[11:37:08] > [11:37:09] A MediaWiki has been set up at https://wiki2025.debian.org [11:37:15] https://salsa.debian.org/debian/grow-your-ideas/-/issues/2#note_630101 [11:37:59] <-- finally some good news in this thread after 4 years :D [11:40:40] hello Nemo_bis [11:42:21] looks like someone is going to have to do migration of content soon [11:43:57] hi there; i'm the author of Kiji, a free and open src caching server like memcache. I wrote the 'KijiBagOStuff.php' include for mediawiki and placed it at "./includes/libs/objectcache". It works, however i don't know whether i should call the functions such as «$this->updateOpStats(self::METRIC_OP_GET....» and what their purpose is. At the moment, i am not calling them from my code and [11:43:59] everything works. What is the consequence of not calling those "stats" functions? (if there is any). Where can i find some documentation about how those statistical functions are expected to work? [13:48:18] gry: yeah or at least they'll try [13:58:50] Nemo_bis: we'll see... the big problem with that is that the current wiki wiki content has no explicit license :/ [14:04:12] taavi: hmm well but it is not changing host so whatever allows the current wiki to exist can also allow its transfer [20:09:59] i will retry to pose the same question maybe tomorrow [20:11:05] tradar: without having looked at the code, my guess is for metrics collection (e.g. prometheus) [20:11:21] to check on cache hit rates, health of the cache server, etc. [20:12:21] where can i look at those stored information? is there a SpecialPage for that? [20:12:24] also, you're probably better off packaging your thing as an extension rather than adding it intermixed with core files. The latter is liable to be lost on upgrades, particularly if you (or the person you ship it to) follows the upgrade guidance of extracting the new version to a fresh directory [20:13:30] tradar: nothing built-in. you'd need to configure mediawiki to point to some external stats collector, and then have some sort of dashboard hooked into that collector as well [20:13:41] by default it probably no-ops due to lack of collector [20:15:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Stats [20:20:40] it looks so complex moonmoon :o) Could you add the support for stats to my KijiBagOStuff.php addon? At the moment, you are right, i just ship the php file without a real package/extension, so it's going to be lost on upgrades. It's a thing to put in the todo list. Also, Prometheus is new to me but i'll look into it [20:45:08] well if you or anyone wants to help me with this thing, i'm leaving the link to the installation instructions i wrote so far: https://tradar.org/projects/kiji/integrations/mediawiki.php and there is the link to the download pages there. So that you can test the program, the php extension and the mediawiki addon. If possible leave me a Memo here or send me an email with the suggestions to [20:45:10] complete the addon (because the addon works at the moment but without the stats support)