[09:39:44] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Hackathon 2020 is canceled
[09:40:14] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Hello, 
[09:40:14] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> With great regret, this email is to inform all participants of the Wikimedia Hackathon 2020 that we are https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources/COVID-19_Notice. 
[09:40:16] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> COVID-19 is now considered a pandemic by the World Health Organization, which imposes the Wikimedia Foundation and the local organizing team to follow the proposed guidance and avoid gatherings and to prioritize the well being of the participants and organizers. 
[09:40:17] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> On behalf of the organizing team, we especially want to thank all of the folks who have been working hard on the programming of this event. 
[09:40:20] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Those working on building the mentoring and newcomer onboarding program: 
[09:40:23] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Daniëlle Jansen, Aaron Halfaker, Cindy Cicalese, Miriam Redi, Nafie Shehu, Sidorela Uku, Marcela Korreshi
[09:40:25] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> The scholarship committee: 
[09:40:27] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Lars Haefner, Marios Magioladitis, Tobias Schönberg, Léa Lacroix, Mariana Balla, Sidorela Uku, Nafie Shehu, Srishti Sethi
[09:40:29] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Everyone who has helped in shaping the GLAM focus area: 
[09:40:31] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten>  Alex Stinson, Sandra Fauconnier, Lucie Patterson
[09:40:34] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> And everyone who has spent time and energy thinking about and preparing their event contributions or who volunteered in advance to take on an organization role during the event.
[09:40:38] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Personally, I want to thinhttps://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2020#Organizing_teamia. This hackathon was shaping up to be one of the higher quality hackathons we have had. The amount of time, dedication and care that has gone into shaping this event has been extraordinary. 
[09:40:40] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Please take care,
[09:40:42] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Your hackathon organizing team 
[09:40:43] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> -- 
[09:40:45] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Rachel Farrand
[09:40:46] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <DiFronzo> 😔
[09:40:48] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Magioladitis> I think it was the right decision to make
[09:45:33] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <pavithraes> That's unfortunate. I just want to thank all the organisers for their hard work and for boldly taking the necessary action. :)
[09:45:41] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Yes. Sucks, but yes, only right decision to make. 
[09:45:41] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Just have to figure out what to do with the already booked (non-refundable) flights and accommodation.
[09:52:19] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/d70a87f1/file_103.webp
[09:58:06] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Abel_Que_Quieles> Hum, will be it be postponed or do it again in Albania or is cancelled forever?
[10:07:56] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Gopa_Vasanth> According to the above info, it seems to ba cancelled :( (re @Abel_Que_Quieles: Hum, will be it be postponed or do it again in Albania or is cancelled forever?)
[10:08:50] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Nicolas> yes, cancelled 😢 (re @Gopa_Vasanth: According to the above info, it seems to ba cancelled :()
[10:10:11] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Gopa_Vasanth> According to the above info, it seems to be cancelled :( (re @Abel_Que_Quieles: Hum, will be it be postponed or do it again in Albania or is cancelled forever?)
[10:10:12] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <rskikuli> once the situation with COVID-19 gets sorted out, the local team would love to start talking again on hosting it here. But it will take some time before this discussion happens due to the situation.
[10:21:57] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <tobijat> Thanks to all the organizers! 😘 Yes, it's sad, but it's the right decision.
[10:22:59] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <tobijat> I'd love to see a Hackathon in Albania once everything is back to normal.
[10:35:42] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Nicolas> thanks! (re @rskikuli: once the situation with COVID-19 gets sorted out, the local team would love to start talking again on hosting it here. But it will take some time before this discussion happens due to the situation.)
[10:51:21] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Cachosagan> Thanks for the info! Be safe everyone
[10:56:11] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <rskikuli> we too - were really looking forward to this one. (re @tobijat: I'd love to see a Hackathon in Albania once everything is back to normal.)
[10:56:29] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <rskikuli> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/82038735/file_104.webp
[10:57:40] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <André> Can customers claim Force Majeur, or does that only go one way? Also what is the chance the flight itself won't get canceled? (re @Maarten: Yes. Sucks, but yes, only right decision to make. 
[10:57:41] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <André> Just have to figure out what to do with the already booked (non-refundable) flights and accommodation.)
[11:16:37] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <rskikuli> I think this situation has caught everyone by surprise, including airline policies, governments and organizations. So, to answer your question it is not clear yet :) (re @André: Can customers claim Force Majeur, or does that only go one way? Also what is the chance the flight itself won't get canceled?)
[12:48:02] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <PierreSelim> Some airline will refund you, a colleague got full refund from Lufthansa after he cancelled his trip
[13:31:35] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <tehreedy> You might need to wait till a bit closer in to be able to get refunds depending on the airline
[13:50:27] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <bd808> I’m sad not to be seeing y’all at the event, but I’m energized to figure out how to have a remote hackathon. We need to share our talents and show off our accomplishments.
[13:51:44] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> Would be interesting, and might be the only option in these times. But I don't think we can ever really substitute face to face with remote conferences. (re @bd808: I’m sad not to be seeing y’all at the event, but I’m energized to figure out how to have a remote hackathon. We need to share our talents and show off our accomplishments.)
[14:07:30] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <rskikuli> +1 (re @chicocvenancio: Would be interesting, and might be the only option in these times. But I don't think we can ever really substitute face to face with remote conferences.)
[14:10:20] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Nicolas> very true but it also depends on the subject (re @chicocvenancio: Would be interesting, and might be the only option in these times. But I don't think we can ever really substitute face to face with remote conferences.)
[14:17:52] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> Sorry for changing the subject, do you know about any tool to change the order of values of a statement in Wikidata?
[15:21:27] <bd808>	 I agree that remote interaction is not the same thing as an in-person event. There is a reason that I fly long distances and stay in hostels to see y'all and it is not because I like sitting on a plane for 9 hours or sleeping in dorm rooms. :)
[15:26:20] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> Yeah, same here. 
[15:26:21] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> I also think getting a good remote hackathon going would have a tremendous empowering effect on the movement. It would allow us to have more events and would allow more participation from people who, for any reason, don't participate on the in-person events. It is also a lot easier to record remote conferences and have that material edited for on-demand consumption. 
[15:26:29] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> My original point is just that specially for huge (in territory) countries such as Brazil, United States, Russia, Australia and China, it is very hard to do in-person events of any kind. And remote conferences will never be able to fully replace that experience with current tech. (re @wmtelegram_bot: [irc] <bd808> I agree that remote interaction is not the same thing as an in-person event. There i
[18:30:15] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> Please can someone help me with some of these questions 
[18:30:16] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 1.       Alert system in mediawiki e.g. SMS, email.
[18:30:18] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 2.       Automatic writer name insertion for discussion/forum pages.
[18:30:19] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 3.       Where to find all the extensions and what functionality they provide?
[18:30:20] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 4.       Full features of Wikimedia and where to find them?
[18:30:22] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 5.       Analytics/analysis of MediaWiki content.
[18:30:23] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 6.       Where MediaWiki is been used in education.
[18:38:46] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <amire80> 1. SMS - I'm not aware of such a feature. Email is handled partly in core MediaWiki and partly in the Echo extension.
[18:41:02] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <amire80> 2. There is the Flow extension, but it's not very actively developed now. A new extension that does this differently is called Discussion Tools, and it will be developed soon.
[18:42:29] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <amire80> 3. This list is very big. See: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Extensions
[18:46:39] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> Omg wmf develops another flow again?.. (re @amire80: 2. There is the Flow extension, but it's not very actively developed now. A new extension that does this differently is called Discussion Tools, and it will be developed soon.)
[18:55:25] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> Thankfully (re @Thecladis: Omg wmf develops another flow again?..)
[19:08:12] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Jan_ainali> not a flow, a tool to easier interact with existing talk pages (re @Thecladis: Omg wmf develops another flow again?..)
[19:28:52] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> Yeah, that has been a necessity since the beginning of wikis. We're really just abusing the wiki system in talk pages. (re @Jan_ainali: not a flow, a tool to easier interact with existing talk pages)
[19:52:21] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> @amire80 thank you very much for the info if anyone can assist me with the 4,5 and 6 questions.I will be very much grateful. (re @joris_darlington: Please can someone help me with some of these questions 
[19:52:22] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 1.       Alert system in mediawiki e.g. SMS, email.
[19:52:23] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 2.       Automatic writer name insertion for discussion/forum pages.
[19:52:25] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 3.       Where to find all the extensions and what functionality they provide?
[19:52:26] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 4.       Full features of Wikimedia and where to find them?
[19:52:27] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 5.       Analytics/analysis of MediaWiki content.
[19:52:29] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> 6.       Where MediaWiki is been used in education.)
[20:29:43] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <andreklapper> Q4: If you meant MediaWiki, then see the docs on www.mediawiki.org for its features.
[20:29:43] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <andreklapper> Q5: Can you elaborate please? (re @joris_darlington: @amire80 thank you very much for the info if anyone can assist me with the 4,5 and 6 questions.I will be very much grateful.)
[20:37:17] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> Q6. I know of a lot of use of Wikipedia, Commons, Wikiversity and Wikisource in education (wikidata as well) . But few direct uses of mediawiki, does that count for your purposes? (re @joris_darlington: Please can someone help me with some of these questions 
[20:37:17] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> 1.       Alert system in mediawiki e.g. SMS, email.
[20:37:18] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> 2.       Automatic writer name insertion for discussion/forum pages.
[20:37:20] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> 3.       Where to find all the extensions and what functionality they provide?
[20:37:21] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> 4.       Full features of Wikimedia and where to find them?
[20:37:24] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> 5.       Analytics/analysis of MediaWiki content.
[20:37:26] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> 6.       Where MediaWiki is been used in education.)
[22:55:39] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> Thank you very much @andreklapper (re @andreklapper: Q4: If you meant MediaWiki, then see the docs on www.mediawiki.org for its features.
[22:55:40] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> Q5: Can you elaborate please?)
[22:55:57] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> I will direct message you with Q5
[22:56:31] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <jeremy_b> why not tell us all? (re @joris_darlington: I will direct message you with Q5)
[23:16:54] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> Okay like how analytics are been done based on contributions from user (re @andreklapper: Q4: If you meant MediaWiki, then see the docs on www.mediawiki.org for its features.
[23:16:55] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> Q5: Can you elaborate please?)
[23:18:05] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <joris_darlington> I will like to know more about the few direct uses of MediaWiki (re @chicocvenancio: Q6. I know of a lot of use of Wikipedia, Commons, Wikiversity and Wikisource in education (wikidata as well) . But few direct uses of mediawiki, does that count for your purposes?)