[00:02:14] @Void's back? But I don't see him here. [00:06:54] perhaps he's in invisible mode 🕵️ [00:16:34] Well, I was also on invisible mode, but yeah, looks like Void handled it. [00:26:20] Now I will wait for @Doug's arrival. And by the way Doug, that LeedoMan74 account was handled by Reception123. I just want him to not resort to sockpuppetry and appeal his lock to you and/or other Stewards and then he can be part of our wikis again. [00:50:14] hello [00:50:15] [tell] dmehus: 2021-10-14 - 21:55:16UTC tell dmehus to look into 김소련 사실상 4페이즈 based on circumvential evidence of lock evasion from this diff: https://onlyone.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:%EA%B9%80%EC%86%8C%EB%A0%A8_%EC%82%AC%EC%8B%A4%EC%83%81_4%ED%8E%98%EC%9D%B4%EC%A6%88&oldid=19425 [00:54:29] @Doug Ah, so you finally returned. [00:57:43] [[Special:UserRights/Dmehus@uglylogoswiki]] [00:57:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/Dmehus%40uglylogoswiki [00:57:44] [url] User rights - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [00:57:53] But anyway, could you look into the one I told the MirahezeBot to tell you to look into first? It's another lock evasion made by someone attempting to circumvent a recent global lock. But first, please deal with that Polish LTA who came back as Gear and Deedo886,. [00:58:21] $log Nuked LTA-added vandalism page creations on [[mh:uglylogos|uglylogoswiki]] [00:58:21] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/uglylogos [00:58:28] Saved item "Nuked LTA-added vandalism page creations on [[mh:uglylogos|uglylogoswiki]]" [00:58:28] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/uglylogos [00:58:31] Oh, never mind, it seems like you deleted the pages. [00:59:11] But do investigate them and make the necessary locks when finished [01:09:33] That Maddie person is a bit suspicious [01:10:01] @Agent Are you suggesting SperosDurrell might be behind it? [01:10:17] darkmatterman450: not at all, no [01:10:23] Oh. [01:10:28] but they do look suspicious [01:10:34] they're adding a bunch of talk page messages [01:11:29] That's something that SperosDurrell would've done. And to think @dmehus has guided the user onto User Accounts policy about a week or so ago. [01:15:25] their speech pattern is different though [01:15:43] Perhaps, it is. [01:16:56] this ‎MaddieZiegler person has left 3 messages on 3 different people's talk pages saying "hey, i'm Maddie Ziegler and I like to dance" [01:17:04] how strange [01:17:57] That's quite bizarre if you ask me. [01:19:29] yeah looks like just immaturity to me [01:21:44] Hey @Doug, not sure if you received the message about a possible lock evasion on the onlyonewiki, but the user(s) in question have evaded their locks: https://onlyone.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:%EA%B9%80%EC%86%8C%EB%A0%A8_%EC%82%AC%EC%8B%A4%EC%83%81_4%ED%8E%98%EC%9D%B4%EC%A6%88&oldid=19425 (김소련 사실상 4페이즈) [01:21:44] https://jayuvandal.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:%EC%97%94%ED%8E%84&oldid=23281 (엔펄) Redirect left by DFLE Army: https://jayuvandal.miraheze.org/wiki/%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:%EC%97%94%ED%8E%84 [01:21:45] [url] 사용자:김소련 사실상 4페이즈 - 온니원위키 | onlyone.miraheze.org [01:21:45] [url] 사용자:엔펄 - 자유반달위키 | jayuvandal.miraheze.org [01:21:46] [url] 사용자:Angel Pearl - 자유반달위키 | jayuvandal.miraheze.org [01:30:00] DarkMatterMan4500, I think that is the screenshot one and from awhile ago, that's why I've not looked into further [03:23:49] Our favorite vandal has returned: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Do+you+like+uglydolls%3F [03:23:51] [url] Global account information for Do you like uglydolls? - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [03:28:01] :BanHammerMH: [09:05:22] @Doug Ah, okay. [09:08:40] But do you plan on looking into it further with one of them today, and not from the screenshot that was taken from awhile ago? [09:39:57] @DarkMatterMan4500: What's going on with Hako? [09:50:37] Apparently they found their way into Miraheze, then was being accused of illegal acts (which nobody has verified to anyone about it at all), amongst such stupidity. [09:55:46] Do you know any of the accounts he's potentially compromised? [09:57:29] @RhinosF1 That I don't know. I was slightly confused by what they were talking about, from this diff: https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Stewards%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=206764&diffmode=source They didn't specify which accounts Hako has potentially compromised. [09:57:32] [url] Difference between revisions of "Stewards' noticeboard" - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [09:58:03] I've asked them to get in touch [09:58:21] T&S are gonna have a look at technical data [09:59:34] Recently, I've had @Doug investigate the onlyonewiki, because of some potential violations of the User accounts policy and/or potential lock evasion because they've been getting locked as of lately. [10:00:32] ok, that doesn't seem related [10:01:16] Yes, but I was recently contacted by Hako. In fact just this morning. [10:02:06] what did they say? [10:03:08] All they said to me was: "This Wiki Closed Pls...". [10:03:27] The link they provided redirected me to the onlyonewiki. [10:04:20] https://2021.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90%ED%86%A0%EB%A1%A0:DarkMatterMan4500&oldid=35 From this diff if you wanted the proof. [10:04:22] [url] 사용자토론:DarkMatterMan4500 - 2021위키 | 2021.miraheze.org [10:07:17] ok [11:02:31] [[Special:CentralAuth/Do you like uglydolls? blank reasons are not answers]] Seriously? -_- And I see @RhinosF1 has taken the liberty of blocking the account (If only if he could just lock the account). [11:02:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Do_you_like_uglydolls%3f_blank_reasons_are_not_answers [11:02:32]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Do_you_like_uglydolls%3F_blank_reasons_are_not_answers [11:02:32] [url] Global account information for Do you like uglydolls? blank reasons are not answers - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [11:02:34] [url] Global account information for Do you like uglydolls? blank reasons are not answers - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [11:11:31] Have you had a look at this particular wiki? https://thebluepeople.fandom.com/wiki/Abigblueworld# [11:11:32] [url] Abigblueworld | Abigblueworld Wiki | Fandom | thebluepeople.fandom.com [11:11:54] I'd consider it a close connection to the long term abuser with that particular behavior. [11:12:50] It makes sense. [11:23:01] Given that -abigblueworld- has been becoming a fucking nuisance on Miraheze, and so much work had to be done to prevent the user from causing anymore disruption. [12:02:08] [[Special:CentralAuth/No reas0n given or blank reas0ns are not allowed]] Ergh. -_- [12:02:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/No_reas0n_given_or_blank_reas0ns_are_not_allowed [12:02:09]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/No_reas0n_given_or_blank_reas0ns_are_not_allowed [12:02:09] [url] Global account information for No reas0n given or blank reas0ns are not allowed - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:02:10] [url] Global account information for No reas0n given or blank reas0ns are not allowed - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:09:40] [[Special:CentralAuth/Darkmattarman, stop bl00cking me for no reason, or KYS]] Okay, now this one has a threat in it, wanting me to go kill myself. [12:09:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Darkmattarman%2c_stop_bl00cking_me_for_no_reason%2c_or_KYS [12:09:40]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Darkmattarman,_stop_bl00cking_me_for_no_reason,_or_KYS [12:09:41] [url] Global account information for Darkmattarman, stop bl00cking me for no reason, or KYS - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:09:43] [url] Global account information for Darkmattarman, stop bl00cking me for no reason, or KYS - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:23:03] [[Special:CentralAuth/DARKY! STOP GIVING ME BLANK REASONS AND ANSWER IT!]] Ugh, I'm quite fed up with this. [12:23:03] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/DARKY!_STOP_GIVING_ME_BLANK_REASONS_AND_ANSWER_IT! [12:23:03]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/DARKY!_STOP_GIVING_ME_BLANK_REASONS_AND_ANSWER_IT! [12:23:16] [url] Global account information for DARKY! STOP GIVING ME BLANK REASONS AND ANSWER IT - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:23:28] [url] Global account information for DARKY! STOP GIVING ME BLANK REASONS AND ANSWER IT - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:44:06] looks totally normal to me >.> [12:44:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/898914195096088597/unknown.png [12:44:36] I wish @Doug was here to see this. [12:44:58] He will see it whenever he arrives. [12:45:04] Yep. [12:45:20] In the meantime we'll just have to await any sufficiently privileged user. [12:45:35] Was this the one who comes from all around New Jersey, or am I thinking of someone else? [12:45:47] You're thinking of someone else. [12:46:04] Ah. So this would be an open proxy abuser? [12:46:29] Yes, obviously so. [12:47:17] I suppose I should be impressed about the user's ability to find new proxies. I'm not sure there's a proper service that offers as much flexibility as this abuser has been using, but I know it can be done with enough manual skills. [12:47:42] And I'm getting sick of this user bypassing bans. We need to prevent this user from creating new accounts and abusing open proxies. [12:48:23] There is not a reliable way to do so if the user is able to clean their computer, spoof their mac and spoof their IP reliably enough, and the tricks to do the first three to maximum extent would put Miraheze in a dangerous position of control I would not want to see. [12:49:11] But what are we going to do to stop this person in their tracks? [12:49:14] I'm afraid unless some intermediate is found, waiting them out and even just not giving them attention (treating them like a routine 'oh it's this user, blocked') is the best course. And indeed, if you're that sick of them I'm afraid they're achieving their job. [12:49:41] Yeah, but the answers are definitely not what they're getting.' [12:49:57] So what I'll tell you is that perhaps a change of mindset is the best way to win here. Instead of trying to destroy them, destroy their power over your stress level by treating them as something to eliminate routinely. Do not let them have the slightest concern even in here, just a routine 'oop this user showed up' [12:50:33] Perhaps even a little section or thread where you can just drop links to each account they make and then move along from there. Routine proxy ban, account ban, and unless we have better tech at our disposal, moving on. [12:50:50] You mean in the block reasons. [12:51:17] In the end most users cannot win a game of time, especially if you treat them as irrelevant. The rare exception applies, but they are rare enough that it can be accepted. I mean as far as raw mindset. [12:51:39] Block reason can be a lazy 'long term abuse' and then again, just moving on. [12:51:56] That's right. I should've done this already. [12:51:58] Have a little workflow to just revert them on the spot and report them, and again just not paying attention. [12:52:23] Because make no mistake, it is the attention and the fact they can do it that they are seeking here. [12:52:42] And that should destroy their confidence to keep coming back like playing a game of whack-a-mole. [12:53:36] Indeed. If nobody cares, eventually they would (I hope) move on with their life. But the trick is not banking on it, because you would have already long moved on yourself. [12:54:04] Yes. If -abigblueworld- were to stop doing this and realize what they're doing is pretty stupid. [12:54:42] That's not our problem, really. There's no diplomacy. Only their routine elimination, especially when their behavior is so obvious. The gumball character would be more worth the time, if only because the antics are slightly more subtle. [12:57:02] [[Special:CentralAuth/DARKY! STOP BLOCKING ME WITHOUT ANSWERING!]] Well, here goes nothing. [12:57:02] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/DARKY!_STOP_BLOCKING_ME_WITHOUT_ANSWERING! [12:57:03]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/DARKY!_STOP_BLOCKING_ME_WITHOUT_ANSWERING! [12:57:15] [url] Global account information for DARKY! STOP BLOCKING ME WITHOUT ANSWERING - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [12:57:29] [url] Global account information for DARKY! STOP BLOCKING ME WITHOUT ANSWERING - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [13:21:43] https://2021.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:Hako&oldid=56 This user doesn't even realize that Owen has already investigated and has determined that there wasn't any evidence of accounts being compromised by Hako. -_- [13:21:44] [url] 사용자:Hako - 2021위키 | 2021.miraheze.org [14:53:18] Ugh, I'm being stalked by that same LTA who demands us to give them custom block reasons all across the wikis. [15:40:20] .mhca UltraToons [15:40:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/UltraToons [15:40:35] And another sock made by the Polish LTA has came back again. -_- [15:47:55] https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/w/index.php?oldid=32956&rcid=54478 This again?! [15:47:56] [url] DarkMatterMan4500 is a pedophile - Incredible Characters Wiki | greatcharacters.miraheze.org [15:53:55] Another one: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Lightning+McQueen [15:53:56] [url] Global account information for Lightning McQueen - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [15:54:41] I'm currently dealing with another LTA which was a pain in the ass to deal with. [15:57:43] @CVT since I believe no one's pinged them yet ^ [16:51:00] If void is around will someone tell him to read sre ema [16:51:01] Email [16:55:42] I could [16:57:18] groggily pulls up webmail [16:58:52] Someone wants a rename [16:59:12] 👀 Seems like I dont need to [18:15:54] $log Rolled back own [[w:WP:DUMMY|DUMMY]] edit, to prevent wiki from reclosing with the next nightly run, on [[mh:deepadaptation|deepadaptationwiki]] following its [[m:Special:Permalink/206854#request for reopening deepadaptation.miraheze.org|requested undeletion]] [18:15:54] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:DUMMY https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/deepadaptation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/206854#request_for_reopening_deepadaptation.miraheze.org [18:15:55] [wikipedia] WP:DUMMY | "A dummy edit is a slight change in a page's wikitext that has no effect on the rendered page but allows an editor to save a useful edit summary. By contrast, a null edit does not modify the wikitext, does not allow the editor to leave an edit summary, and does not appear in the page's edit history." [18:15:56] [url] International Wikinews Writing Contest/log - Meta | meta.wikimedia.org [18:16:04] Saved item "Rolled back own [[w:WP:DUMMY|DUMMY]] edit, to prevent wiki from reclosing with the next nightly run, on [[mh:deepadaptation|deepadaptationwiki]] following its [[m:Special:Permalink/206854#request for reopening deepadaptation.miraheze.org|requested undeletion]]" [18:16:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:DUMMY https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/deepadaptation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Permalink/206854#request_for_reopening_deepadaptation.miraheze.org [18:16:05] [wikipedia] WP:DUMMY | "A dummy edit is a slight change in a page's wikitext that has no effect on the rendered page but allows an editor to save a useful edit summary. By contrast, a null edit does not modify the wikitext, does not allow the editor to leave an edit summary, and does not appear in the page's edit history." [18:16:05] [url] International Wikinews Writing Contest/log - Meta | meta.wikimedia.org [18:45:43] @Doug I see you're back. [18:50:13] yep :) [18:58:49] [[Special:UserRights/Dmehus@awfulmovieswiki]] [18:58:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/Dmehus%40awfulmovieswiki [18:58:51] [url] User rights - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:09:24] @Doug You can disregard the screenshot that was mentioned in that diff, but this one caught my attention: https://onlyone.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:%EA%B9%80%EC%86%8C%EB%A0%A8_%EC%82%AC%EC%8B%A4%EC%83%81_4%ED%8E%98%EC%9D%B4%EC%A6%88&oldid=19425 Also, this one right there was disproven by Owen this morning, and it just has baseless accusations: [19:09:25] https://2021.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=%EC%82%AC%EC%9A%A9%EC%9E%90:Hako&oldid=56 [19:09:25] [url] 사용자:김소련 사실상 4페이즈 - 온니원위키 | onlyone.miraheze.org [19:09:26] [url] 사용자:Hako - 2021위키 | 2021.miraheze.org [19:16:28] * dmehus looking [19:17:06] re: your second point, a little clarification. Owen said it didn't warrant T&S action (I didn't think it would). [19:22:51] The first one is pretty clear lock evasion, as the first one is a continuation of the word Kim Soviet. [19:46:33] [Special:User rights/Dmehus@2021wiki]] [19:46:34]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:User_rights/Dmehus@2021wiki?action=edit&redlink=1 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/Dmehus@onlyonewiki [19:46:35] [url] No such special page - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:46:36] [url] User rights - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:49:29] @Doug Since you haven't logged both of your Userrights logs like you usually do these days, I thought I'd add it. [19:51:44] 😕 [19:52:02] Let me guess: Inconclusive? [19:52:43] Ever since July of this year, you've always logged which wiki you're investigating. [19:53:54] Wait, I'll look at the edit summary. [19:53:58] nah, that's just because it's an easy way for me to load up the special page in a new web browser tab 🙃 [19:54:43] So you're still investigating the 2021wiki? [19:55:13] nope [19:55:15] done [19:55:23] and likely socks have been locked :) [19:56:02] Hako was a sock this whole time? [19:58:21] I'm not surprised at all. [20:37:27] yeah [20:40:50] Not surprised. Given the similar vandalism I've seen from that account was quite compelling. [20:48:57] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/899036212512325662/message.txt [20:51:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/899036727920963644/Screenshot_2021-10-16_Special_Contributions_Iron_Sword_23.png [21:18:48] Create a [[Phabricator]] task [21:18:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [21:18:48]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [21:18:49] [url] Phabricator - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [21:18:50] [url] Phabricator - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [21:21:27] @Doug What about these ones? [21:41:16] hrm? [21:44:38] https://www.polandballwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Rwandaball&diff=prev&oldid=1268012&diffmode=source (Idontcaremansorry) https://www.polandballwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Bulgariaball&diff=prev&oldid=1225772&diffmode=source (Rockman919191) These ones. [21:44:42] [url] Difference between revisions of "Rwandaball" - Polandball Wiki | www.polandballwiki.com [21:44:43] [url] Difference between revisions of "Bulgariaball" - Polandball Wiki | www.polandballwiki.com [21:46:31] DarkMatterMan4500, will look in a bit. Can you look at PoopyMayonnaise and their local blocks? See Meta's RC...I've processed their request for a global rename, so their username is likely not in contravention of Qualitipedia's local policies. :) [21:49:43] [[Special:UserRights/Dmehus@polandballwiki]] [21:49:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/Dmehus%40polandballwiki [21:49:44] [url] User rights - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [21:50:22] Okay [21:52:21] However, I'm currently away from my laptop, so I will look when I come home. [22:05:10] okay, thanks :) [22:05:18] and done your `polandballwiki` report [22:09:27] So Rickman was related, but Idontcaremansorry wasn't? [22:55:32] Oh, so Idontcaremansorry was related.