[09:34:55] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> @jhsoby What to do to use MediaWiki with Google Chrome
[09:35:22] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> Hi, not sure what you mean…? (re @Kshovo: @jhsoby What to do to use MediaWiki with Google Chrome)
[09:35:28] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> Hi, I'm not sure what you mean…? (re @Kshovo: @jhsoby What to do to use MediaWiki with Google Chrome)
[09:36:38] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/bf01d468/file_3806.jpg
[09:36:53] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e9a0bde5/file_3807.jpg
[09:37:39] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> I'm using Mediawiki with mobile
[09:37:49] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> And views
[09:38:00] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> @jhsoby
[09:38:33] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> that looks like T235554
[09:38:33] <stashbot>	 T235554: MediaWiki::outputResponsePayload seemingly causes net::ERR_HTTP2_PROTOCOL_ERROR 200 and compression issues in 1.35 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235554
[09:38:35] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> i vaguely remember this problem (perhaps even it was you who posted it before)
[09:39:04] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> Yes (re @jhsoby: i vaguely remember this problem (perhaps even it was you who posted it before))
[09:44:09] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> In the bug @lucaswerkmeister posted, the solution seems to be to add $wgDisableOutputCompression = true; to your LocalSettings.php (re @Kshovo: Yes)
[09:46:09] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> I'm use but don't work (re @jhsoby: In the bug @lucaswerkmeister posted, the solution seems to be to add $wgDisableOutputCompression = true; to your LocalSettings.php)
[09:54:20] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> hmm, I don't have any other ideas unfortunately 😐 maybe someone else here does (re @Kshovo: I'm use but don't work)
[09:55:10] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> 😔 (re @jhsoby: hmm, I don't have any other ideas unfortunately 😐 maybe someone else here does)
[11:21:13] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <bachounda> Reminder - 3 days left before the survey closes 
[11:21:13] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <bachounda> Remote wikiarabia  
[11:21:15] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <bachounda> The Wikimedia Algeria user group is planning to organize a remote conference this year 2021.
[11:21:16] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <bachounda> The survey aims to identify the community's aspirations for the conference (how it is perceived, planned date, content, outcomes, wishes, etc.).
[11:21:18] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <bachounda> بالعربي https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdmSuYzhBQgBRr-riLbi3jI0xTdhGonyZhc7GSdcWaXzAgbgw/viewform
[11:21:19] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <bachounda> Formulaire en Français : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf_rxE0Snvws9iMpqmhS_byw7OKZNTyWfCMr6dBKYWsv9b47g/viewform
[11:21:21] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <bachounda> in english : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfVhjJkabvdlQKaMKgYoDQfMPAFfdcHnve63uwZi6TXQNSJiw/viewform
[13:16:21] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> Does anyone have insights into why mediawiki believes the article in ptwiki [[:pt:Lista de rodovias estaduais do Rio Grande do Sul]] is transcluded into 240 talk pages that it is not?
[13:16:45] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> Does anyone have insights into why mediawiki believes the article in ptwiki [[:pt:Lista de rodovias estaduais do Rio Grande do Sul]] is transcluded into 240 talk pages that it is not? https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Especial:P%C3%A1ginas_afluentes/Lista_de_rodovias_estaduais_do_Rio_Grande_do_Sul&hideredirs=1&hidelinks=1&limit=500
[13:57:41] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> I believe there's something in Lua that counts as transclusion. Could be the mw.title.new or something from [[w:pt:Módulo:Arguments]]. And since the main pages of all of those talk pages in [[w:pt:Especial:Páginas_afluentes/Lista_de_rodovias_estaduais_do_Rio_Grande_do_Sul]] all redirect to the same article, it is as if that article is transcluded a bunch of times (re @chicocvenancio: Does anyone have insights into why mediawik
[14:03:08] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> @chicocvenancio yes, [[Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#Title objects]] says that getContent() counts as a transclusion. And getContent() is used in [[:pt:Módulo:Avaliação]]
[14:18:11] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> that explains why the pages are transcluded in their own talk pages but not fully explains why the Lista de rodovias estaduais do Rio Grande do Sul is transcluded into the highway articles.
[14:18:51] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> my curiosity is satisfied though, been staring at lua code too long, thanks @jhsoby
[14:20:18] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> It is because all the pages are redirects to Lista de rodovias estaduais do Rio Grande do Sul. When you transclude a redirect page, you also transclude the page it redirects to (if they didn't, moving templates would be a nightmare) (re @chicocvenancio: that explains why the pages are transcluded in their own talk pages but not fully explains why the Lista de rodovias estaduais do Rio Grande do Sul is transcluded into the highwa
[14:20:45] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> It is because all the pages are redirects to Lista de rodovias estaduais do Rio Grande do Sul. When you transclude a redirect page, you also transclude the page they redirect to (if they didn't, moving templates would be a nightmare) (re @chicocvenancio: that explains why the pages are transcluded in their own talk pages but not fully explains why the Lista de rodovias estaduais do Rio Grande do Sul is transcluded into the highw
[14:21:15] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> ha, thanks. Their talk pages should be deleted then... (re @jhsoby: It is because all the pages are redirects to Lista de rodovias estaduais do Rio Grande do Sul. When you transclude a redirect page, you also transclude the page they redirect to (if they didn't, moving templates would be a nightmare))
[17:01:22] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> Now that in Quarry you have to connect to databases differently, how do you connect to database with multipart language code, such as zh-yue or nds-nl? I tried nds-nlwiki_p, nds_nlwiki_p, and ndsnlwiki_p, and none of them work.
[17:02:08] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <amire80> On the shell, sql nds_nlwiki works.
[17:02:40] <Reedy>	 I feel I saw a bug about this already
[17:20:37] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/2fe5ff27/file_3810.jpg
[17:20:47] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> How to set up pictures like this on my wiki
[17:21:22] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Kshovo> @jhsoby
[17:26:27] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> @Kshovo Seems like they are just using MediaWiki:Common.css and templates to achieve that. Check out https://runescape.wiki/w/MediaWiki:Common.css (specifically all the stuff starting with .mainpage-) and the source code of the main page at https://runescape.wiki/?action=edit
[17:26:27] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> (That is a nice-looking wiki, I must say.)
[17:56:41] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> WOOP WOOP WOOP https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2021-March/094400.html
[17:56:55] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> > Wikimedia remote hackathon on May 22/23!
[17:56:55] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <lucaswerkmeister> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2021
[18:14:38] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Auregann> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/e58d9909/mp4.mp4
[18:24:20] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <Neslihan> https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/bridgebot/6d9cfcca/file_3813_tgs.webp
[19:39:56] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> hey mediawiki language peeps. Am I correct in assuming mediawiki looks for custom system message in fallback languages before going to translatewiki?
[19:39:57] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> IE for pt-br it would first display a custom pt message than using translatewiki's pt-br translation
[19:40:25] <Reedy>	 MW doesn't "go to translatewiki"
[19:40:42] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> no, it doesn't as far as i know (re @chicocvenancio: hey mediawiki language peeps. Am I correct in assuming mediawiki looks for custom system message in fallback languages before going to translatewiki?
[19:40:43] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> IE for pt-br it would first display a custom pt message than using translatewiki's pt-br translation)
[19:41:00] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> well, unless English is excepted from such a rule
[19:41:10] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> @amire80 can probably clarify
[19:41:45] <Reedy>	 pt and pt-br fallback to each other, then if the other doesn't have it, goes back to en
[19:42:32] <Reedy>	 but yes, if there's a local override of a message onwiki, that will take priority
[19:43:31] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> Reedy: the question is: if the wiki language is pt, and the pt message has an override, will users with pt-br see that override, or will they see the default pt-br message instead?
[19:44:04] <Reedy>	 it will depend whether the message is translated into pt-br
[19:44:13] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> @Reedy system messages are customized in the mediawiki namespace. Will a pt override at https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Dellogpage be shown for pt-br or will the default pt-br system message be used?
[19:44:22] <Reedy>	 I know they are
[19:44:50] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> assuming we delete https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Dellogpage/pt-br....
[19:45:25] <Reedy>	 	"dellogpage": "Registro de eliminações",
[19:45:27] <Reedy>	 that's in pt-br
[19:45:44] <Reedy>	 so if you delete the local customisation, it'll first fallback to the message defined inside MW before going to pt
[19:46:10] <Reedy>	 and as there's a translation in MW for it, it won't actually fallback to pt
[19:46:57] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> is redirecting or transcluding a good ideia for custom messages?
[19:47:23] <Reedy>	 I don't think it works
[19:47:34] <Reedy>	 This is dejavu to an en-gb message issue I saw
[19:47:39] <Reedy>	 let me see if I can find the task again
[19:47:45] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <chicocvenancio> IE, changing MediaWiki:Dellogpage/pt-br to {{MediaWiki:Dellogpage}}?
[19:48:01] <Reedy>	 or was the problem parameters in those cases
[19:48:25] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> fwiw, $1 and $2 work like {{{1}}} and {{{2}}} in MediaWiki messages
[19:48:45] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> (Reddy prolly knows that, but others may not)
[19:48:51] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> (Reedy prolly knows that, but others may not)
[19:49:49] <Reedy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247550 is what I was thinking of
[19:50:10] <Reedy>	 Hmm. So {{MediaWiki:Blockipsuccesstext}} works fine, but it doesn't automagically pass through parameters as you might expect
[19:51:53] <Reedy>	 But as to what MW will do in that case when there's a defined translation...
[19:52:59] <Reedy>	 Best answer is try it and see :P
[19:59:51] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> this is only for {{int:…}}, not for {{MediaWiki:…}} unfortunately (re @jhsoby: fwiw, $1 and $2 work like {{{1}}} and {{{2}}} in MediaWiki messages)
[19:59:55] <wm-bb>	 [telegram] <jhsoby> /delete@wikilinksbot