[13:01:49] bawolff: RE: Echo RSS, what kind of feed do you have in mind? Are there any platforms or web apps that expose personal chat and/or notifs via RSS? [13:03:06] We do expose user contribs, RC, and watchlist via RSS, which seems a more typical RSS use case. [13:31:01] Krinkle: I would consider echo basically the same as watchlist [13:31:23] I'm not personally advocating for adding RSS support, i just find it kind of surprising more people aren't asking for it [13:32:31] Hm.. okay. Well, I've never heard of someone using RSS for ephemeral personal notifs. I consume a ton of feeds, but I wouldn't even think to expect or want that. In my feed reader I'm more consuming information and content, not emails or things aimed at me personally. [13:32:49] Email, yes, but we support that already. [13:33:49] I'm thinking of the user experience, like, you'd have BBC: headline, YouTube: video, Myblog: some post, Wikipedia: thanked you for your edit. [13:33:56] in the same feed to page through? [13:34:40] I guess i kind of think of echo as mostly - "Someone replied to a comment you are watching" which to me feels very watchlist like [13:35:30] to the extent that it's on your watchlist, that would come through the watchlist feed already. It's an interesting intersection indeed. [13:35:46] Maybe the fact that watchlist is a feed is the weird part [13:36:02] I do wonder if people actually want that as a workflow. I don't think RSS is dead, never was, especially not in our ecosystem. I just don't know of people using it for personalised workflows like that. [13:36:35] I guess push notifications would fit the more common workflow [13:37:08] The fact that we've gone a very long time without an echo rss feed with very few complaints suggest that people probably don't want it [13:37:30] RSS can def form the basis of real-time notifs with fairly cheap polling over HTTP 304 as various feed reader apps and cloud services do. [13:38:39] Yeah, I think that says more about the use case that RSS per-se, though. I think RSS tends to be used to consume content, where you'd be able to mostly stay within the feed reader. Noting also that you generlly can't "delete" items in a feed reader, and I'd get annoyed if I can't delete noise like notifs that I've already dealt with. [13:39:09] watchlist certainly for the more active contributor tends to be an active, not passive, activity for WIkipedians I think? [13:39:34] so if you're already going to be on the site for a while reviewing edits, checking history doing research, you're not really in the feed reader anymore. [13:40:04] but if you're not an active editor or only watch a few pages, it can be a nice way to prompt yourself to visit the site by finding out about edits to your watched pages. [13:40:20] RSS is great at that sort of thing. [13:43:04] but also, it's a mind space where it's not me personally that's needed. It's optional. It's content. It's for anyone. [13:43:28] whereas someone talkkng to me directly, that's somewhat less optional socially, hence I'd want that on email, as something I wouldn't just en-mass mark as read from time to time. [13:44:22] it can totally work though, we already have a JSON API for it, reformatting that as an XML feed with HTTP 304 support for cheap polling in feed readers, totally doable. but yeah, Not sure there's an audience for it yet. [19:13:40] Near Death Experiencer(Ghost People) Chat Site- Secure. http://hant.us.to