04:03] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Ubuntu mostly
[19:04:10] <Lucas_WMDE>	 ok good
[19:16:51] <anomie>	 petan|lounge: The best way to handle it is to use OAuth.
[19:20:07] <chicocvenancio>	 Hey hackathon people. PAWS is in a working state again! hopefully it can stay that way with the fixes implemented today
[19:20:13] <Lucas_WMDE>	 \o/
[19:20:29] <Lucas_WMDE>	 Harmonia_Amanda: I think the script might be ready for a first trial run by you :) see https://github.com/lucaswerkmeister/namescript
[19:21:15] <chicocvenancio>	 if it does fail for some reason, please ping me
[19:22:35] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: so, how does it work?
[19:22:56] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: what should I download?
[19:23:13] <Lucas_WMDE>	 follow the steps in the “setup” section of the README
[19:27:44] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: for the password/username, I should keep the ''?
[19:27:51] <Lucas_WMDE>	 yes
[19:27:55] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 ok
[19:32:34] <Isarra>	 Are there any css gurus here?
[19:32:58] <Isarra>	 I need to figure out how to make text content of an element go away without making the text of the :after pseudoelement also go away.
[19:38:12] <MatmaRex>	 Isarra: 'color: transparent' might work, depending on the specific case
[19:40:00] <MatmaRex>	 you can also move it offstreen with 'position: absolute' etc.
[19:40:06] <MatmaRex>	 offscreen*
[19:40:41] <anomie>	 You could also use visibility:hidden on the element and visibility:visible on the ::after.
[19:47:38] <Isarra>	 MatmaRex: Nope, that's what they did and it's going offscreen. Can't change positon because it has :before/:after elements I do need.
[19:47:46] <Isarra>	 Hmm...
[19:48:47] <MatmaRex>	 you can probably set .foo{position: absolute; top: -1000px;} .foo:before{position: absolute; top: 1000px} ?
[19:49:25] <Isarra>	 That... might work? o__o
[19:49:50] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: it's working!!!!
[19:49:56] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 
ACTION happy

[19:49:57] <Isarra>	 anomie: Doesn't help.
[19:50:09] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Harmonia_Amanda
[19:51:27] <Lucas_WMDE>	 Harmonia_Amanda: great! :)
[20:06:22] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: if one identifier is wrong, the script stop, instead of trying the following ids
[20:06:41] <Lucas_WMDE>	 wrong in what way?
[20:07:12] <Lucas_WMDE>	 e. g. missing “script” statement? I thought in that case it should just skip that item
[20:14:24] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: if there is already an item with the same label-description
[20:14:33] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 or if the Qid is in fact a redirect
[20:14:40] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 or things like that
[20:15:25] <Harmonia_Amanda>	 Lucas_WMDE: basically, if delete worked but namescript couldn't, it stops
[20:37:29] <CKoerner_WMF>	 Just FYI in case you’re not following telegram.  Buses information: bus is planned to leave from the venue at 22.40, 23.40 and then: 2am, 4am, 6am
[21:13:46] <arturo>	 bd808: my table has more light :-P
[21:14:03] <bd808>	 I like the dark :)
[21:15:47] <arturo>	 thanks CKoerner_WMF I'm not following telegram indeed
[21:21:21] <bawolff_>	 IRC 4 evah!