[07:26:47] <tonythomas>	 zhuyifei1999_: I will just update the thingy straightaway and let you know  (python 3.5 on wmflabs)
[07:27:01] <zhuyifei1999_>	 k
[07:28:53] <Isarra>	 Where can I buy a hairbrush around here?
[07:29:04] <Isarra>	 This is, uh, important.
[07:35:09] <Ostrzyciel>	 Isarra: rossmann may have it
[07:35:34] <Ostrzyciel>	 it's near metro Dejvicka from what I see
[07:35:45] <Ostrzyciel>	 (not sure though)
[07:36:50] <Isarra>	 I couldn't find any there, but maybe I should try again while awake...
[07:37:11] <Ostrzyciel>	 hm.
[07:42:02] <tonythomas>	 zhuyifei1999_: (and others interested). toolsforge webservice still seems not to support python 3.5 (even though this was merged yesterday). I see this from the backlog.  https://dpaste.de/ZvvO - seems like uwsgi is still on 3.4.2 it seems. 
[07:42:20] <tonythomas>	 Isarra: is rossmann even open today ? 
[07:52:15] <Isarra>	 No idea.
[07:52:46] <Isarra>	 I'll probably look tomorrow.
[07:58:29] <tobias47n9e>	 Don't know what to do today? You can come to the education center to talk and still find fun things to work on
[07:59:11] <tobias47n9e>	 Other sessions now starting: Selenium tests
[08:00:26] <zeljkof>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T223624 Write the first Selenium test for a repository
[08:42:36] <tonythomas>	 help wanted! I have an upload file python program using mwclient and I get `mwclient.errors.APIError: ('abusefilter-disallowed', "'''Warning:''' This action has b... `. Actually my mwclient is authenticated to test2.wikipedia.org. Is there a way to get past this, (and I just need it for testing purposes) 
[08:47:46] <tgr_>	 tonythomas: abusefilter errors tend to be based on content, you need to look at what that specific filter bans
[08:48:46] <tgr_>	 frustrated with IRC? come to the communication tools session! https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T223418 (in 10 minutes)
[08:50:34] <yurb>	 https://xkcd.com/1782/ :)
[08:59:06] <tonythomas>	 fixed it, thanks to zhuyifei1999_ 
[09:17:02] <tonythomas>	 tgr_: I have more OAuth clients to be removed/rejected. 
[09:33:40] <tobias47n9e>	 Again a C++ question at the help desk. Anyone at the venue that can look at some code?
[09:37:06] <halfak>	 petan, ^ 
[09:38:28] <halfak>	 I just looked around for petan and I don't think he is here this morning.  tobias47n9e, I can help you (or whoever need it) find him
[09:38:34] <halfak>	 He writes a lot of C++ these days :) 
[09:41:33] <debt>	 halfak: where are you sitting?
[09:41:53] <halfak>	 I'm at table 1 in the mentoring area.  I can swing by the helpdesk. 
[09:42:32] <tobias47n9e>	 c++ help is needed at the table next to help desk
[09:42:45] <tobias47n9e>	 Seems to be resolved 
[09:56:07] <Krinkle>	 thedj: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T204577
[10:15:20] <Krinkle>	 Any 'ArticlePlaceholder' extension developers available to look into an error ?
[10:15:23] <Krinkle>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207235
[10:30:30] <debt>	 Deadline for submitting to the showcase is in 1 minute! https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_hackathon_showcase_2019
[11:02:26] <zhuyifei1999_>	 Reedy: https://zh.wikivoyage.beta.wmflabs.org/zh-cn/%E6%B5%8B%E8%AF%95 https://zh.wikivoyage.beta.wmflabs.org/zh-hans/%E6%B5%8B%E8%AF%95
[11:10:02] <Danny_B>	 anybody seen daniel kinzler?
[11:10:53] <Reedy>	 Ever?
[11:27:49] <greg-g>	 a few times
[11:29:06] <Lucas_WMDE>	 my hackathon project was a new feature for Toolforge devs – which mailing list should I announce that on, cloud or cloud-announce? any thoughts?
[11:29:30] <Lucas_WMDE>	 (it’s already live, so I’d send the email right around the showcase)
[11:29:33] <Reedy>	 I think probably just cloud
[11:29:40] <Lucas_WMDE>	 ok thanks
[11:32:37] <debt>	 I just sent Daniel K a message, Danny_B :)
[11:39:23] <Danny_B>	 debt: thanks, already solved in the meantime
[11:45:19] <tgr_>	 tonythomas: I'm around if you still need the OAuth apps fixed
[11:45:39] <tonythomas>	 tgr_: I will give you the ids soon. Thank you! 
[11:53:31] <eprodromou>	 Hello all
[11:53:42] <eprodromou>	 Can anyone help me with a Wikidata question?
[11:54:31] <eprodromou>	 I'd like to have method to take a label, language pair like "George Washington", "en"
[11:55:04] <eprodromou>	 ...and get the identifier for the entity, "Q23"
[11:55:41] <eprodromou>	 This seems like a normal thing to do but I can't figure out how to do it.
[11:55:50] <eprodromou>	 Oh, I'm using wikidata-sdk and wikidata-edit
[11:56:02] <pintoch>	 eprodromou: the problem is that this is ambiguous in general: many items might have the same label in a given language
[11:56:11] <eprodromou>	 Ah
[11:56:21] <eprodromou>	 Let's change that to
[11:56:37] <eprodromou>	 An array of matching identifiers, ["Q23", ...]
[11:56:49] <pintoch>	 you can use the reconciliation interface for that, it lets you narrow down by type
[11:57:04] <eprodromou>	 reconciliation interface?
[11:57:17] <pintoch>	 it is described here: https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/wiki/Reconciliation-Service-API
[11:57:21] <pintoch>	 let me give you an example
[11:58:57] <eprodromou>	 OK, this is great
[11:58:58] <pintoch>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/openrefine-wikidata/en/api?query={%22query%22:%22George%20Washington%22,%22type%22:%22Q5%22}
[11:59:35] <pintoch>	 if you do not want any filtering by type, or other properties, you can use Wikidata's search APIs directly
[11:59:48] <pintoch>	 (it is going to be quicker)
[12:00:21] <eprodromou>	 Oh, good, how would that work?
[12:01:23] <pintoch>	 if you want the same results as Wikidata's search page: https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=wbsearchentities
[12:02:18] <pintoch>	 ah sorry no, this is not Wikidata's search page, this is the suggestion box
[12:02:31] <pintoch>	 Wikidata's search page results are given by https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=query%2Bsearch
[12:03:27] <pintoch>	 in general these two search endpoints will give you different results
[12:04:35] <eprodromou>	 No, that first one gives me what I want
[12:04:37] <eprodromou>	 https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbsearchentities&language=en&search=czech+national+library+of+technology
[12:05:46] <pintoch>	 great!
[12:15:14] <waldir>	 Hey bd808, chicocvenancio and zhuyifei1999_ -- I've collected some instructions to automatically update a toolforge project based on a github repo whenever the repo is pushed to
[12:15:20] <waldir>	 Right now they're here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Waldir/Toolforge#Auto-update_Toolforge_from_GitHub
[12:15:46] <waldir>	 Can you take a quick look and let me know if they look OK to add to the documentation at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge#Setting_up_code_review_and_version_control ?
[12:18:33] <pintoch>	 Lydia_WMDE: I have started some documentation for developers for EditGroups at https://editgroups.readthedocs.io/en/latest/, I would need your help to add the webhooks to the GitHub repo for it to be updated automatically
[12:19:00] <bd808>	 waldir: looking...
[12:19:08] <Lydia_WMDE>	 pintoch: ok just let me know what needs to be done
[12:19:42] <pintoch>	 if you go to https://readthedocs.org/projects/editgroups/ you should be able to add the webhooks from there I believe
[12:20:01] <pintoch>	 (after logging in via GitHub)
[12:20:16] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok let me see
[12:21:29] <zhuyifei1999_>	 waldir: well, that only works if the tool is a lighttpd-based webservice that runs php
[12:21:48] <pintoch>	 (if it does not work we can resort to creating them manually from GitHub as explained in https://docs.readthedocs.io/en/stable/webhooks.html)
[12:22:21] <waldir>	 isn't that the default, zhuyifei1999_ ? I assumed one would have to deliberately change that to have a different setup
[12:22:32] <zhuyifei1999_>	 you can show the instructions, but I don't think it's 'generic'
[12:23:32] <waldir>	 zhuyifei1999_: what should I add to make them sufficiently generic?
[12:24:27] <bd808>	 waldir: the "echo ..." isn't redirected to a file, but otherwise I think it should work.
[12:24:54] <zhuyifei1999_>	 well, it is the default, a lot of people use python+uwsgi / node / etc.
[12:24:59] <Lydia_WMDE>	 @pintoch 
[12:25:12] <Lydia_WMDE>	 pintoch: I'm not seeing anything that would let me set up a webhook
[12:25:30] <waldir>	 bd808: Oh I meant to remove that, it's from a previous version of the steps (I was testing out and loading the php page in my browser)
[12:25:38] <waldir>	 (remove the echo, I mean)
[12:25:45] <zhuyifei1999_>	 I think it's fine as long as it's explicitly stated that it only works under this circumstance
[12:25:58] <bd808>	 waldir: maybe rather than putting the instructions into the main Help page, make a sub page for it and link from the git section and also from https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/How_to ?
[12:26:12] <waldir>	 Ah nevermind, I misunderstood you. Yes, will fix
[12:26:28] <bd808>	 We can work on refining things a bit too. It doesn't have to be perfect on the first edit ;)
[12:26:35] <waldir>	 bd808: Sounds good, will do 👍
[12:26:39] <pintoch>	 Lydia_WMDE: okay, then can you go to https://github.com/Wikidata/editgroups/settings/hooks and create it from there? I will try to give you the settings
[12:26:45] <waldir>	 Thanks for the review guys :)
[12:26:47] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok
[12:27:04] <Lydia_WMDE>	 pintoch: if this is a matter of missing rights on your side btw we can also fix that
[12:27:28] <Lydia_WMDE>	 either way is fine
[12:27:58] <pintoch>	 Lydia_WMDE: yes it is, but I am not sure there is a way for you to give me the rights without me being an admin on every single Wikidata project… :-/ we struggled with that when we transferred the project to the org already ^^
[12:28:32] <Lydia_WMDE>	 ok but tbh if that's what it takes...
[12:28:41] <pintoch>	 I'll send you the hook details by PM
[12:28:45] <Lydia_WMDE>	 oh well let's try setting it up and if that doesn't work...
[12:28:48] <Lydia_WMDE>	 thx
[12:38:31] <zhuyifei1999_>	 waldir: thanks for writing it ;)
[12:39:32] <waldir>	 I spent a whole evening figuring it all out, I'd better make something useful out of it :)
[12:51:40] <rxy_PRG>	 [REMINDER] Hackathon closing and showcase at Balling Hall   15:00 -
[13:13:58] <Krinkle>	 https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/Wikimedia_hackathon_showcase_2019
[13:37:44] <hare>	 TIL how to pronounce “Kattouw”
[13:38:01] <hare>	 I mean I only knew him for like a decade :)
[13:41:09] <bawolff_>	 Lol
[14:16:27] <zhuyifei1999_>	 halfak: wanna train the chinese set?
[14:16:43] <halfak>	 zhuyifei1999_, yeah, man.  We can experiment with it :) 
[14:21:16] <rxy_PRG>	 Thanks for everyone!
[16:55:35] <tramm>	 yurb: but but but
[16:55:49] <tramm>	 https://github.com/mediawiki-utilities/python-mediawiki-utilities is not even listed at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_code#Python
[16:56:52] <tramm>	 anyone knows which is preferred mediawiki api wrapper for python that is lightweight etc?
[17:04:04] <tramm>	 and since i'm already asking, has anyone idea is there a good example of putting some 300 random wikipedia articles in let's say 10 heuristic categories using some simple clustering algorithm?
[18:13:34] <tramm>	 ok, yurb probably meant this: https://github.com/mediawiki-utilities/python-mwapi
[18:18:04] <Lucas_WMDE>	 tramm: I prefer python-mwapi, but I don’t know if that’s a wide-spread opinion ^^
[18:18:18] <Lucas_WMDE>	 it’s just the one used in the documentation that got me started
[18:18:35] <Lucas_WMDE>	 I think it’s the most straightforward one compared to the others – .get(), .post(), tada
[18:18:54] <Lucas_WMDE>	 but I haven’t actually used the others, so I’m only judging those by their READMEs
[18:19:49] <Lucas_WMDE>	 a small set of unit tests for it could be a nice small final-evening hackathon project ;)
[18:39:53] <tramm>	 Lucas_WMDE: thanks!