[09:12:27] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Михаил> I have a Teltonika RUT955 router. It redirects certain kinds of events to certain numbers. If these messages contain Russian letters (Cyrillic) then instead of each letter there is a "?" Yesterday I talked with the technical specialists of the mobile operator. Now it's ANSI encoding. Changed the sending encoding to utf-8 and utf-16. The problem was not solved, but the content of course changed. Technical experts said that 
[13:34:33] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> I've just discovered https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org and I'M THRILLED.
[13:35:45] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <mahir256> yay, all of Langcom now knows about it
[13:35:56] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <mahir256> . (re @jhsoby: Thanks, that's the one I was thinking of!)
[13:36:28] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> "OOOOH Shiny!' @amire80 just now (re @lucaswerkmeister: not local but https://patchdemo.wmflabs.org/ includes plenty of extensions at least)
[13:36:48] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> ^^
[13:40:20] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> The MediaWiki installation on my laptop has been broken for a while, and I write too little code these days to fix it properly, and even if I fixed it, it would be quite far from a real Wikimedia site. So yes, it looks useful for testing.
[13:41:06] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> Indeed. I use it to develop gadgets now. (re @amire80: The MediaWiki installation on my laptop has been broken for a while, and I write too little code these days to fix it properly, and even if I fixed it, it would be quite far from a real Wikimedia site. So yes, it looks useful for testing.)
[13:41:27] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> Indeed. I use it to develop gadgets now. (specifically gadgets that do administrative actions) (re @amire80: The MediaWiki installation on my laptop has been broken for a while, and I write too little code these days to fix it properly, and even if I fixed it, it would be quite far from a real Wikimedia site. So yes, it looks useful for testing.)
[13:41:59] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> But I also have so many questions now. Like, why can Wikimedia people make this cool thing, but creating an actual language-code.wikipedia.org takes many days.
[13:43:08] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> And why doesn't it require to change the initial password.
[13:44:26] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> patch-demo is volunteer maintained with many configurations that wouldn't be appropriate for user-facing websites (re @amire80: But I also have so many questions now. Like, why can Wikimedia people make this cool thing, but creating an actual language-code.wikipedia.org takes many days.)
[13:45:29] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> And why does my browser say that it's not really secure when I try to change the password, even though it's https.
[13:51:07] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> And most importantly, how do I change LocalSettings.php.
[13:52:56] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> I guess I could change DefaultSettings.php, but this would be quite awful.
[13:53:06] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Alex> Wikipedia's infrastructure and processes are much more complicated than creating a little default MediaWiki install (re @amire80: But I also have so many questions now. Like, why can Wikimedia people make this cool thing, but creating an actual language-code.wikipedia.org takes many days.)
[13:53:17] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Alex> For one thing you have to schedule deployments
[13:53:30] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> connection's secure here (re @amire80: And why does my browser say that it's not really secure when I try to change the password, even though it's https.)
[13:54:07] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Alex> For another there is (or was, been a few years since I did it myself) a bunch of different things that need deploying in various different parts of wikimedia, in order to make a new wiki
[13:55:23] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Alex> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Add_a_wiki to see the production wiki creation process
[13:55:37] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> what do you want to change there? I don't think it can be changed, no. https://github.com/MatmaRex/patchdemo#faq (re @amire80: And most importantly, how do I change LocalSettings.php.)
[13:56:30] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> $wgContentLang. And I'm not the first to ask about this particular thing: https://github.com/MatmaRex/patchdemo/issues/92
[17:29:02] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> /me currently uses MW Docker but it has its downsides
[18:27:28] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Ad> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/5024e542/file_2646_oga.ogg
[18:28:44] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Ad> Sorry. Does anyone know how to remove the above audio fragment?
[18:29:21] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> done :)
[18:29:25] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Neslihan> you should be able to long touch and delete your message for everyone
[18:29:26] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> delete message => delete for everyone
[18:29:36] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Neslihan> a-ha :) (re @lucaswerkmeister: done :))
[18:30:20] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Ad> Thanks. I tried long touch, but that didn't work (re @lucaswerkmeister: done :))