[10:29:22] Hello, sorry for such minor question, but after installing last MW, adding my user in sysop/bureaucrat/admin, and after being logged, I really don't see how to manage the wiki. [10:40:30] Yeah, I clearly does NOT see where it is :/. Even googling does not help, I probably miss something but what ? [10:46:23] what you're missing is your explanation for *what* "manage the wiki" means to you [10:46:59] well, add account, sets parameters, modify anything without using a file or shell. A web admin interface. [10:47:56] MW doesn't have and never has has an "admin control panel" akin to many a popular forum software etc.; *some* such management related things _can_ be done via the web UI but a lot of the sysadmin-y things still require manually editing LocalSettings.php [10:48:20] ok, that was becoming my guess, using LocalSettings.php. I see, thanks I'll try that out. [10:48:50] you can create new accounts via the Special:CreateAccount page and add them to user groups via the Special:UserRights page (if and when you're logged in as a user who has such privileges) [10:49:12] but things like manipulating configuration variable values or installing new extensions or skins definitely require editing LocalSettings.php :-/ [10:49:30] I guess there might be some extensions doing such ? I'm ok with that way, but other users ? I do not think so ! :) [10:52:43] not really; some wiki farms have such tools tailored for their specific platforms, and "vanilla" installations once had https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Configure but that got archived years ago as it was woefully broken and unmaintained...sadly the biggest users (incl. WMF wikis) of MediaWiki are also the most tech-savvy so they have less of a need for a web GUI. but I for one agree with the overall idea, but at the same time I gotta say I've been [10:52:44] waiting for well over a decade for that to happen :D [10:53:22] lol [10:53:24] i see. [10:54:00] that is bothering me, because if we use that and tomorrow i get hit by a truck, basically that would means nobody would be able to manage it instead of me. I'm the main tech person of the project. [10:57:59] and I think it's great that you're considering the bus factor for projects you maintain! that said...well, we live in an imperfect world, don't we? for a web config GUI to happen, it'd need a *lot* of work and that's the _easier_ part, the harder part is the..."social" buy-in. (speaking from experience: years ago, with a fellow developer, I tried to get a neat, useful feature added to core. it currently exists and existed then and continues to exist as an [10:57:59] extension but it'd be more useful for everyone to have it in MW core. there was no social buy-in from the relevant core devs so the patch ended up bitrotting in gerrit and I ended up disappointed and demotivated.) [19:11:11] It's not in the guide but what do I add to local php for cosmos to display global tags