[01:32:29] I would keep a watch on this pleasant bundle. https://nulwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:Viril.Feline.Wyyzrd. [01:32:30] [url] User talk:Viril.Feline.Wyyzrd - NulWiki | nulwiki.miraheze.org [01:33:30] The frankness on that page (as well as its home page) is certainly honest about its intentions, where the wiki request was not exactly lying, but may somewhat stretch the terms of 'not entirely serious'. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/21313 [01:33:32] [url] Wiki requests queue - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [01:34:47] Very much some ED and related vibes, I would say. [01:36:03] So they tricked us, eh? Well, shame on them. The description said something about communities, Russian and Ukrainian chatrooms and influencers. But it looks like that's not the case. I fucking hate liars like them. [01:36:06] The link has a . at the end, you'll need to add it in if you're looking via Discord and it does not properly offer the destination. [01:37:22] So, what you're telling me is: They're trying to make themselves look like Encyclopedia Dramatica? [01:37:44] Principally I am telling you to examine their conversation, as I believe it speaks for itself. [01:38:20] I would hope that Russian and Ukranian internet culture can do better than attempting to recruit nazis and people to be as offensive as humanly possible, though. [01:38:24] Well, they're in for a real treat if I see anything relating to (you know what it is). [01:38:34] Same here. [04:13:43] Raidarr, DarkMatterMan4500, yeah I'd keep a close eye on wiki request # 21313. I personally would've sent that back for additional details on content [04:14:14] Don't be afraid to use "Needs more details," then add additional comments describing what details are needed, DarkMatterMan4500 [04:14:57] DarkMatterMan4500, looking at your report [08:34:57] Welcome Joseph. If you need to report spam or abuse, please feel free to notify any of the voiced (+v) users, if it contains personal information you can pm them, or email us at cvt [at] miraheze.org [10:20:44] Which report? [11:11:12] Ah, DMM forgot he reported something ;) [11:12:25] He's also made a number of them, though I assume dmehus means the latest. [11:13:06] Probably. [11:13:35] Yeah [11:13:54] That's how I keep the #cvt channel up to speed with my reports. [11:14:05] Yeah [11:14:23] Wait does the cvt log relay to IRC? Or something [11:14:34] Yes, they do. [11:14:42] Heh, you're here [11:15:01] What's the channel darkmatterman450 ? [11:15:10] @ugochimobi Obviously, yes, I am. [11:15:22] #miraheze-cvt. [11:15:34] That's where we are now [11:15:36] I meant the feed [11:15:54] Oh yes, the #miraheze-cvt-feed. [11:16:40] Please resend without the dot (.) [11:17:30] Dude, it works just fine, even if I add the dot. (Talking about the link to the #miraheze-cvt-feed). [11:18:13] Jesus Christ DMM it doesn't work <3 [11:18:26] Let's just drop it for now. [11:18:30] It adds the closing bracked and the period [11:18:50] I don't want this to turn into a big fight. [11:18:56] #miraheze-cvt-feed [11:19:19] You're always fighting, and no one is fighting you. Lol [11:20:07] Yeah, fighting cross-wiki abuse, vandalism, and sockpuppetry. [11:20:53] https://polcompball.miraheze.org/w/index.php?oldid=132037&rcid=40272 Okay, what the hell am I reading here? [11:20:54] [url] User talk:Palostius - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [11:22:42] Oo, action needs to be taken. [11:23:30] https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log/comments So would the recent comments from some of these weird users. [11:23:31] [url] Comments log - Polcompball Wiki | polcompball.miraheze.org [11:24:47] Yeah [11:26:30] Tbh, the function of this channel could be expedited with certain automatic reporting functions; report a thing, add a description, expand so anyone can use a similar process and messages appear here with controls to mark as handled, in progress, etc [11:27:03] However I'm unsure how to execute it in an aesthetic way that would bridge nicely between discord, irc and a possible obligatory wiki-side version of the idea for less chat savvy users [11:28:56] Tbf, it'd be nice [11:29:11] But how possible can it be? [11:33:02] It's very very possible if an efficient method to execute can be made. I think the main prerequisites are, 1. hook, so irc/discord can both balance report handling and offer only necessary reports to newly entered cvt users; 2. Visual parity, so the result looks decent on IRC and discord. This is the hardest part for me to theorize, as a very aesthetic way to manage via Discord (emoji use) is not so effective via IRC; [11:33:02] 3. A possible wiki-side form (meta or cvt wiki) that allows entries to be posted as well; 4. Overall design in such a way that it is most convenient to current CVT handlers, which means any tweaks as necessary above since the idea is supposed to reduce the flood of messages and bouncing bot relays of links, plus potentially redundant pings for the same issues. It's an idea I think must be considered for Miraheze growth; it is not [11:33:03] essential at the moment, but efficiency in handling vandalism would be required as activity rises and more people get involved in the process. [11:33:48] Primarily I think the idea requires interested parties for technically executing it before anything else. [13:29:53] @raidarr nice ideas tbh with you [14:33:03] I am very sorry about PCB users being weird, it's kind of baked in. [14:33:42] I think you just have to be extremely neurotic or a teenager with no friends to care about what essentially boils down to funny political memes this much lol. [14:35:30] also they're redditors (usually), doesn't help. [14:37:35] I've been watching the feed since, only to see childish behaviour there, lol [14:40:02] It would be fine if a) there was more basic civility and b) they had more willing local moderation tbh [14:40:47] Because except for exceptional cases, 'on the ball' local moderation would dramatically reduce the need for global (and thus this channel) involvement [14:42:11] yeah [14:48:13] 'on the ball' [14:48:15] lol [16:24:56] @raidarr true [16:26:27] Well, at least it's not PCBA lol [16:26:33] heh [16:26:53] yes, I am unfortunately knee-deep in that one [16:27:00] pcba is really the trick :p [16:27:14] Ballmedia has tried to moderate PCB, dunno how well that's going though [16:27:27] PCBA though is a whole different can of worms [16:27:39] they did install a slur filter on the comments I think [16:28:01] though I guess "based" "cringe" "LARP" an "soy" were evidently not included [16:28:06] heh yeah, users found a way to bypass it [16:28:15] I think it only includes the n word and f slur [16:28:27] based/cringe/larp/soy aren't slurs technically [16:28:43] I'm only involved in PCBA so I don't really have any influence over what happens in PCB [16:29:07] PCBA refusing to act itself in a meaningful way or allow parties to do the acting is the key problem I see [16:30:01] yeah, its a weird tug of war between "freedom!" and not getting erased [16:30:25] Metbol did get blocked though, so it's not complete inaction [16:30:38] its just trying to modify things makes the users freak out [16:30:59] It's an oddity for sure. [16:31:19] Ballmedia has tried to help them to no avail if I'm not mistaken but they refused under the guise that they didn't like the "mass" blockings on PCB (which in reality were like 3 blocks + some Steward actions) [16:31:37] The users themselves need to learn to civilize, else their resistance will be futile either way. [16:31:59] Getting rid of the comments on PCBA was probably a good thing, because then I can just see when people modify the talk pages and look at that. [16:32:00] Hmm, are comments still disabled on PCBA? [16:32:06] yes [16:32:06] Ah, I see [16:32:20] Really, all you need to do is enable an AF to prevent some key terms from being used [16:32:35] those which are problematic and used frequently in CoC-violating situations [16:32:44] Namely any slurs [16:33:12] AF? [16:33:43] Abuse Filter [16:33:57] ohhhhhhhh [16:34:06] It stops users from doing certain actions if they contain certain things like certain words [23:12:05] Vandalism-only account: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Shish+kabab [23:12:07] [url] Global account information for Shish kabab - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [23:12:39] I was just about to report this account until you went ahead and did it. There's something fishy going on with this account, and it's the way they are behaving. [23:32:29] @Doug I think I notice a connection between Shish kabab and C0k4ndb4llt0rtur3, the one that Reception123 has locked earlier: Similar vandalism on separate wikis are incredibly remarkable. https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=The_Nutcracker_in_3D&oldid=160270 https://awfulmovies.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=The_Nutcracker_in_3D&diff=prev&oldid=160269&unhide=1 (Shish kabab) [23:32:29] https://awesomegames.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Persona_5&diff=prev&oldid=146163 https://awesomegames.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Dark_Souls&diff=prev&oldid=146165 https://awesomegames.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Super_Smash_Bros._Ultimate&diff=prev&oldid=146167 https://awesomegames.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Overwatch&diff=prev&oldid=146161 [23:32:30] https://awesomegames.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim&diff=prev&oldid=146164 (C0k4ndb4llt0rtur3) As you can see, the vandalism from both of them are exactly identical to each other, even if C0k4ndb4llt0rtur3 has been globally locked by Reception123. (Please notice this.) [23:32:30] [url] Error - Awful Movies Wiki | awfulmovies.miraheze.org [23:32:31] [url] Difference between revisions of "Persona 5" - Awesome Games Wiki | awesomegames.miraheze.org [23:32:31] [url] Difference between revisions of "The Nutcracker in 3D" - Awful Movies Wiki | awfulmovies.miraheze.org [23:32:32] [url] Difference between revisions of "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim" - Awesome Games Wiki | awesomegames.miraheze.org [23:32:34] [url] Difference between revisions of "Dark Souls" - Awesome Games Wiki | awesomegames.miraheze.org [23:32:35] [url] Difference between revisions of "Super Smash Bros. Ultimate" - Awesome Games Wiki | awesomegames.miraheze.org [23:32:37] [url] Difference between revisions of "Overwatch" - Awesome Games Wiki | awesomegames.miraheze.org