[05:00:48] [telegram] I’ll be down in the hotel lobby in a few. [06:08:26] [telegram] Allowed statement, it please qualify it. So many hotel lobbies. I’m in the lobby of the Story hotel now. Leaving for Aula Magna. (re @Cyberpower678: I’ll be down in the hotel lobby in a few.) [06:18:00] [telegram] I already left on the red line. At the University now. (re @siebrand: Allowed statement, it please qualify it. So many hotel lobbies. I’m in the lobby of the Story hotel now. Leaving for Aula Magna.) [06:20:08] [telegram] Allowed statement, but please qualify it. So many hotel lobbies. I’m in the lobby of the Story hotel now. Leaving for Aula Magna. (re @Cyberpower678: I’ll be down in the hotel lobby in a few.) [06:35:27] [telegram] The hackathon will be opening at 9:30 sharp. Please make sure you have enough time to register and enter the Aula Magna before that time. See you soon! [06:38:32] [telegram] For anyone taking the red line from comfort hotel... T-centralen is a good 10 mins to walk from west to east and the red line is at the east side of this station ;) [07:19:45] [telegram] Breakfast and metro are quite crowded, might explain the amount of people at the venue yet. [07:22:54] [telegram] I am looking for Amir S [07:22:57] [telegram] Is he here? [07:28:23] [telegram] just getting there [07:28:59] [telegram] Th hacking opening is about to start! Please make your way into the Alua Magna auditorium [07:36:00] [telegram] It has started!: [07:36:13] [telegram] [07:36:24] [telegram] Anyone know the WiFi password? (Probably in the registration packet?) [07:36:32] [telegram] [07:36:35] [telegram] Stockholm2019 [07:36:35] [telegram] Missing the action!! [07:36:41] [telegram] Stockholm2109 (re @bd808: Anyone know the WiFi password? (Probably in the registration packet?)) [07:36:49] [telegram] Stockholm2019 (re @bd808: Anyone know the WiFi password? (Probably in the registration packet?)) [07:37:01] [telegram] Thanks! [07:37:14] [telegram] See the pinned message in @wmhack19stockholm (re @bd808: Anyone know the WiFi password? (Probably in the registration packet?)) [07:37:44] [telegram] Maybe we can pin it here too? [07:37:47] [telegram] The hacking opening is about to start! Please make your way into the Alua Magna auditorium [07:37:51] [telegram] @bd808 I haven't seen you yet. Are you in the auditorium? [07:38:07] [telegram] Its on the back of the badges. (re @urbanecm: Maybe we can pin it here too?) [07:38:25] [telegram] @Cyberpower678 yup. In the front row. [07:38:37] [telegram] Familiarize yourself with the hackathon spaces. The layout is a bit complex, but it was done to not have a participant limit. [07:38:46] [telegram] Red shirt? (re @bd808: @Cyberpower678 yup. In the front row.) [07:39:58] [telegram] Yea. I see you. I'm up to the right with a MacBook. [07:40:00] [telegram] @Cyberpower678 yes. Save the chubby unicorns shirt. :) [07:40:44] [telegram] Hacking table directory is at https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Hackathon/TableDirectory [07:41:54] [telegram] (Again, please do note that our ancient IRC peasants don’t see images) [07:42:24] [telegram] MUFFINS [07:42:34] [telegram] 😋 [07:43:32] [telegram] Hackathon spaces are 15, 16 and Allhuset (A). Breakout rooms are 11, 12, 13 and upstairs in Allhuset: [07:44:16] [telegram] Night hacking room is at the clarion hotel from Wednesday to Saturday. [07:44:33] [telegram] Tonight at 17:30 there is pizza served in the hacking spaces [07:44:42] [telegram] I can try to setup the media server option on the bridge bot later today [07:45:02] [telegram] Cool, you have a project for today! [07:46:00] [telegram] I could use some volunteers for my project at Table 30. Let me know if you're interested. :D [07:49:24] [telegram] At 11:00 there is an orientation session for newcomers and mentors in room 15/16 on the map. [07:49:59] [telegram] At 11:30 there is a mentor and newcomer matching session. [07:50:26] [telegram] At 12:30 there is a project matching session in the same room if you are looking for a project [07:52:20] :-D [07:53:03] bd808, why wm-bridgebot says "unknown" for the channel announcements? Can it say something like "announcement" instead? [07:53:16] [telegram] [07:53:38] and maybe we can also exclude "photo only" messages, or maybe a (photo) placeholder [07:53:48] (a link to the image would be better, but i know it can be hard to do :)) [07:54:00] Hello hackers [07:54:06] hello pharos [07:55:26] [telegram] Hello all [07:56:11] how do you add a phabricator task so that it appears here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/3922/ [07:56:39] audiodude, you need to add wikimania-hackathon-2019 tag to that task [07:57:01] Wanted to share this idea I'm hoping to develop more today and tomorrow: https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikispore [07:57:22] [telegram] Urbanecm: it is a quirk of relaying from a ‘channel’ vs a ‘chat’. Might be something I can configure. [07:57:44] Urbanecm: thanks [07:57:50] cool, thanks bd808 [07:57:59] happy to help, audiodude [07:59:26] Hello All. Please do we have anyone from the translation team here ? [07:59:52] Most probably Eugene233 [07:59:57] the best would be to ask your question :) [08:00:05] someone will answer it, hopefully [08:01:52] [telegram] Translation tool ? or translations of the software ? [08:03:09] [telegram] Wikimania Hackathon University WiFi info. SSID: Wikimania2019 Pass: Stockholm2019 [08:03:18] [telegram] thanks @siebrand [08:04:37] [telegram] @siebrand if you edit the message and make it shorter, the important stuff will be visible in the pinned measage, without having to click and open it ;) [08:04:48] [telegram] @siebrand if you edit the message and make it shorter, the important stuff will be visible in the pinned message, without having to click and open it ;) [08:05:09] [telegram] WiFi: Wikimania2019 / Stockholm2019 [08:05:15] [telegram] There (re @djhartman: @siebrand if you edit the message and make it shorter, the important stuff will be visible in the pinned message, without having to click and open it ;)) [08:05:38] [telegram] WiFi: Wikimania2019 / Stockholm2019 [08:05:48] [telegram] (re @siebrand: There) [08:06:28] [telegram] Sticker pack downloadable by long pressing this sticker btw ;) [08:06:53] [telegram] Nothig big but the SSID has a space between Wikimania and 2019 (re @siebrand: There) [08:06:54] [telegram] (re @djhartman: Sticker pack downloadable by long pressing this sticker btw ;)) [08:07:12] [telegram] Good point ! (re @Cyberpower678: Nothig big but the SSID has a space between Wikimania and 2019) [08:07:25] [telegram] (re @djhartman: ) [08:07:41] [telegram] Mandatory unicorn sticker (re @siebrand: ) [08:07:52] [telegram] [08:08:37] [telegram] Hackathon group photo right after the opening session. [08:08:38] [telegram] [08:09:23] [telegram] Etherpad for open mic? [08:09:44] Urbanecm: We need translation enabled for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/3981/ on TranslateWiki [08:10:37] Eugene233, there is help on https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Setup_of_a_new_project [08:11:57] Urbanecm: Thanks [08:12:59] happy to help! [08:13:22] [telegram] https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wikimaniahack2019opening (re @Maarten: Etherpad for open mic?) [08:13:40] [telegram] if you’re speaking at the open mic, feel free to correct our mistakes :) [08:15:34] [telegram] It’s translatewiki.net (or twn if you want to save time). Please don’t use the writing you used. (re @wmtelegram_bot: [irc] Urbanecm: We need translation enabled for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/3981/ on TranslateWiki) [08:20:15] [telegram] Not hackathon post: Any competitive badminton players around? Would be fun to book a court and play for a bit in the evenings if so. [08:22:02] [telegram] @Ladsgroup Is there a simple way how to get "usages of certain CSS class/ID", to be sure I don't break anything when moving stuff from Common.css to Templatestyles? [08:22:33] [telegram] I do insource search (re @urbanecm: @Ladsgroup Is there a simple way how to get "usages of certain CSS class/ID", to be sure I don't break anything when moving stuff from Common.css to Templatestyles?) [08:23:03] [telegram] ^ and maybe mwgrep for stuff that might be included across wikis [08:30:00] [telegram] WiFi: Wikimania 2019 / Stockholm2019 [08:30:26] [telegram] Hm, I can't pin that though [08:30:34] [telegram] only admins can [08:30:43] [telegram] but something like that is already pinned? [08:30:44] [telegram] There's also eduroam here it seems [08:38:55] [telegram] [08:39:18] [telegram] Finally, some entertainment [08:42:16] [telegram] At 12:00 there is a project matching session in the same room if you are looking for a project [08:45:03] [telegram] At 11:00 there is an orientation session for newcomers and mentors in Allhuset upstairs [08:45:13] [telegram] At 11:30 there is a mentor and newcomer matching session also in Allhuset upstairs [08:53:51] want to help to create a tool to visualise wikipedia article contest/editathon results in an appealing way: https://github.com/wikimediaeesti/vagavesi and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230464 [09:04:17] [telegram] @Ladsgroup hey, when/where is CSS cleanup happening? Am looking to help out [09:05:43] [telegram] We're set up at the documentation corner! Come to help with doc & get a shiny badge 🌺📍 Rotunda (hacking space 2) in Aula Magna 📋 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227581: [09:17:56] Research is at table 27, Hacking Space 1. If you want to talk with us about machine learning, data analysis, image classification, knowledge gaps, disinformation/misinformation, recommender systems, or any othe research related topic, drop by. :) [09:25:12] [telegram] I'm pretty sure you're in Hacking Space 2 [09:25:27] [telegram] (or there is a second research table here as well) [09:27:42] [telegram] Table 27 is in Hacking Space 2 per https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Hackathon/TableDirectory [09:32:17] [telegram] Please come to me and share your thoughts about Wikipedia, Wikimedia Movement and related stuff. I'll record it for the Wikipedia podcast https://wikijabber.org [09:32:18] [telegram] Find me at Juristernas hus below room Williams (16) in the bar area [09:32:19] [telegram] Everyone is welcome. Don't hesitate to talk to me. [09:36:05] [telegram] When is the newcomers session? [09:37:10] [telegram] Is it possible to get the big room (space #2?) cooled a bit? It's getting quite warm. [09:37:35] [telegram] Newcomer orientation presentation just finished. Project/mentor matching now happening in Breakout Room at Juristernas Hus [09:37:37] [telegram] Newcomers sessions will be on the breakthrough room (upstairs) on the Hacking Space 1 (re @Magioladitis: When is the newcomers session?) [09:42:31] [telegram] All newcomers come back in the same room as newcomer orientation (breakout room 1) to participate in the project and the mentor matching ceremony :) [09:43:05] [telegram] Where are Scholia people? [09:48:15] [telegram] [09:48:30] [telegram] Come decorate your name badges at the hackathon help desk in hacking space 1! [09:48:48] [telegram] You have a team of folks waiting here to help you too! [09:51:58] [telegram] Hmm "Rotunda" building (space 2), and Magna/Polstjarnan are not on the map? [09:52:55] [telegram] Starting at 12:00: Project matching session in Juristernas Hus breakout room 1: Wallenbergssalen [09:53:17] [telegram] [09:54:07] [telegram] All mentors and newcomers come to the Breakout Room 1 for project and mentor matching ceremony. Mentors will start presenting their posters in ~5 minutes. [09:54:53] [telegram] Also aula and rotunda building are actually connected. [09:55:34] [telegram] If you are interested in the Wikidocumentaries project, join our Telegram channel @wikidocshack [09:56:12] [telegram] I’m not at my tables yet if some one is wondering. Will be there in about 20 minutes. [09:57:27] [telegram] Hacking Space 1, is that room named "Montalcini" on the map? Room "Wallenbergssalen" is also missing from the map it seems. [09:58:05] [telegram] The mentor matching session is looking for more mentors! Please join in hacking space 1 upstairs if you can help! [09:58:20] [telegram] Wallenbergssalen is upstairs in Juristernas hus [09:58:36] [telegram] Can someone in hacking space two ask Siebrand to look at his phone ! :) [09:58:53] [telegram] There's a ticket let me find it (re @Alex: @Ladsgroup hey, when/where is CSS cleanup happening? Am looking to help out) [09:59:02] [telegram] Done (re @RachelFarrand: Can someone in hacking space two ask Siebrand to look at his phone ! :)) [09:59:23] [telegram] Please edit the navigation page for clarity around names! Each room has about 3 names [09:59:51] [telegram] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228604 (re @Alex: @Ladsgroup hey, when/where is CSS cleanup happening? Am looking to help out) [10:00:09] [telegram] Someone should really take the wikimania map and turn it into a hackathon map ;) (re @TimoTijhof: Hacking Space 1, is that room named "Montalcini" on the map? Room "Wallenbergssalen" is also missing from the map it seems.) [10:00:16] How do we give push access to L10n-bot to a project on Phabricator ? [10:00:18] [telegram] @TimoTijhof I need to show you some graphs, where can I find you? [10:00:49] [telegram] For those interested in using PAWS as a notebook for Wikidata queries, here are the examples I showed today in the GLAM rotunda: [10:00:50] [telegram] https://paws-public.wmflabs.org/paws-public/User:Fuzheado/Met%20Museum%20OA%20report.ipynb [10:00:52] [telegram] https://paws.wmflabs.org/paws/user/Fuzheado/notebooks/CMA%20OA%20results.ipynb [10:00:53] [telegram] These can be reused by anyone with a PAWS account [10:04:00] [telegram] @Ladsgroup Magna, outside auditorium, regitration area [10:04:24] [telegram] Is "Wallenbergssalen" the same as "Room Williams"? [10:04:35] [telegram] Coming (re @TimoTijhof: @Ladsgroup Magna, outside auditorium, regitration area) [10:05:00] [telegram] For those interested in using PAWS as a notebook for Wikidata queries, here are the examples I showed today in the GLAM rotunda: [10:05:01] [telegram] https://paws-public.wmflabs.org/paws-public/User:Fuzheado/Met%20Museum%20OA%20report.ipynb [10:05:02] [telegram] https://paws-public.wmflabs.org/paws-public/User:Fuzheado/Met%20Museum%20OA%20report.ipynb [10:05:04] [telegram] These can be reused by anyone with a PAWS account [10:05:24] [telegram] HI, thanks Andrew [10:06:22] [telegram] For those interested in using PAWS as a notebook for Wikidata queries, here are the examples I showed today in the GLAM rotunda: [10:06:23] [telegram] https://paws-public.wmflabs.org/paws-public/User:Fuzheado/Met%20Museum%20OA%20report.ipynb [10:06:24] [telegram] https://paws-public.wmflabs.org/paws-public/User:Fuzheado/Met%20Museum%20OA%20report.ipynb [10:06:25] [telegram] These can be reused by anyone with a PAWS account: http://paws.wmflabs.org [10:07:07] [telegram] Is someone sees Carolyn from WMF design a newcomer is asking for her in the mentor matching session in hacking space 1 upstairs. Srishti can connect the two! [10:09:32] [telegram] If you are interested in the Wikidocumentaries project, join our Telegram channel @wikidocshack [10:09:33] [telegram] http://wikidocumentaries-demo.wmflabs.org/ [10:10:36] [telegram] Is there a gadget which could serve as a good example on OOjs usage? [10:12:45] [telegram] The only place where drinks (coffee, water, etc) are served is going to be the main building where we had the opening (Alua Magna). Tap water is very drinkable, tasty and safe here so any sink works and the water bottles from registration will help you! [10:18:44] [telegram] Make sure you rinse the water bottles prior to first use, especially with hot beverages. You may otherwise find a strong metallic taste in your beverage. [10:19:06] [telegram] Greetings! If you are a SysAdmin, SRE, etc. at an non-profit, I would like to talk to you. Please send me a message. [10:29:36] [telegram] Pizza for hackathon attendees will be delivered to the kitchen/lounge area of hacking space 1 at 17:15. It’s not meant to be dinner and is just a snack. For the first 30 minutes we limit people to one slice each. As far as I understand there are no gluten free options. I’ll let you know if I hear any additional updates from the organizers. [10:29:59] [telegram] Sorry! Was just editing that. Actually yes there are gluten free pizzas. [10:32:52] [telegram] They are quite complicated imo, but the Wikidata merge gadget is written in it (re @Abbe98: Is there a gadget which could serve as a good example on OOjs usage?) [10:41:53] [telegram] Thanks! I will have a look. (re @sjoerddebruin: They are quite complicated imo, but the Wikidata merge gadget is written in it) [10:41:58] [telegram] @Ladsgroup is there going to be like a group of people working on it together in person? [10:42:32] [telegram] Sorta, I'm at table 6 in the hacking space, Hakan is sitting next to me and doing trwiki (re @Alex: @Ladsgroup is there going to be like a group of people working on it together in person?) [10:45:34] [telegram] @TimoTijhof One more RL module to drop in client: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/522613 [10:47:02] [telegram] @RachelFarrand hi, do you know if there's some AC available in rotunda? [10:47:20] [telegram] Air quality is quite decreasing yes [10:47:40] [telegram] It's really warm in here [10:49:08] [telegram] If you bring your poster over to the hackathon helpdesk @Jan_ainali from the Knowledge Savers team will soon be over to digitize them. [10:54:43] [telegram] Everyone! Tell your friends and remember that lunch is ONLY served for one hour 13:00-14:00 in the Alua Mangna building. If you need to eat please done miss it. Starting soon! [10:57:16] [telegram] Lunch is ONLY served for one hour 13:00-14:00 in the Alua Mangna building. If you need to eat please done miss it. Starting very soon! [10:59:53] [telegram] Hello! any tips on what subway to take to go to the Parliament? [11:04:42] [telegram] (re @Cachosagan: Hello! any tips on what subway to take to go to the Parliament?)google maps (which I trust in Stockholm) says:: [11:05:20] [telegram] Tack! (re @tonythomas01: ) [11:06:33] [telegram] Varsågod 👍 [11:41:55] [telegram] You're a template editor on wikis? Come and talk to my colleagues in front of Rotunda and participate to our user research interviews [11:42:09] [telegram] [11:48:12] Hello world [11:48:56] [telegram] hello, Urjanhai [11:49:06] [telegram] Hello Martin [11:49:42] [telegram] Hello Urjanhai [11:53:53] [telegram] Sessions starting at 14:00: [11:53:54] [telegram] * Basic introduction to Phabricator, in Curie [11:53:55] [telegram] * Growth experiments and initiatives around new editors gathering, in Polstjärnan [11:53:56] [telegram] * Introduction to Wikimedia Cloud Services, in Gbowee [11:54:03] [telegram] There are 5 minutes left for lunch. [11:55:44] [telegram] The session from the WMF Growth Team about hackathon ideas to help new editors is in five minutes on the 7th floor of Aula Magna! [12:05:03] [telegram] Hey there (re @wmtelegram_bot: [irc] Hello world) [12:11:03] [telegram] The temperature in the rotounda hacker room is getting quite high, is there a way to get some fresh air ? [12:12:34] [telegram] Solving this has priority but we cannot influence it directly ourselves. Please be patient or move out of the room. We are doing what we can at the moment. (re @PierreSelim: The temperature in the rotounda hacker room is getting quite high, is there a way to get some fresh air ?) [12:14:11] [telegram] Thanks @siebrand [12:21:22] [telegram] An off-serious-topic question:Who could help with fixing the table tennis net (it's behind Juristernas Hus)? I have rackets with me so we could play ping pong in between hacking...: [12:32:11] [telegram] Oooo! Great idea! What do you need to fix it? [12:32:37] [telegram] There is now photos of all the posters, ready to be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. However, not all posters have names, and I don't know what license to apply. Could everyone that wants them uploaded reply to me (preferably privately not to spam the channel) with some recognizable keyword from the poster, your preferred license and how you would like to be credited? [12:35:20] [telegram] There's a clamp missing. So we need a bolt and nut I guess... or some very creative DIY magic... (re @RachelFarrand: Oooo! Great idea! What do you need to fix it?) [12:40:46] [telegram] Session "TechCom office hours Q&A" will start in 20 minutes (Aula Magna building, Floor 7, Polstjärnan room). [12:40:47] [telegram] Notes: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wm2019-techcom [12:40:48] [telegram] Schedule: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2019:Hackathon/program#Wednesday,_August_14th [12:41:09] [telegram] Nevermind, someone else already uploaded the posters :) (re @Jan_ainali: There is now photos of all the posters, ready to be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. However, not all posters have names, and I don't know what license to apply. Could everyone that wants them uploaded reply to me (preferably privately not to spam the channel) with some recognizable keyword from the poster, your preferred license and how you would like to be [12:46:31] [telegram] There are some open tables ( previously reserved) in hacking space one in case anyone is looking for quiet or cooler air. The venue just discovered that the vents were closed by mistake in hacking space two so the room should circulate air a bit more starting now / be better within the hour. [12:46:47] [telegram] Also, project posters have been hung on the wall in hacking space ☝️ [12:46:52] [telegram] Hacking space 1 [12:48:25] [telegram] that… doesn’t solve the licensing question, does it? (re @Jan_ainali: Nevermind, someone else already uploaded the posters :)) [12:48:40] [telegram] I suppose it makes it somebody else’s problem [12:49:40] [telegram] The venue just discovered that the vents were closed by mistake in hacking space 2 so the room should circulate air a bit more starting now / be better within the hour. [12:51:04] [telegram] @AndraWaagmeester : the 16:00 walk is today? I think I saw it somewhere but couldn’t find the text any more. I would like to put it in the announce channel. [12:51:36] [telegram] (Opening the vents is so much better than buying fans, which we considered before the venue realised the problem is fixable.) [12:53:41] [telegram] Forwarded from AndraWaagmeester: In case someone is interesting learning about iNaturalist-Wiki cross-over, I am going to walk around the campus to observe local wildlife, anyone is welcome to join: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230474 [12:54:12] [telegram] @siebrand 👆 [12:56:18] [telegram] At 17:00 an iNaturalist walk of 30 minutes starts in front of the main entrance of the aula magna. [12:56:19] [telegram] iNaturalist is a citizen science project that annotates wildlife observations. In the Wikiproject iNaturalist, we levarage the many superb observation made by the iNaturalist community that are using Wikimedia compatible licenses. [12:56:36] [telegram] Danl (re @Ciell: In case someone is interesting learning about iNaturalist-Wiki cross-over, I am going to walk around the campus to observe local wildlife, anyone is welcome to join: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230474) [12:56:39] [telegram] Dank (re @Ciell: In case someone is interesting learning about iNaturalist-Wiki cross-over, I am going to walk around the campus to observe local wildlife, anyone is welcome to join: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230474) [12:56:42] [telegram] Hello all, I'm looking for someone who could film the Lua workshop that will take place today from 16:00 to 17:30. Anyone could help? [12:57:21] [telegram] Sessions starting at 15.00: [12:57:21] [telegram] * Introduction to cross-lingual word-embeddings, in Williams [12:57:23] [telegram] * Mediawiki:Common.css clean up party, in Curie [12:57:24] [telegram] * TechCom RFC office hours (Q&A), in Polstjärnan [12:57:25] [telegram] * Wikimedia APIs workshop (beginner-level), in Gbowee [12:59:10] [telegram] Wikimedia APIs workshop will start soon (~5 minutes) in breakout room 4 / Kungstenen. [12:59:44] [telegram] Maybe @Jan_ainali ? [13:00:07] [telegram] I can help! [13:02:42] * Introduction to cross-lingual word-embeddings, in Williams -> Breakout room 1 [13:04:54] [telegram] About the Lua workshop: it's a great chance to finally get hands into this very useful language to develop smart templates on wikis. [13:04:55] [telegram] 🕓 Today at 16:00 [13:04:56] [telegram] 📍 Room Bergsmannen / Curie (floor 7 above the regdesk) [13:09:04] [telegram] Any live stream of hackathon or any live participation is accepted ? [13:17:34] [telegram] Luxemburgish Wikipedia user Robby is trying to figure out why citoid is not working on lb.wp. If you can help figure that out, or know why can, please let me know, so I can let him know. [13:26:46] [telegram] @sieb [13:26:52] [telegram] @siebrand https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid/Enabling_Citoid_on_your_wiki [13:27:36] [telegram] I'm at the helpdesk table in space 1 now, if he needs more help. [13:28:44] [telegram] Some sessions, like the Lua workshop, are live-streamed. [13:28:45] [telegram] As for a very remote-friendly task, I'd suggest the documentation translation sprint :) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T227581 (re @Santosh: Any live stream of hackathon or any live participation is accepted ?) [13:31:27] I am going to restart wm-bridgebot to add "media server" support which should in theory allow folks on the IRC side to see links to images posted on Telegram. [13:31:31] * bd808 crosses fingers [13:31:50] bd808: cool ! [13:34:37] [telegram] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot//54945915/file_56.jpg [13:34:47] works ;) [13:34:49] [telegram] Cool. I sent him there anyway. He is not on telegram yet (asked him to install it), but will message him in another way (re @djhartman: I'm at the helpdesk table in space 1 now, if he needs more help.) [13:35:13] [telegram] Awesome! (re @wmtelegram_bot: [irc] I am going to restart wm-bridgebot to add "media server" support which should in theory allow folks on the IRC side to see links to images posted on Telegram.) [13:35:43] [telegram] Coffee and cookie break happening now in Alua Magna! [13:36:48] [telegram] @djhartman he is coming your way [13:49:47] Does this telegram bot speak both ways? Can anybody on Telegram hear me? [13:50:10] [telegram] I hear you [13:50:12] [telegram] Yes (re @wmtelegram_bot: [irc] Does this telegram bot speak both ways? Can anybody on Telegram hear me?) [13:51:32] I assume Telegram is some kind of open source Slack? [13:51:41] [telegram] Lua workshop starting in 10min in room Bergsmannen / Curie (Floor 7 above the regdesk) and it will be live-streamed! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxN3bqwT-rs [13:51:55] Lol no Telegram is Whatsapp that's not owned by Facebook [13:52:17] [telegram] Starting at 16.00: Lua workshop, in Curie [13:52:26] dagelf: ok thanks for the info [13:53:35] [telegram] wouldn't Signal be the Whatsapp that's not owned by Facebook, given that it's the same uderlying technology, whereas Telegram uses something non-open? [13:53:47] And it's also a lot more programmable - So the result is that almost everybody has it on their phone. So there's a lot more chatter... and spam. But it has slightly better privacy features. Only slightly though. [13:54:24] "almost everybody" as in, no I've never heard of this and I don't know anyone who uses it. But sure :) [13:54:31] Signal advertises itself as secure... is it open too? Telegram and Whatsapp doesnt. Neither are open either. [13:55:07] [telegram] Signal is indeed open, yes; Whatsapp uses the Signal protocol, so it should inherit it's security [13:55:18] Okay 80% of my contacts to be exact... up from 20% a year ago. Also your phone doesn't need to be on for you to use the web interface. [13:55:47] [telegram] out of the three, Telegram has by far the most usable desktop application [13:55:58] does it work on ChromeOS? [13:56:08] Yes anywhere there's a browser [13:56:51] how do I connect to this room from Telegram? [13:57:17] You click on an invitation link [13:57:46] https://web.telegram.org/ sign up here [13:59:23] https://t.me/wmhack19stockholm is the link for the channel [14:01:03] Oh no that's not it... :-D That's whats called a broadcast only channel [14:01:42] I was going to say [14:01:53] there's no input box to type a message [14:02:07] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @Lucas_WMDE & @tgr - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [14:06:51] https://t.me/wmhack [14:07:15] Found here: https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=telegram [14:08:11] okay switching modes to Telegram, I'm Travis B there [14:12:48] but cool kids use matrix.org via riot.im nowadays, which is open and decentralised and open and https://matrix.to/#/#wmhack:matrix.org [14:33:08] [telegram] While true in essence, note that WhatsApp recently presented research about pushing a filter to phones, which will allow the phone to duplicate select traffic to their servers unencrypted, for purposes like surveillance. (re @korenchkin: Signal is indeed open, yes; Whatsapp uses the Signal protocol, so it should inherit it's security) [14:33:50] [telegram] Ah, good point, I forgot about that [14:37:40] Slides from the Cloud Services talk are now on Commons (mostly useful for link-clicking purposes): https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Introduction_to_Wikimedia_Cloud_Services_-_Wikimania_Hackathon_2019_Stockholm_Sweden.pdf [14:38:48] [telegram] thanks andrew :) [14:40:25] [telegram] Anyone has any logistics improvement requests that they would like to see for tomorrow (we have no control over food and drink service - but otherwise let’s hear any ideas / requests!) [14:50:35] [telegram] @Nikerabbit @amire80 : What is the reason that Content Translation (CX) has support for machine translation in languages that are not available in the Translate Page Translation feature? [14:50:36] general question: where can I refill my bottle of water? [14:51:46] [telegram] https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot//ef79a144/file_57.jpg [14:51:50] [telegram] Alua Magna has these around [14:52:00] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @Lucas_WMDE & @tgr - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [14:52:36] [telegram] any water tap is alright to drink from (re @wmtelegram_bot: [irc] general question: where can I refill my bottle of water?) [14:53:08] ok thanks! [14:58:14] [telegram] This is now. (re @unknown: At 17:00 an iNaturalist walk of 30 minutes starts in front of the main entrance of the aula magna. [14:58:15] [telegram] iNaturalist is a citizen science project that annotates wildlife observations. In the Wikiproject iNaturalist, we levarage the many superb observation made by the iNaturalist community that are using Wikimedia compatible licenses.) [15:11:07] [telegram] Not sure, do you have an example. (re @siebrand: @Nikerabbit @amire80 : What is the reason that Content Translation (CX) has support for machine translation in languages that are not available in the Translate Page Translation feature?) [15:11:13] cinnamom rolls etc. getting thrown away soon at the catering table [15:32:49] [telegram] Pizza is now in hacking space one! Please start with one slice per person and come back for seconds once we see how many people are interested. We have more than one pizza slice per person but not more than 2 slices per person! [15:33:02] [telegram] 🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕 [15:34:56] [telegram] One moment pizzas are not sliced [15:37:56] [telegram] For now help yourself but you will need to be creative with the slicing and sharing until we track down something to cut the pizzas with [15:38:34] [telegram] Please only take gluten free of vegan if you need it in the first round - later it’s free for all. [15:39:04] [telegram] That’s all for pizza announcements :) [15:50:04] [telegram] Is there more pizza? [15:50:45] [telegram] If the pizza in hacking room 2 has run out there's probably still some in hacking room 1 [15:51:37] [telegram] There is ... a bunch of them in hacking room 1 [15:54:42] [telegram] Rotunda space out of pizza. Looks like the H.. Hus has loads of pizza still (separate building) [15:56:06] [telegram] There is still pizza. Come and get it! [15:56:07] [telegram] 🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕🍕 [15:59:06] [telegram] I vaguely recall writing some demo code in the tutorial once upon a time. Worth be worth updating it if its no longer there/working. (re @Abbe98: Is there a gadget which could serve as a good example on OOjs usage?) [16:01:07] [telegram] It’s rather confusing what pizza is what... at least for latecomers. Vegan seemingly has mushroom, else it’s just cheese? [16:01:23] [telegram] Think those are the options... [16:10:39] [telegram] Everyone needs to be out of the buildings at the university by 18:50. Please do not wait until the last moment! [16:35:55] [telegram] The hallway between hacking space two and registration is currently locked. Getting the building to open it but it may take a few minutes [16:39:37] [telegram] The table is fixed!: https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot//227d5b2d/file_58.jpg [16:56:44] [telegram] If anyone is still in either hacking space at the venue please leave now and take everyone with you. The venue staff are going home! [17:33:04] [telegram] Anyone who wants to continue hacking: there's a room at Clarion Amaranten (the hotel). [17:40:01] [telegram] If we fill it, we'll take over the lobby; it's a nice lobby. [17:50:17] [telegram] I might, but I’m tired. [17:54:19] [telegram] It's a very nice lobby. [17:55:08] [telegram] If you ignore the lack of a piano [17:56:53] [telegram] I haven’t asked the lobby about that yet, actually [17:56:56] [telegram] I probably should :> [17:57:35] [telegram] Alright already. I’m coming. :p [17:58:04] [telegram] Where exactly is the Clarion? [17:58:51] [telegram] https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/312626313 [17:59:06] [telegram] closest tram station is Rådhuset [18:03:22] [telegram] Exit the station using the Kungsholmsgatan exit. The Clarion is built on top of it, the hotel entrance is on the left when you exit the metro station. [18:03:56] [telegram] I’m walking. [18:11:46] [telegram] fair warning, the room is pretty full (I think I count four empty chairs) [18:13:57] [telegram] there is supposedly a second room [18:14:05] [telegram] I'm not sure where, though [18:15:47] [telegram] There will be a bigger room tomorrow [18:16:36] [telegram] Feel free to use the rest of the lobby [19:37:04] [telegram] anyone at clarion hotel who has not yet had dinner? [19:53:27] [telegram] Is the Wikimania program available as ICAL in oder to schedule the desired sessions in a calendar app? Any other suggestions to best pick and mark the sessions one would like to attend? [19:58:08] [telegram] Forwarded from Jan_ainali: Download the app and the schedule is on the first page https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.gaast.giggity