[10:47:27] [telegram] Thank you! We appreciate that very much. There's need for insight about best ways to interface with the Wikimedia infrastructure. Do you think a call would be possible? (re @gtisza: I won't be able to invest much beyond some volunteer time around federated user identities, but I'd be happy to discuss / give feedback on technical plans if that's helpful) [13:43:22] [telegram] FYI Wikidocumentaries can be an bridge helping Europeana who is also slowly moving direction entities [13:43:22] [telegram] we now have > 150 000 WIkidata objects connected to the Europeana Entity model with agents = person etc.... [13:43:24] [telegram] see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240290 [13:43:25] [telegram] I see a great potential Europeana <-> Wikidata [13:43:26] [telegram] * using Wikidata as a way of activating users connecting museums/archives persons to a WD object [13:43:28] [telegram] * using WIkidata to find the relation between an object with a person identified as xxxx in the archive what Europeana ENtity its the same as .... [13:43:29] [telegram] ** example agent/base/67775 = Helene Schjerfbeck that is same as Athenaeum person ID 1759 [13:43:30] [telegram] *** http://data.europeana.eu/agent/base/67775 [13:43:32] [telegram] *** http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=1759 [13:43:33] [telegram] *** https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q236985 [13:43:36] [telegram] we can then help Europeana with WIkidata to connect people to the correct entity.... [13:43:42] [telegram] Exemple Europeana Entites same as Finnish properties https://w.wiki/EXc (re @Susannaanas: Apropos: I would like to develop image search, image upload, and enriching metadata with Wikidocumentaries. I think it would be a very appropriate project for a Wikimedia grant. I wonder if there are people among you who would like to join planning and carrying out that project. There is no draft yet to refer to, w [13:43:48] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries navigates Wikimedia content based on Wikidata items. For each item, it creates a page on-the-fly and gathers openly available images from Europeana, Flickr, CC Search, Finna, and others. When the user wants to interact with an image, it will first be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and then linking and tagging can start. We have already created the basic navigation system, but none of th [13:43:51] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries will store local data in it's own Wikibase, but it will save everything that possible suits Wikimedia projects directly in them. The project would be heavily based on Structured Data on Commons. [13:43:53] [telegram] https://wikidocumentaries-demo.wmflabs.org/) [13:44:12] [telegram] FYI Wikidocumentaries can maybe be an bridge with Europeana an d maybe also helo them as they are also slowly moving direction entities [13:44:15] [telegram] we now have > 150 000 WIkidata objects connected to the Europeana Entity model with agents = person etc.... [13:44:17] [telegram] see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240290 [13:44:18] [telegram] I see a great potential Europeana <-> Wikidata [13:44:21] [telegram] * using Wikidata as a way of activating users connecting museums/archives persons to a WD object [13:44:24] [telegram] * using WIkidata to find the relation between an object with a person identified as xxxx in the archive what Europeana ENtity its the same as .... [13:44:26] [telegram] ** example agent/base/67775 = Helene Schjerfbeck that is same as Athenaeum person ID 1759 [13:44:28] [telegram] *** http://data.europeana.eu/agent/base/67775 [13:44:30] [telegram] *** http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=1759 [13:44:31] [telegram] *** https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q236985 [13:44:34] [telegram] we can then help Europeana with WIkidata to connect people to the correct entity.... [13:44:40] [telegram] Exemple Europeana Entites same as Finnish properties https://w.wiki/EXc (re @Susannaanas: Apropos: I would like to develop image search, image upload, and enriching metadata with Wikidocumentaries. I think it would be a very appropriate project for a Wikimedia grant. I wonder if there are people among you who would like to join planning and carrying out that project. There is no draft yet to refer to, w [13:44:45] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries navigates Wikimedia content based on Wikidata items. For each item, it creates a page on-the-fly and gathers openly available images from Europeana, Flickr, CC Search, Finna, and others. When the user wants to interact with an image, it will first be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and then linking and tagging can start. We have already created the basic navigation system, but none of th [13:44:49] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries will store local data in it's own Wikibase, but it will save everything that possible suits Wikimedia projects directly in them. The project would be heavily based on Structured Data on Commons. [13:44:51] [telegram] https://wikidocumentaries-demo.wmflabs.org/) [13:58:39] [telegram] FYI Wikidocumentaries can maybe be an bridge with Europeana a d maybe also help them as they are also slowly moving direction entities [13:58:43] [telegram] we now have > 150 000 WIkidata objects connected to the Europeana Entity model as agents = person etc.... [13:58:45] [telegram] see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240290 [13:58:47] [telegram] I see a great potential Europeana <-> Wikidata [13:58:49] [telegram] * using Wikidata as a way of activating users connecting museums/archives persons to a WD object [13:58:52] [telegram] * using WIkidata to find the relation between an object with a person identified as xxxx in the archive what Europeana Entity its the same as .... [13:58:54] [telegram] ** example agent/base/67775 = Helene Schjerfbeck that is same as Athenaeum person ID 1759 [13:58:56] [telegram] *** http://data.europeana.eu/agent/base/67775 [13:58:58] [telegram] *** http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=1759 [13:58:59] [telegram] *** https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q236985 [13:59:02] [telegram] we can then help Europeana with WIkidata to connect people to the correct entity.... and Wikidocumentary will get better links to Europeana.... [13:59:09] [telegram] Next step for Europeana is that they start looking into achine learning and then they need to also start adding semantics what a opicture depicts same as wikicommons does with SDC..... best approach I guess would be if Europeana had the same approach as Wikicommons with "omntology reuse" and use Wikidata for what a picture depicts... with Europeana agents it looks like they have used > 150 000 items fr [13:59:15] [telegram] Example Europeana Entites same as Finnish properties https://w.wiki/EXc (re @Susannaanas: Apropos: I would like to develop image search, image upload, and enriching metadata with Wikidocumentaries. I think it would be a very appropriate project for a Wikimedia grant. I wonder if there are people among you who would like to join planning and carrying out that project. There is no draft yet to refer to, w [13:59:20] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries navigates Wikimedia content based on Wikidata items. For each item, it creates a page on-the-fly and gathers openly available images from Europeana, Flickr, CC Search, Finna, and others. When the user wants to interact with an image, it will first be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and then linking and tagging can start. We have already created the basic navigation system, but none of th [13:59:24] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries will store local data in it's own Wikibase, but it will save everything that possible suits Wikimedia projects directly in them. The project would be heavily based on Structured Data on Commons. [13:59:26] [telegram] https://wikidocumentaries-demo.wmflabs.org/) [14:00:34] [telegram] FYI Wikidocumentaries can maybe be an bridge with Europeana a d maybe also help them as they are also slowly moving direction entities [14:00:37] [telegram] we now have > 150 000 WIkidata objects connected to the Europeana Entity model as agents = person etc.... [14:00:39] [telegram] see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240290 [14:00:40] [telegram] I see a great potential Europeana <-> Wikidata [14:00:43] [telegram] * using Wikidata as a way of activating users connecting museums/archives persons to a WD object [14:00:46] [telegram] * using WIkidata to find the relation between an object with a person identified as xxxx in the archive what Europeana Entity its the same as .... [14:00:48] [telegram] ** example agent/base/67775 = Helene Schjerfbeck that is same as Athenaeum person ID 1759 [14:00:50] [telegram] *** http://data.europeana.eu/agent/base/67775 [14:00:52] [telegram] *** http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=1759 [14:00:53] [telegram] *** https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q236985 [14:00:57] [telegram] With agent/base/67775 we have one painting but if we do text search https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/search?q=Helene%20Schjerfbeck&view=grid then we get 25 pictures i.e. they have a big metadatadebt not matching objects to entities for creator etc... [14:01:00] [telegram] we can then help Europeana with WIkidata to connect people to the correct entity.... and Wikidocumentary will get better links to Europeana.... [14:01:06] [telegram] Next step for Europeana is that they start looking into achine learning and then they need to also start adding semantics what a opicture depicts same as wikicommons does with SDC..... best approach I guess would be if Europeana had the same approach as Wikicommons with "omntology reuse" and use Wikidata for what a picture depicts... with Europeana agents it looks like they have used > 150 000 items fr [14:01:12] [telegram] Example Europeana Entites same as Finnish properties https://w.wiki/EXc (re @Susannaanas: Apropos: I would like to develop image search, image upload, and enriching metadata with Wikidocumentaries. I think it would be a very appropriate project for a Wikimedia grant. I wonder if there are people among you who would like to join planning and carrying out that project. There is no draft yet to refer to, w [14:01:18] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries navigates Wikimedia content based on Wikidata items. For each item, it creates a page on-the-fly and gathers openly available images from Europeana, Flickr, CC Search, Finna, and others. When the user wants to interact with an image, it will first be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and then linking and tagging can start. We have already created the basic navigation system, but none of th [14:01:22] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries will store local data in it's own Wikibase, but it will save everything that possible suits Wikimedia projects directly in them. The project would be heavily based on Structured Data on Commons. [14:01:23] [telegram] https://wikidocumentaries-demo.wmflabs.org/) [14:07:53] [telegram] FYI Wikidocumentaries can maybe be an bridge with Europeana and maybe also help them as they are also slowly moving direction entities [14:07:54] [telegram] we now have > 150 000 WIkidata objects connected to the Europeana Entity model as agents = person etc.... [14:07:55] [telegram] see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240290 [14:07:57] [telegram] I see a great potential Europeana <-> Wikidata [14:07:58] [telegram] * using Wikidata as a way of activating users connecting museums/archives persons to a WD object [14:07:59] [telegram] * using WIkidata to find the relation between an object with a person identified as xxxx in the archive what Europeana Entity its the same as .... [14:08:01] [telegram] ** example agent/base/67775 = Helene Schjerfbeck that is same as Athenaeum person ID 1759 [14:08:02] [telegram] *** http://data.europeana.eu/agent/base/67775 [14:08:03] [telegram] *** http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=1759 [14:08:06] [telegram] *** https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q236985 [14:08:10] [telegram] With agent/base/67775 we have one painting but if we do text search https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/search?q=Helene%20Schjerfbeck&view=grid then we get 25 pictures i.e. they have a big metadatadebt not matching objects to entities for creator etc... [14:08:13] [telegram] we can then help Europeana with WIkidata to connect people to the correct entity.... and Wikidocumentary will get better links to Europeana.... [14:08:19] [telegram] Next step for Europeana is that they start looking into achine learning and then they need to also start adding semantics what a opicture depicts same as wikicommons does with SDC..... best approach I guess would be if Europeana had the same approach as Wikicommons with "omntology reuse" and use Wikidata for what a picture depicts... with Europeana agents it looks like they have used > 150 000 items fr [14:08:25] [telegram] Example Europeana Entites same as Finnish properties https://w.wiki/EXc (re @Susannaanas: Apropos: I would like to develop image search, image upload, and enriching metadata with Wikidocumentaries. I think it would be a very appropriate project for a Wikimedia grant. I wonder if there are people among you who would like to join planning and carrying out that project. There is no draft yet to refer to, w [14:08:31] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries navigates Wikimedia content based on Wikidata items. For each item, it creates a page on-the-fly and gathers openly available images from Europeana, Flickr, CC Search, Finna, and others. When the user wants to interact with an image, it will first be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and then linking and tagging can start. We have already created the basic navigation system, but none of th [14:08:34] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries will store local data in it's own Wikibase, but it will save everything that possible suits Wikimedia projects directly in them. The project would be heavily based on Structured Data on Commons. [14:08:36] [telegram] https://wikidocumentaries-demo.wmflabs.org/) [14:08:39] [telegram] FYI Wikidocumentaries can maybe be an bridge with Europeana and maybe also help them as they are also slowly moving direction entities [14:08:41] [telegram] we now have > 150 000 WIkidata objects connected to the Europeana Entity model as agents = person etc.... [14:08:43] [telegram] see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240290 [14:08:45] [telegram] I see a great potential Europeana <-> Wikidata [14:08:47] [telegram] * using Wikidata as a way of activating users connecting museums/archives persons to a WD object [14:08:50] [telegram] * using WIkidata to find the relation between an object with a person identified as xxxx in the archive what Europeana Entity its the same as .... [14:08:53] [telegram] ** example agent/base/67775 = Helene Schjerfbeck that is same as Athenaeum person ID 1759 [14:08:54] [telegram] *** http://data.europeana.eu/agent/base/67775 [14:08:56] [telegram] *** http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=1759 [14:08:58] [telegram] *** https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q236985 [14:09:02] [telegram] With agent/base/67775 we have one painting but if we do text search https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/search?q=Helene%20Schjerfbeck&view=grid then we get 25 pictures i.e. they have a big metadatadebt not matching objects to entities for creator etc... [14:09:05] [telegram] we can then help Europeana with WIkidata to connect people to the correct entity.... and Wikidocumentary will get better links to Europeana.... [14:09:11] [telegram] Next step for Europeana is that they start looking into machine learning and then they need to also start adding semantics what a opicture depicts same as wikicommons does with SDC..... best approach I guess would be if Europeana had the same approach as Wikicommons with "omntology reuse" and use Wikidata for what a picture depicts... with Europeana agents it looks like they have used > 150 000 items f [14:09:17] [telegram] Example Europeana Entites same as Finnish properties https://w.wiki/EXc (re @Susannaanas: Apropos: I would like to develop image search, image upload, and enriching metadata with Wikidocumentaries. I think it would be a very appropriate project for a Wikimedia grant. I wonder if there are people among you who would like to join planning and carrying out that project. There is no draft yet to refer to, w [14:09:23] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries navigates Wikimedia content based on Wikidata items. For each item, it creates a page on-the-fly and gathers openly available images from Europeana, Flickr, CC Search, Finna, and others. When the user wants to interact with an image, it will first be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and then linking and tagging can start. We have already created the basic navigation system, but none of th [14:09:26] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries will store local data in it's own Wikibase, but it will save everything that possible suits Wikimedia projects directly in them. The project would be heavily based on Structured Data on Commons. [14:09:28] [telegram] https://wikidocumentaries-demo.wmflabs.org/) [14:09:31] [telegram] FYI Wikidocumentaries can maybe be an bridge with Europeana and maybe also help them as they are also slowly moving direction entities [14:09:33] [telegram] we now have > 150 000 WIkidata objects connected to the Europeana Entity model as agents = person etc.... [14:09:35] [telegram] see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240290 [14:09:37] [telegram] I see a great potential Europeana <-> Wikidata [14:09:39] [telegram] * using Wikidata as a way of activating users connecting museums/archives persons to a WD object [14:09:42] [telegram] * using WIkidata to find the relation between an object with a person identified as xxxx in the archive what Europeana Entity its the same as .... [14:09:44] [telegram] ** example agent/base/67775 = Helene Schjerfbeck that is same as Athenaeum person ID 1759 [14:09:46] [telegram] *** http://data.europeana.eu/agent/base/67775 [14:09:48] [telegram] *** http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=1759 [14:09:50] [telegram] *** https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q236985 [14:09:54] [telegram] With agent/base/67775 we have one painting but if we do text search https://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/search?q=Helene%20Schjerfbeck&view=grid then we get 25 pictures i.e. they have a big metadatadebt not matching objects to entities for creator etc... [14:09:57] [telegram] we can then help Europeana with WIkidata to connect people to the correct entity.... and Wikidocumentary will get better links to Europeana.... [14:10:03] [telegram] Next step for Europeana is that they start looking into machine learning and then they need to also start adding semantics what a picture depicts same as wikicommons does with SDC..... best approach I guess would be if Europeana had the same approach as Wikicommons with "ontology reuse" and use Wikidata for what a picture depicts... with Europeana agents it looks like they have used > 150 000 items fro [14:10:09] [telegram] Example Europeana Entites same as Finnish properties https://w.wiki/EXc (re @Susannaanas: Apropos: I would like to develop image search, image upload, and enriching metadata with Wikidocumentaries. I think it would be a very appropriate project for a Wikimedia grant. I wonder if there are people among you who would like to join planning and carrying out that project. There is no draft yet to refer to, w [14:10:15] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries navigates Wikimedia content based on Wikidata items. For each item, it creates a page on-the-fly and gathers openly available images from Europeana, Flickr, CC Search, Finna, and others. When the user wants to interact with an image, it will first be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons and then linking and tagging can start. We have already created the basic navigation system, but none of th [14:10:18] [telegram] Wikidocumentaries will store local data in it's own Wikibase, but it will save everything that possible suits Wikimedia projects directly in them. The project would be heavily based on Structured Data on Commons. [14:10:20] [telegram] https://wikidocumentaries-demo.wmflabs.org/)