[00:23:01] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> And what I and someone else experienced as well was that it was impossible to connect through the mpbile app, although the other person has managed to connect via the web version on their phone (I just went to my laptop instead)
[04:11:31] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Ladsgroup> damn :( (re @Paulo_Darwin: tried now after the SWAn meeting (social meeting), but was a bad experience again)
[04:12:14] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Ladsgroup> I don't think it's performance, it's on a VM (not docker) in wmcs, most instances in the wild should just workTM (re @MaartenDammers: Still having performance issues Amir?)
[04:12:37] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Ladsgroup> and the VM is beefy
[04:14:35] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Ladsgroup> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268393
[04:15:01] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Ladsgroup> new hypotheses: MTU has an issue in wmcs infra
[04:15:35] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Ladsgroup> but I don't think there is anything I can do anymore.
[04:27:57] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Ladsgroup> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/87f5fd43/file_3708.jpg
[06:43:37] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> :(
[08:37:26] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <psychoslave> I confirm the quality was too low to be a solution to recommend it as is. The undockerization was unfortunately not enough it seems. (re @Paulo_Darwin: then the conversation would reappear out of the blue)
[08:39:31] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <psychoslave> I confirm the quality was too low to be a solution to recommend, or use it as is for online workshop. The undockerization was unfortunately not enough it seems. (re @Paulo_Darwin: then the conversation would reappear out of the blue)
[08:40:06] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <psychoslave> What is MTU in this context?
[08:40:27] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <psychoslave> I guess wmcs stands for cloud services, yes?
[08:40:37] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> yes (re @psychoslave: I guess wmcs stands for cloud services, yes?)
[09:12:01] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> It is a performance problem because the application is not functioning well enough. Only the source of the problem seems hard to find. My next step would be to run it on a bare metal server to rule out the whole cloud part. (re @Ladsgroup: I don't think it's performance, it's on a VM (not docker) in wmcs, most instances in the wild should just workTM)
[09:12:53] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Ladsgroup> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_transmission_unit (re @psychoslave: What is MTU in this context?)
[09:13:21] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Ladsgroup> I don't have access to a bare metal system (re @MaartenDammers: It is a performance problem because the application is not functioning well enough. Only the source of the problem seems hard to find. My next step would be to run it on a bare metal server to rule out the whole cloud part.)
[09:21:57] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> Worth asking around I guess
[09:23:11] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <MaartenDammers> If you have mtu problems you would see a lot of fragmented packets. You can test the mtu by doing a ping with the df bit set.
[15:11:44] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <Thecladis> do variants work at banwiki? https://ban.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atol — for me it looks the same regardless of variant selected
[15:40:24] <wm-bb_>	 [telegram] <hdjcjfjcjfj> https://t.me/joinchat/N63PKp5Okg05MWZk