[02:14:24] [discord] https://liveactionchildrenfeet.miraheze.org/wiki/Ayo_wtf @Josephdapro08 There's really no need to make this page, or label anybody as a pedophile without first proving it first. I don't like the wiki either, but it's not a good idea to call people egregious or derogatory names without it being justified. [02:14:25] [url] Ayo wtf - Real Children Feet Wiki | liveactionchildrenfeet.miraheze.org [02:17:17] .tell dmehus to look into [[Special:CentralAuth/막쨩유현105]] [[Special:CentralAuth/막쨩유혀니]] [[Special:CentralAuth/그림뜰빛나라재미시티개잼민사잇같음ㅋㅋㅋ]] [[Special:CentralAuth/Anti-Hako of Agar Ddack Girl]] based on this above: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/443926951292567562/945674077237022723 [02:17:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/%eb%a7%89%ec%a8%a9%ec%9c%a0%ed%98%84105 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/%eb%a7%89%ec%a8%a9%ec%9c%a0%ed%98%80%eb%8b%88 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/%ea%b7%b8%eb%a6%bc%eb%9c%b0%eb%b9%9b%eb%82%98%eb%9d%bc%ec%9e%ac%eb%af%b8%ec%8b%9c%ed%8b%b0%ea%b0%9c%ec%9e%bc%eb%af%bc%ec%82%ac%ec%9e%87%ea%b0%99%ec%9d%8c%e3%85%8b%e3%85%8b%e3%85%8b https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Anti-Hako_of_Agar_Ddack_Girl [02:17:17] darkmatterman450: I'll pass that on when dmehus is around. [07:03:45] Welcome Reception123. If you need to report spam or abuse, please feel free to notify any of the voiced (+v) users, if it contains personal information you can pm them, or email us at cvt [at] miraheze.org [07:04:10] MirahezeBot: so I should notify myself then? :P [10:29:52] Reception123 :)hehe [12:19:05] [discord] send yourself an email for posterity [13:29:39] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/Andyyeungcommons]] Ugh, this guy again. -_- [13:29:39] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Andyyeungcommons [13:29:40] [discord] [13:29:42] [url] Global account information for Andyyeungcommons - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [13:32:51] [discord] Huh. Strange, it popped up on the `betawiki`, but not the rest of the wikis. Why is that? [13:36:07] Unless if Betaheze on its own doesn't register user accounts globally. [13:36:51] darkmatterman450: betawiki isn't part of prod [13:36:59] Ah, I see. [13:37:39] Beta doesn't think it exists [13:37:47] Weird [13:38:35] I blocked it [13:38:40] Will lock it from my PC [13:38:45] [discord] Okay. [13:38:58] After lunch [13:39:07] Need to create a group with lock rights first [13:39:12] [discord] Alright. [13:40:52] [discord] interesting [13:41:18] [discord] the 'commons' that was made on live miraheze has collected a lot of wikis to be attached to, but hasn't yet taken vandalism actions [13:41:23] [discord] still been observing it for behavior [13:42:29] [discord] I think a thorough CU/investigation may be warranted because the spread of account associations ranging from staff to random to including the usual spots of that line of accounts speaks of unusual platform familiarity [13:42:43] [discord] Sounds like a good plan to me. [13:43:11] [discord] though the final suspicion is that its operator also happens to be watching on discord, which could very well lead to me shooting myself in the foot here :p [13:43:56] [discord] Perhaps, but that would require an external use of checking Discord accounts if that's the case. [13:44:11] [discord] it's completely impractical to do a discord-based investigation [13:44:19] Yeah, that's true. [13:49:01] [discord] Also DMM, though this is in good part from my local capacity, I'd like to ask you stop with the practice of pre-emptively blocking accounts which are either being observed by or will be imminently locked by global intervention [13:49:41] [discord] Yeah, I suppose that's fair. [13:49:44] [discord] this is for wikis where a) there is little to no chance of targeted activity (andy is very sporadic and has no apparent actual focus on the reception wikis so far) and b) when the activity is not demonstrated either globally or again, on the reception wikis [13:50:23] [discord] it simply clogs recent changes with blocks made for little consequence, draws attention to those wikis for the multiple account abusers, and in effect just spends time to no real gain [13:50:39] [discord] of course if there is a strong chance of targeting or if action is taken locally, fire at will [13:50:51] [discord] of course if there is a strong chance of targeting from a very obvious case or if action is taken locally, fire at will [13:51:02] [discord] Yeah, I'll take note anyway. [14:52:09] raidarr: locked on beta [14:53:07] [discord] only reason I haven't locked the known account on live is because I have hunches and am attempting to see where it goes (and it hasn't strictly speaking 'done' anything) [14:53:11] raidarr: I'm seeing what CU rules are there [14:54:22] [discord] if at all possible or helpful I'm inclined to authorize you to do whatever CU you need there in my Steward capacity and to drop interesting bits to steward email [14:55:02] [discord] i asked @Owen [14:55:08] [discord] A CU on beta is the first [14:55:12] [discord] for actual reasons [14:55:26] [discord] we've done it on test3 for testing before but on ourselves [14:56:14] [discord] I defer to his advisement if there is something particular T&S has to say about it [14:57:32] [discord] i'm not sure if there's anything particular about it [14:57:46] [discord] or just if there's never been grounds too [14:58:07] [discord] beta is weird in that most users don't exist [14:58:24] [discord] Shouldn't that have been registered globally anyway? [14:58:38] [discord] There isn't even a steward group, (beyond the magic I did server side to promote myself to sysadmin) [14:58:59] [discord] i left account creation open for testing. It is closed again. [14:59:09] [discord] Oh. [15:00:00] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/Andyyeung commons]] The question here is, what do we do about this account? [15:00:00] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Andyyeung_commons [15:00:02] [discord] [15:00:06] [url] Global account information for Andyyeung commons - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [15:00:35] [discord] It is under observation at this time [15:00:52] [discord] But do inform immediately if edits are made [15:00:57] [discord] Alright. I have noticed it has registered on nearly 100 wikis. [15:01:01] [discord] You got it. [15:01:10] [discord] the nature of its registration interests me [15:16:08] raidarr: an IP just hit smwwikibeta [15:16:59] not sure what that means, especially if it's beta side since I don't even think I've seen it yet [15:18:30] raidarr: [[Main Page]] on smwwikibeta was edited by 148.74.235.89 with the following comment: Created page with "This funny identifier! Funny! Keep laughing!" Link: https://semantic-mediawiki.betaheze.org/w/index.php?oldid=1&rcid=1 [15:18:30] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [15:18:31] [url] Main Page - Semantic MediaWiki | semantic-mediawiki.betaheze.org [15:18:39] I deleted it and globally blocked the IP [15:33:25] [discord] Oh, I s... hmm [15:33:36] [discord] I think that might be a lead [15:33:52] [discord] unfortunately that makes a handful of leads right now, so I'm going to have to delay it until later [15:37:01] i can't say it's andy without a CU [15:37:07] but it's info [15:41:32] [discord] based on my initial investigation and on behavioral association I am entirely convinced it is andy [15:41:40] [discord] the only question, and the one to have leads for is who andy is [15:42:06] [discord] but tbh it's slightly immaterial at the moment, so it's something I'll just confer with Doug on when available [15:42:50] that andrew was spamming #libera at same time [15:42:57] he might email stewards@ [15:43:04] could be them [15:43:17] but IPs didn't match Toronto v New Jersey [15:43:38] [discord] it's absolutely not the true location that's in use [15:44:02] [discord] andy as an alias is a proxy for a more familiar if recently started abuse [15:44:29] ok [15:44:42] the IP used on wiki wasn't a proxy [15:44:50] the one in libera was a school [15:45:05] still waiting on Owen for a CU [15:45:28] [discord] or maybe @Orduin can advise as board + SRE [15:45:33] [discord] + steward [15:47:29] [discord] Void if available I think would be ideal [15:48:18] [discord] he just messaged in a secret server [15:48:28] [discord] about something else [15:59:09] raidarr: check the feed [15:59:23] Okay807by needs some looking at [15:59:36] [discord] @Orduin You mind? ^ [15:59:41] well maybe not looking at from the short summary [16:02:54] [discord] RhinosF1, there was another user that did the exact same thing with the links: https://besttvshows.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Kirby:_Right_Back_at_Ya!&diff=prev&oldid=132761 [16:02:56] [discord] https://besttvshows.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=The_Modifyers&diff=prev&oldid=132762 [16:02:56] [url] Difference between revisions of "Kirby: Right Back at Ya!" - Best Shows & Episodes Wiki | besttvshows.miraheze.org [16:02:57] [discord] https://besttvshows.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Kikai_Sentai_Zenkaiger&diff=prev&oldid=132763 (BredAlitlikle on the `besttvshowswiki`) [16:02:57] [url] Difference between revisions of "The Modifyers" - Best Shows & Episodes Wiki | besttvshows.miraheze.org [16:02:58] [discord] [16:02:59] [url] Difference between revisions of "Kikai Sentai Zenkaiger" - Best Shows & Episodes Wiki | besttvshows.miraheze.org [16:02:59] [discord] https://tokyonova.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Outfits/Other&diff=prev&oldid=706 [16:03:00] [url] Difference between revisions of "Outfits/Other" - TOKYO Nâ—ŽVA: THE AXLERATION | tokyonova.miraheze.org [16:03:01] [discord] https://tokyonova.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Behold,_The_Starry_Night_Sky&diff=prev&oldid=708 [16:03:02] [discord] https://tokyonova.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Hiruko&diff=prev&oldid=709 [16:03:03] [url] Difference between revisions of "Hiruko" - TOKYO Nâ—ŽVA: THE AXLERATION | tokyonova.miraheze.org [16:03:03] [url] Difference between revisions of "Behold, The Starry Night Sky" - TOKYO Nâ—ŽVA: THE AXLERATION | tokyonova.miraheze.org [16:03:03] [discord] https://tokyonova.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Character_Rules&diff=prev&oldid=710 (Okay807by on the `tokyonovawiki`) [16:03:04] [url] Difference between revisions of "Character Rules" - TOKYO Nâ—ŽVA: THE AXLERATION | tokyonova.miraheze.org [16:03:05] [discord] [16:03:06] [discord] Notice that the both of them used the exact same links? [16:03:28] no [16:03:37] i'm not clicking them diffs [16:04:15] [discord] RhinosF1 I'm just doing a comparison check, and they have used the exact same links. [16:05:02] [discord] https://tokyonova.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Okay807by [16:05:03] [discord] This account needs to get blocked. [16:05:04] [url] User contributions for Okay807by - TOKYO Nâ—ŽVA: THE AXLERATION | tokyonova.miraheze.org [16:11:05] Can someone from @CVT block the user to prevent the vandalism from continuing? [16:11:40] * mhbridgebot [discord] whacks [16:11:49] [discord] Thanks @Orduin. [16:13:57] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/Osrsly.jpg]] And they're back. https://tokyonova.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Main%20Page&diff=prev&oldid=732 [16:13:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Osrsly.jpg [16:13:58] [url] Difference between revisions of "Main Page" - TOKYO Nâ—ŽVA: THE AXLERATION | tokyonova.miraheze.org [16:13:59] [discord] [16:14:01] [url] Global account information for Osrsly.jpg - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [16:16:25] [discord] @Orduin Let me guess: All 3 accounts which are Osrsly.jpg, Okay807by and BredAlitlikle were all confirmed to each other? [16:17:11] [discord] I don't mean to add more to your plate void, but there appears to be an incident on Betaheze requiring steward intervention, and I'd be more comfortable with a more experienced Steward collecting the details so we can go over the andy scenario more carefully and in full [16:17:29] [discord] I can take a look [16:17:33] [discord] frankly I don't think I'm especially qualified to CU at the necessary depth, but I do have thoughts as to where the details lead [16:18:09] [discord] Then a Steward can properly train you, so you can use it in case if there's a massive vandalism attack. [16:19:09] [discord] It makes more sense for you to do it [16:19:34] [discord] because there is a mess of authority on beta [16:19:38] [discord] see the staff channel [16:19:46] [discord] see the company channel [16:21:53] [discord] Training is delayed at best, but when appropriate I'll certainly push [16:23:15] [discord] You should definitely push. If I was ever a Steward, I would've done the same thing like what an ordinary Steward would do: Get some feedback from the rest of the community, investigate abuse, help with the re-opening process, etc., but at the moment, it's too soon. [16:23:38] [discord] If you need help with anything you can also reach out whenever I'm around [16:23:59] [discord] Time sync, that's the key [16:24:11] [discord] It's not so much an individual bit as far as developing the principles to use it effectively [16:24:16] [discord] as with everything :) [16:24:43] [discord] I'd definitely like to collaborate on other Steward-level details for other subjects sometime, I just don't have those in an organized format yet [16:25:21] [discord] I'll probably just make progress/finish a Meta project first so the slate is cleaner to work from [16:25:25] [discord] But hold up, were the mentioned accounts above like Osrsly.jpg, Okay807by, and BredAlitlikle confirmed to each other anyway? [16:25:50] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/Andyyeungmeta]] Oh shit, not the Andyyeung group again. -_- [16:25:50] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Andyyeungmeta [16:25:51] [discord] [16:25:52] [url] Global account information for Andyyeungmeta - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [16:26:31] [discord] went ahead and blew it away [16:26:40] [discord] I'm only interested in the commons account [16:26:43] [discord] Thanks. [16:26:54] Welcome Voidwalker. If you need to report spam or abuse, please feel free to notify any of the voiced (+v) users, if it contains personal information you can pm them, or email us at cvt [at] miraheze.org [16:31:53] [discord] please ping me if you need a beta account [16:32:11] [discord] i don't know if you ever got one [16:32:19] [discord] I'm already on test101 ready to run createAndPromote.php :) [16:32:28] [discord] that works [16:39:39] [discord] @Orduin could we hold back on use of CU for now? There’s a deadlock over authority of use [16:41:18] [discord] Sure, I can let that get sorted out, as I'm also not that convinced (based on a recent CU of an account clearly within my jurisdiction) that the CU results would be useful [16:42:32] [discord] this is getting to be qualitipedia levels of effective [16:43:08] [discord] You mean with how messy it is at the moment? [16:43:12] [discord] That’s perfectly fine, especially if you haven’t done the check on beta yet. I’d rather get things cleared up and clarified first to prevent you falling foul of multi-capacity cross over [16:53:25] [discord] And like that, I'm out of time for now. [17:05:15] [discord] https://awesomegames.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Wqhc5mzx9oyao22l&topic_showPostId=wqjkbnxs1kbcg89z#flow-post-wqjkbnxs1kbcg89z MoistyTIT has been pestering me for a day or 2, and I'd wish they would stop. [17:05:16] [url] Why you ducking me DarkMatterMan? on User talk:MoistyTIT | awesomegames.miraheze.org [17:08:13] [discord] I see enough in that thread that I'm going to handle it; in a local capacity of course. [17:08:58] [discord] I did issue a block however. Right now, I'm sending MoistyTIT a clear message for ignoring the warning. [17:11:32] [discord] In that case, you've handled it :p [17:11:39] [discord] either way a locally resolvable matter though [17:12:08] [discord] https://awesomegames.miraheze.org/wiki/Topic:Wqku9klql2np8rt2 I sent the user this message shortly afterwards, which was just now. [17:12:10] [url] Blocked for 1 week for ignoring warning to stop: on User talk:MoistyTIT | awesomegames.miraheze.org [19:10:29] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/Nobh4321]] [19:10:29] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Nobh4321 [19:10:30] [discord] https://companybumpers.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Nobh4321 [19:10:31] [discord] [19:10:31] [url] User contributions for Nobh4321 - Company Bumpers | companybumpers.miraheze.org [19:10:32] [discord] This user has been vandalizing pages on the Company Bumpers Wiki. [19:10:34] [discord] [19:10:35] [url] Global account information for Nobh4321 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:16:51] [discord] Can @CVT please help here? [19:21:55] [discord] lookking [19:21:58] [discord] lookkng [19:22:20] [discord] vandalism on second wiki seems weak, so I'll go for a local block at this time [19:22:37] [discord] Alright. [19:22:46] $log locally blocked user on companybumperswiki for vandalism [19:22:55] Saved item "locally blocked user on companybumperswiki for vandalism" [19:23:22] [discord] Thanks for dealing with the vandalism. [19:26:21] [discord] https://companybumpers.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserBoard&user=DarkMatterMan4500&conv=Nobh4321 And of course, this user decided to make personal attacks against me all because I reverted their vandalism. [19:26:22] [url] DarkMatterMan4500's board-to-board with Nobh4321 - Company Bumpers | companybumpers.miraheze.org [19:27:39] [discord] while an outright lock is a bit extreme I think that might be an inevitable course for an account that has maze zero constructive edits of the things it's posted so far [19:28:22] [discord] right now though, I have to go back to snow as I've badly underestimated how much snow work I needed to do today [19:28:29] [discord] So what are you suggesting? It has been locally blocked for one week. [19:28:41] [discord] obviously hasn't stopped board to board, which is an interesting bug [19:28:55] [discord] Unless the block was made right after [19:29:08] [discord] I think it was made after. [19:29:20] [discord] if so, that's something wrong with the feature itself [19:29:30] [discord] might be worth the phab task to report [19:29:38] [discord] That's possible yeah, but the vandalism on the second wiki was so minor that right now I didn't think it was necessary [19:29:55] [discord] after all, global locks are of course used to avoid vandalism from spreading to other wikis, but in this case that's not necessarily a given just yet [19:30:19] [discord] if the second wiki vandalism is more serious/escalates then a lock will be in order IMO [19:30:19] [discord] conservatively it's not enough, but my gut says we just need one more smoking gun preferably from CLG main where he already got a start [19:30:22] [discord] Let's just hope the user doesn't continue it. [19:35:26] [discord] yeah [19:38:13] [discord] https://awesomegames.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Wqku9klql2np8rt2&topic_showPostId=wqkygwlqqq7asu8r#flow-post-wqkygwlqqq7asu8r MoistyTIT clearly doesn't get the message. Also, wasn't this user told to request a global rename of their account a week or so ago? [19:38:14] [url] Blocked for 1 week for ignoring warning to stop: on User talk:MoistyTIT | awesomegames.miraheze.org [19:38:44] [discord] Moisty is on his last straw for QP from me [19:39:00] [discord] every time I ever see him in discussion he ranges from barely tolerable to attempts at trolling [19:39:37] [discord] Freight is another one who's getting there, but not as closely as mr. moisty [19:39:48] [discord] Same here. If this user attempts to disrupt Qualitipedia again, well, I'll be issuing an indefinite block as [[w:WP:NOTHERE]]. [19:39:48] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOTHERE [19:39:49] [discord] [19:40:04] [discord] take that shot carefully and with consultation [19:40:49] [discord] if he's removed I want him gone in a way that will stick for some time before there's a good chance at appeal so it cannot be overturned early [19:41:29] [discord] Yes, very true. And besides, the fact this user is attempting to paint me as some person who can't accept criticism is just convoluted and incredibly bullshit. This user wasn't even criticizing me whatsoever. [19:41:36] [discord] for now keeping him locally blocked, and if necessary revoking local talk page access will do [19:42:05] [discord] the fact he was making a barely literate usual trolling-style appeal with goading using the key talking point criticisms as support is enough for me to dismiss it [19:42:35] [discord] Yes, and the user needs to stop before they go too far. [19:42:59] [discord] I'm fairly impressed with the conservatism that's been shown in handling him so far, it's a good sign; now we're at a stage to consider when that leniency has been enough, as it has been granted on several wikis [19:44:55] [discord] @raidarr Am I behind or has he already requested a username changed as required? [19:45:13] [discord] I heard that he made the request, I don't recall seeing it [19:45:34] [discord] Didn't he receive a warning beforehand? [19:45:42] [discord] he did yeah [19:46:10] [discord] It's been quite some time now, and I haven't really seen it as of yet. [19:46:11] [discord] Something about a usurpation, but I don't recall where [19:46:32] [discord] [[User talk:Moisty]] Here it is. [19:46:32] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:Moisty [19:46:33] [discord] [19:46:36] [discord] Ah yes I think they were supposed to usurp Moisty [19:46:39] [url] User talk:Moisty - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:46:42]