[01:57:47] https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/w/index.php?diff=37496&oldid=37470&rcid=61439 https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/w/index.php?diff=37498&oldid=37482&rcid=61445 https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/w/index.php?diff=37502&oldid=37468&rcid=61451 [01:57:48] [url] Difference between revisions of "Velma Dinkley" - Incredible Characters Wiki | greatcharacters.miraheze.org [01:57:50] [url] Difference between revisions of "Tom Nook (Animal Crossing)" - Incredible Characters Wiki | greatcharacters.miraheze.org [01:57:51] [url] Difference between revisions of "IT (Character)" - Incredible Characters Wiki | greatcharacters.miraheze.org [01:58:03] Vandal and sockpuppet [01:58:16] Oh, abbw again [01:58:26] https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/wiki/User:What%27s_wrong_with_eating%3F [01:58:26] [url] User:What's wrong with eating? - Incredible Characters Wiki | greatcharacters.miraheze.org [01:58:29] @Reception123, if available [02:00:30] @Agent Can you solve this ? [02:00:49] I'm not a GS, sorry. But I can keep an eye out on their CA/contribs [02:02:32] I think we've no CVT members online atm so we'll have to wait for a local admin to handle [02:03:13] cc @DarkMatterMan4500 as a local admin ^ [10:06:36] I was summoned? [10:08:39] Oh, that stupid LTA again. No wonder Agent summoned me. [11:51:14] [[Special:CentralAuth/Bruh and stop blank]] Ugh, not them again. -_- [11:51:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Bruh_and_stop_blank [11:51:15]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Bruh_and_stop_blank [11:51:16] [url] Global account information for Bruh and stop blank - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [11:54:13] @Reception123 https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/wiki/Blog:Don%27t_tell_delicous_the_hedgehog_4 This blog post this LTA made gave them away. [11:54:14] [url] Don't tell delicous the hedgehog 4 - Incredible Characters Wiki | greatcharacters.miraheze.org [13:00:57] I can sniff that lta with one sentence tbh [13:01:10] usually in the name :p [13:01:50] Yeah, -abigblueworld-doesn't even try hiding it either. [13:01:53] I wonder how effective it might be to start off with making an abusefilter that automatically strikes anyone with four words (things divided by spaces) in their name, since it sounds far more economic to apologize and unblock the unheard of exception than to use that and kill an entire path abbw uses to make accounts. [13:02:50] They'll find another path, but it strips out one option for them entirely that I've never seen used in good faith anyway. [13:03:58] Yeah, and -abigblueworld- is permanently banned from entering Qualitipedia because of her constant trolling and heavy harassment. [13:05:46] Clearly. [13:06:17] But now we're looking at a) efficient steps to solve the problem since clearly the ban is not being respected and b) proactive steps to make their games harder, rather than add fuel for them to know their effort is working. [13:06:19] And the fact that she did this to me on Wikipedia makes it more clear. [13:06:56] How are we going to tell her she's not welcomed here anyway? [13:06:57] The less seriously they're taken and the less attention they get in general, the more true progress you can actually make. Frankly, with your delete summaries and so forth, you tend to add the fuel they need to know they're being effective. [13:07:16] Therefore the only way to destroy them is to eliminate the true source of entertainment. Your reactions (among a few others of course). [13:07:29] Clerically exterminate them while calmly considering avenues to cut off their antics. [13:07:44] Yeah, it's clear to me she knows she's not going to get anywhere, but still continues it anyway. [13:07:47] The less they truly bother you, the less true damage or harassment they can offer. [13:08:14] Therefore rather than the conventional 'ban everything you see' that accompanies reactionary messages, change path in how you address them and even think about them. [13:08:32] And if that were to continue, then bigger consequences might come her way. [13:08:46] Ban, but nothing more than that. It seems they get frustrated with 'long term abuse' messages. Perhaps that can be the standard message so there is no unique fuel. [13:09:21] Until you can specify the bigger consequences, there's no point raising them. At most I hear there might be a block applied to amazon based servers that can be used to spoof a usable ip. [13:09:49] Unless you can physically find them and give them a chat or somehow report to idk, her mother or to a relevant school, there's no more in meaningful consequences. [13:10:03] Therefore rather than take them seriously, just don't. Block, move on, no change to mindset. [13:10:18] Maybe consider things like disallowing names that are sentences. [13:10:21] Yeah, she gets pissed off when we give her that same reason over and over again. And if we continue giving her the same long-term abuse reason, then she'll likely get bored and move on. [13:10:29] I fully agree with @raidarr, we must follow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deny_recognition [13:10:30] [wikipedia] Wikipedia:Deny recognition | "True vandals and trolls (as distinguished from users who dabble in minor vandalism) usually suffer from chronic alienation and real or perceived powerlessness. They seek recognition and infamy by interrupting and frustrating the Wikipedia project and community. Such users experience exceptional attention as empowerment, reward, and encouragement. This is particularly true for those […]" [13:10:41] It's a good idea, and I wish this was properly done. [13:11:07] Nuke the offending content, whack the user as lta, nothing more, no public indication you are frustrated as that is critical to the point of the recurring harassment. [13:11:12] They clearly want us to know it's them and to get banned as they're probably bored and have fun by trolling us. Therefore I don't think we should waste time debating them and should just proceed with reports accompanied by diffs of the WP:DUCK evidence and then a lock [13:11:16] But for now, it seems like she hasn't done anything else for about an hour. [13:11:44] yeah who knows, maybe she reads this chat, so I'd really emphasise no discussion about her anywhere other than just reporting [13:11:46] This is thinking to apply whenever they may appear, which could be weeks or months based on previous patterns if they get bored. [13:12:09] Yeah, if we don't acknowledge them they'll likely get bored and leave eventually [13:12:13] Yes, and they act pathetically. [13:12:29] We had a troll on IRC we called the music troll (which I'm sure many remember) and eventually once we got people to stop interacting with them they got bored and left [13:12:35] But I hope you see where I'm coming from in identifying the strong reactions that fuel them as the problem. [13:12:36] Yes, all we have to do is not give in to her stupid demands. [13:12:42] Before that some people even told them they liked the songs they spammed, etc. which just made them want to come back more [13:12:55] Not even considering her demands as valid to give into. Just blankly ignoring the demands as the spam it is in the first place. [13:13:00] Yeah, the time for debating and trying to get her to change is over IMO, we just need to mechanically lock now [13:13:18] If she wants to change/appeal (which I doubt) she can send an email to stewards@ but that's it [13:13:24] This sounds like a good plan. [13:14:30] None of us want her back on Qualitipedia ever again. She should find something else to do. [17:40:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Creating_a_blocking_policy_for_all_wikis What should we do about this Requests for Comment request anyway? [17:40:54] [url] Requests for Comment/Creating a blocking policy for all wikis - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [17:41:34] It has valid discussion and a handful of supporters, though enough oppose that it will likely be considered unsuccessful. But probably isn't to the point where it should be immediately closed for snowing. [17:42:02] Yeah, I guess we should let a Steward handle the closing then. [17:42:13] We should do that either way :p [22:18:41] [[Special:CentralAuth/We're falling apart in half time]] @Void @Doug Sockpuppet of -abigblueworld- has been found. The blog post gives them away: https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Blog:Say_this_if_you_think_im_a_s0ck!&oldid=37582 [22:18:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/We%27re_falling_apart_in_half_time [22:18:47] [url] Say this if you think im a s0ck! - Incredible Characters Wiki | greatcharacters.miraheze.org [22:18:49]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/We're_falling_apart_in_half_time [22:18:59] [url] Global account information for We're falling apart in half time - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [22:19:01] Dang, I was just about to report that user [22:19:19] Yeah, I got first dibs on this one. [22:20:39] @Stewards ^ In case no other Steward sees it first. [23:16:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ya_know,_if_you_keep_saying_that,_i%27ll_be_more_accs&action=edit&redlink=1 [23:16:24] [url] User:Ya know, if you keep saying that, i'll be more accs - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [23:20:17] Imagine how many people in third world countries would have footwear thanks to abbw [23:22:29] XD [23:22:48] Hey, this is my first cvt catch! [23:23:00] Helping the Meta already [23:23:59] indeed :p [23:25:12] Than again, this one was easy to identify [23:27:36] Pretty much anytime you see a username that's a sentence, it's them >.> [23:27:54] But, good to be vigilent either way. [23:45:45] @Void You up for globally locking at this time? [23:50:47] They've been doing within the span of 4 to 5 months. The master account was locked on July 4th at 1:00AM in UTC time.