[20:09:13] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> Oh come on.
[20:09:14] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> I cannot create a test account that includes my main account name Amire80. I get an error that accounts with this name are forbidden:
[20:09:15] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> .*Amire80.*                             <newaccountonly|antispoof>
[20:09:16] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> Is this specifically my username that was forbidden somewhere, or are all usernames that include other usernames forbidden? Is there an antispoof list separately from the spam blacklist?
[20:12:56] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> Yours specifically: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Title_blacklist (re @amire80: Oh come on.
[20:12:56] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> I cannot create a test account that includes my main account name Amire80. I get an error that accounts with this name are forbidden:
[20:12:57] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> .*Amire80.*                             <newaccountonly|antispoof>
[20:12:58] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> Is this specifically my username that was forbidden somewhere, or are all usernames that include other usernames forbidden? Is there an antispoof list separately from the spam blacklist?)
[20:13:21] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> WTAF.
[20:13:48] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> "Stewards, SWMT and prominent admins"
[20:14:00] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> :patrick-stewart:
[20:14:13] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Title_blacklist&diff=17928723&oldid=17888689
[20:14:51] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <WMYupik> Congratulations 😁
[20:16:33] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> Like OK, I guess it's an honor of sorts, but one of the things that make me prominent (ROTFL) is that occasionally I do my best to feel as close as possible to how new users feel, so I create new test accounts, but I try to do it in a transparent way that will show who I actually am to other admins.
[20:17:17] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> I guess I'll have to create real sneaky sockpuppets or something.
[20:17:37] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> @amire80 if you're an admin on Meta, you should be able to just remove your username from there
[20:17:56] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> Yeah... I guess I won't if it's for other people, too.
[20:18:40] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> I guess that experiencing this blacklist is also kind of close to putting myself in new users' shoes!
[20:18:47] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> hehehe, true
[20:31:32] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Maarten> Amir81?
[20:36:36] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> @amire80 btw, does the filter also kick in if you create the account while still logged in (and on a wiki where you are admin)?
[20:39:06] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> I thought about it, but I wanted to do without help from an admin
[20:39:06] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> It's usually only included after some trolls try to impersonate or use your name in part of offensive usernames
[20:39:31] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> Revi is [censored, put your favorite bad words] kind of thing
[20:40:03] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> I don't remember anyone trying to do this, but it's possible that I forgot it, or that somebody shielded me from even knowing about this :)
[20:40:10] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> I had so many of those back in 2006-ish when I was active on enwiktionary… we had one very persistent vandal (re @revinim: Revi is [censored, put your favorite bad words] kind of thing)
[20:40:40] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> I got it since I got involved in admin-ish area
[20:41:02] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> I should've been smarter and made my username more unique so it can be TBL'ed :-p
[20:41:24] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> Hindsight is {{CURRENTYEAR}} (re @revinim: I should've been smarter and made my username more unique so it can be TBL'ed :-p)
[20:42:15] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <WMYupik> I only get people trying to log in to my account when I piss them off 😂
[20:42:49] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> I used to get 200 password reset emails
[20:43:23] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> (Quite distributed like 200 total in a week tho)
[20:43:36] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <WMYupik> Ugh, 200 is horrible :o
[20:43:37] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> Thank god you now need my email address to send it ~_~
[20:45:21] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <WMYupik> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/2cfd1d50/file_334_tgs.webp
[20:45:37] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> (And kudos for Community Tech people) (re @revinim: Thank god you now need my email address to send it ~_~)
[20:46:39] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <WMYupik> (Sorry to anyone who might have Cheburashka trauma from their childhood ❤️)
[20:47:19] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jeremy_b> really? username not enough?? (re @revinim: Thank god you now need my email address to send it ~_~)
[20:47:46] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> You can set a preference option to require email + username to initiate password reset (re @jeremy_b: really? username not enough??)
[20:47:56] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jeremy_b> oh huh
[20:48:08] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> Available since early 2020 or late 2019
[20:48:36] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> Probably early 2020 but I'm not 100% sure (re @revinim: Available since early 2020 or late 2019)
[20:48:56] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> Quite the contrary, Kim, quote the contrary. No true Russian —for a very broad definition of "Russian", which includes even myself— has any negative feelings about Cheburashka. (re @WMYupik: (Sorry to anyone who might have Cheburashka trauma from their childhood ❤️))
[20:53:05] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <WMYupik> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/48c0299d/file_335_tgs.webp
[20:54:51] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <WMYupik> That is a wonderful development! (re @revinim: You can set a preference option to require email + username to initiate password reset)
[20:56:12] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <WMYupik> Now this is playing in my head. Lovely earworm 😁
[20:56:13] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <WMYupik> https://youtube.com/watch?v=EbAPd1491X8
[20:56:44] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <WMYupik> Hopefully it stays in Russian, because the Finnish version is awful.😂
[20:58:08] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> 🤔 Well, if you can not create an account with username containing username of some sysop, then I would like to persuade https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:A to become one, to see what would it result in. (re @amire80: "Stewards, SWMT and prominent admins")
[21:00:29] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> Did you try to *register* an account ot to *create* an account (in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CreateAccount ) ? (re @amire80: Oh come on.
[21:00:29] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> I cannot create a test account that includes my main account name Amire80. I get an error that accounts with this name are forbidden:
[21:00:31] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> .*Amire80.*                             <newaccountonly|antispoof>
[21:00:32] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> Is this specifically my username that was forbidden somewhere, or are all usernames that include other usernames forbidden? Is there an antispoof list separately from the spam blacklist?)
[21:00:44] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> Well, there's this famous joke:
[21:00:44] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> — "How do you sing 'Happy birthday' in Russian?"
[21:00:45] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> — "Let the pedestrians run clumsily on the puddles,
[21:00:46] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> And let the water flow like a river on the asphalt,
[21:00:48] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> The passersby cannot understand why, on such a foul day,
[21:00:49] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> Am I so happy."
[21:00:50] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> — "Um, remind me please, what did I ask you about?" (re @WMYupik: Now this is playing in my head. Lovely earworm 😁
[21:00:51] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> https://youtube.com/watch?v=EbAPd1491X8)
[21:00:53] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> Did you try to *register* an account or to *create* an account (in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CreateAccount ) ? (re @amire80: Oh come on.
[21:00:54] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> I cannot create a test account that includes my main account name Amire80. I get an error that accounts with this name are forbidden:
[21:00:55] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> .*Amire80.*                             <newaccountonly|antispoof>
[21:00:57] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Tohaomg> Is this specifically my username that was forbidden somewhere, or are all usernames that include other usernames forbidden? Is there an antispoof list separately from the spam blacklist?)
[21:00:58] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> Register. (re @Tohaomg: Did you try to *register* an account or to *create* an account (in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CreateAccount ) ?)
[21:00:59] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jeremy_b> what's the difference?? (re @Tohaomg: Did you try to *register* an account or to *create* an account (in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CreateAccount ) ?)
[21:01:38] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> An admin can create accounts for other people, and it passes by some limitations, for example throttling of new accounts from the same IP address. (re @jeremy_b: what's the difference??)
[21:02:19] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jeremy_b> yes I know. but still aren't they synonymous? (re @amire80: An admin can create accounts for other people, and it passes by some limitations, for example throttling of new accounts from the same IP address.)
[21:04:05] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> Sysops can override antispoof / title blacklist triggers
[21:05:04] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e54f82e6/file_337.jpg
[21:12:13] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jeremy_b> and eventcoordinators (re @revinim: Sysops can override antispoof / title blacklist triggers)
[21:12:24] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> For enwiki, iirc
[21:12:47] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jeremy_b> but once an account is created anywhere... SUL
[21:12:55] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> Yup
[21:13:08] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <revinim> (And `accountcreator`) (re @revinim: Sysops can override antispoof / title blacklist triggers)