[00:06:03] JohnLewis or anyone else around to look into this particular LTA? [00:51:56] dmehus @Void-walker Sorry for the constant pings, but I need help dealing with an annoying pest who's refusing to acknowledge that they're not welcomed to our wikis. [02:09:45] https://genericandoverusedphrases.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=198 Now this user made this threat directly at me telling me to "do it now" or I die in a fire and bleed. [02:09:46] [url] All public logs - Generic & Overused Phrases Wiki | genericandoverusedphrases.miraheze.org [02:32:06] At this point, she needs some serious mental help [02:33:40] A global permanent ban is what she needs. [02:34:29] Doubt that'd help [02:34:34] This is a game to her [02:34:37] I think she has more than enough global bans [02:34:45] The more we lock her, the funner it is for her [02:35:00] If we're reaching triple digit ban counts, that's probably not the most effective answer :p [02:35:28] We can still keep locking her accounts, and at this point, she'll be locked more times to the point of her actually quitting. [02:35:56] I'm afraid my point before regarding the attention being her fuel and the locks being part of the fun has been utterly missed. [02:36:10] Plus, she's still following me around on wikis that I'm an admin of, which is pretty much stalkerish. [02:36:15] It is the pinnacle of naivety to think you can lock and block her out of activity alone. [02:36:37] I gotta admit, the stalking thing is pretty creepy [02:36:50] Especially when you offer considerable evidence that what she's doing is effective. [02:36:57] That I continue to believe is why it happens. [02:37:09] If she's a cross-site LTA who came from Wikipedia over here and has done this on previous wikis, I doubt locking her various times will do anything [02:37:12] Maybe -abigblueworld- could infact be some other user who has been pre-mabanned before? [02:37:22] I have that theory for some reason [02:37:33] Then again, the evidence I point out has been made many times before. [02:37:38] abbw's online persona is rather easy to find and decently established for what it is [02:37:44] And the favorite movie thing being UglyDolls also sounds very suspicious [02:38:00] What she is doing is also very simple, performing actions that elicit reactions [02:38:09] She does somehow reminds me of UglyDollsFan2002. [02:38:19] That's what I was thinking [02:38:40] Unless you can tie it to more significant action, there isn't much grounds to speculate. [02:38:47] It looks as of the activity has ceased. [02:38:51] The behavior is quite similar based on the comments I have seen that user make from back then [02:39:15] Yeah, that's true. I can't just guess that on a whim like that. [02:39:57] heh, I found her roblox account :P [02:40:03] Not to mention it once more defeats the point by offering undue attention to someone who doesn't deserve it. [02:40:14] That said, the scratch account is probably easiest to find. [02:40:22] yeah [02:40:42] Well, for now, the account has ceased. [02:41:15] She has a SoundCloud too [02:41:16] hmm [02:43:16] The locks are still necessary, given the amount of abused accounts this user kept yanking out. Creating multiple accounts if the main account is locked is considered lock evasion. I mean, just look at Fuerdai on Wikipedia. He keeps creating accounts everyday, and they all get locked. [02:43:29] Oh yes, @Void's here. [02:44:10] What is necessary and what I believe CVT is considering is applying ranged blocks to servers that amazon dishes out, which can be turned around for abuse of IPs [02:44:37] Obviously locks will be issued as necessary, but they need no more than the lock, local blocks where active and then ignored entirely [02:46:02] I don't understand how this particular one has a bunch of proxies at their disposal. [02:46:20] Also, my COVID test came back negative. [02:46:32] Thank goodness [02:46:34] As mentioned above, there are services that provide unusual means to circumvent proxy bans. [02:46:39] And the last bit is good to hear. [02:47:01] Amazon is one method where you can get completely free servers, which may then be used to look like a unique connection. [02:47:07] Maybe they are younger and have access to school computers to use? [02:47:30] There is a posibility they are using library or school computers for this [02:47:31] They did use an IP from what appears to be a school. [02:48:24] There is a large chance they will keep doing this until the amount of devices they can use runs dry [02:48:40] I personally believe time is our friend here [02:50:46] A school can be rangeblocked [02:50:55] They've gone well past that I'm afraid [02:51:20] As I said, local libraries could be involved as well [02:51:26] Can those be rangeblocked? [02:51:48] The user even sent me sexual threats like these on Wikipedia: https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DarkMatterMan4500&oldid=prev&diff=7842564&diffmode=source https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DarkMatterMan4500&oldid=prev&diff=4652825&diffmode=source These are just small examples of what -abigblueworld- has done on another MediaWiki project, which was why I had to send WMFOffice a [02:51:49] message. [02:51:49] [url] Difference between revisions of "User talk:DarkMatterMan4500" - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | simple.wikipedia.org [02:51:49] The important thing to realize is that most school devices likely do not even have a unique IP; each building/entity likely has only a couple IPs at a time to use, and each device is only unique within its own network instead of the outside world [02:51:50] [url] Difference between revisions of "User talk:DarkMatterMan4500" - Wikinews, the free news source | en.wikinews.org [02:52:06] So the issue is the fact they are finding services to spoof IPs with that go beyond brick and mortar locations [02:52:26] The 2 usernames on that wiki is well hidden now, but thought it could be relevant. [02:52:45] I think it is pretty helpful [02:53:11] That also strengthens my point that the user could be a previously global-ed one [02:53:23] On or off-wiki evidence could be helpful. [02:53:47] I'm reasonably sure it is the identity that has been consistently displayed tbh, and it wouldn't change much if it wasn't [02:54:06] -abigblueworld- as locked on July 4th at 1AM, UTC time. [02:54:14] You mean what I said above? [02:54:20] I mean te -abigblueworld- account itself [02:54:35] It could be a sock of someone else was what I meant [02:54:42] I mean specifically the abbw user [02:54:45] ok [02:54:58] they have been consistent in presentation, and even if they are a previous user, it does not change too much in terms of usable data [02:55:08] That is true [02:55:13] Just a thought though [02:55:25] I'm kinda new to all of this stuff [02:55:28] UglyDolls2002 is too stale for CU results to find, and even if it's behavioral, IPs would be inconsistent. [02:56:01] IP consistency is secondary imo, the behavior is the best we have [02:56:13] Correct. [02:56:30] True identity of long term abusers, especially when their behaviors begin to overlap becomes a rather difficult topic. [02:56:53] In time it becomes a matter of recognizing patterns and eliminating them, while taking care not to eliminate legitimate users in the meantime. [02:57:30] That will be easy at this point [02:57:40] They are making themselves way to obvious [02:57:41] indeed :p [02:58:04] Too many [[w:WP:DUCK]] socks to even count out of a haystack. [02:58:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:DUCK [02:58:05]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:DUCK [02:58:05] [wikipedia] WP:DUCK | "The duck test – "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck" – suggests that something can be identified by its habitual characteristics.The duck test does not apply to non-obvious cases. Unless there is evidence which proves otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt, editors must assume good faith from others." [02:58:35] Yep [03:00:36] I'll leave the locks in @Reception123's hands when he wakes up in a couple of hours. Right now, it's 4AM where he is. [03:01:03] I shouldn't even be up now tbh [03:01:34] Same [03:01:38] I should be in bed [03:01:43] But I stay on until 12 [03:02:27] It's 10 PM whee I live [03:02:42] Is it late in your area now? Anyhoo, let's wrap this up for now, and wait for action against the 3 accounts used by this pro-longed long-term abuser. [03:03:01] Yeah, nothing more to discuss for now [03:03:42] At least not until more socks come up [03:04:23] I'll put it this way, I'm an hour off from when I want to usually cal lit