[02:10:38] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> Huh? There is IRC for years if you want that. (re @mos6581: sure, but an non profit organisation can help providing free possibilities where they have their official groups. the point is that you can contribute without needing facebook, etc.)
[02:15:55] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> Just as a note, the official official discussions can only happen on wiki. All the other means of communication can sometimes be recognised on wiki as sorta official (=people who run those are recognised to be of community and not just random people abusing the brand name) but that does not mean that they can be a medium to replace on wiki discussions and decisionmaking.
[02:17:09] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> The only exception are probably some admin or otrs chats and the like where people discuss some non-public stuff
[02:17:29] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <tehreedy> mailing lists?
[02:18:03] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> For the latter? Not only mailing lists
[02:18:47] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> Skype, Discord, Telegram and what not
[02:22:45] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <tehreedy> No, I was meaning some communities do have active mailing lists (or did..)
[02:22:58] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> Ah, true
[02:24:56] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <tehreedy> And for more weirdness, I think some communities like to use FB groups for their "official" places
[02:25:26] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <tehreedy> Which is.. Yeah :/
[02:26:25] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> Well, FB groups are good for structured discussion. Basically the same thing emails provides except in FB which I personally check at least two orders of magnitude more often than my email
[02:26:42] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> Well, FB groups are good for structured discussion. Basically the same thing emails provide except in FB which I personally check at least two orders of magnitude more often than my email
[08:29:57] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <edoderoo> The other options are Apple (even worse, to my idea) or Ubuntu (for some an improvement, for many a scary experience). (re @Maarten: The WMF is currently a Google house when it comes to the standard office software)
[08:30:26] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <edoderoo> Or maybe go the Microsoft Way.
[10:46:37] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <hayify> The tool i demoed during the hackathon where you could search through Wikimedia Commons using structured data is now live: https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/sdsearch/
[12:18:20] <arturo>	 hey people, do you know of any tool that shows geo-enabled elements in a map? For example: a map with all the mountains registered in wikidata
[12:27:58] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Jan_ainali> Wikidata Query Service. For your question: https://w.wiki/RMD (well, with a LIMIT to avoid timeout)
[12:28:31] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Jan_ainali> Wikidata Query Service. For your question: https://w.wiki/RME (well, with a LIMIT to avoid timeout)
[12:33:54] <arturo>	 <3
[12:34:32] <arturo>	 ❤️
[12:34:35] <arturo>	 not enough love!
[12:35:52] <arturo>	 also... it seems I have some pending coordinates to add
[12:36:31] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Jan_ainali> Well, there are way more than 1000 mountains in Wikidata, but trying to get all in one go made the query timeout
[12:37:04] <arturo>	 next level would be to filter the query by country.. or some other kind of region
[12:37:53] <arturo>	 suddenly I have a tool idea, or a hackathon project
[12:47:05] <arturo>	 I should probably be doing some actual work instead of diving into wikidata :-D
[12:47:33] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Jan_ainali> Seems to be over 6000 mountains only in Japan: https://w.wiki/RME
[12:47:47] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Jan_ainali> Seems to be over 6000 mountains only in Japan: https://w.wiki/RMP
[12:50:01] * arturo discovers "edit visually"
[12:50:04] <arturo>	 OMG
[13:02:38] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <edoderoo> someone imported a database with GEO-info like mountains, hills, and other alike data. And the Cebuano-wiki has created articles for all of those.... (re @Jan_ainali: Seems to be over 6000 mountains only in Japan: https://w.wiki/RMP)
[14:59:06] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> lol
[15:21:35] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Other organizations are using things like own cloud to not be sharing all their data with one of the big cloud providers. (re @edoderoo: Or maybe go the Microsoft Way.)
[16:21:01] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <edoderoo> Besides a vendor lock in, Wikimedia is a pretty open organisation, unlike many commercial companies, that need to hide their data against "evil eyes". (re @Maarten: Other organizations are using things like own cloud to not be sharing all their data with one of the big cloud providers.)
[16:21:49] <wm-bridgebot>	 [telegram] <edoderoo> But as a user I do not see any Google inclusion. I know in the office they use some Google products, but I worked for companies that used those tools as well.