[02:19:11] [discord] 2 to 3 days left if the spam never happened in the first place. [05:10:33] Agent, RhinosF1, why did you think https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?oldid=245705&rcid=763159 was Andyyeung? [05:10:33] [url] Meta | meta.miraheze.org [05:10:54] I can't view it :P [05:11:09] .tell RhinosF1 I didn't leave the page intentionally; I deleted a fair bit, plus I figured you would invariably come behind me with your mop and bucket, so thanks :P [05:11:09] dmehus: I'll pass that on when RhinosF1 is around. [05:11:24] nevermind, I see it [05:11:29] "This running in hallway identifier! Funny identifier that no one stop deleting my running in hallway! Funny!" [05:11:33] Only Andy says that [05:11:42] His signature word is "identifier" [05:11:55] which is why I suggested it be added to an abuse filter [05:12:06] Agent: it looks to be either ABBW or SobySobea, with a possible indication that either ABBW is SobySobea or SobySobea is in fact ABBW [05:12:07] also maybe even "funny!" for unregistered/new users [05:12:16] It's quite clearly Andy [05:12:35] Do recall the WMF Phab task which referenced similar speech patterns [05:13:08] And also recall that Andy's first account vandalized various pages by inserting "Page identifier" or "The funny identifier" [05:13:18] Agent, it seems unlikely we had three LTAs active at the same time though, no? [05:13:29] If so, that would be...unprecedented :p [05:13:35] It's possible :P [05:13:42] abbw has been busy on Fandom though [05:13:43] Let me review the logs [05:13:48] oh [05:13:51] she's been terrorizing them for a week now it seems [05:16:59] Agent, oh Andyyeung didn't create an account [05:17:04] that's why [05:17:06] but wow [05:17:16] we had three LTAs active concurrently [05:17:30] new record? [05:18:35] I think so [05:19:14] ``` 12:05, 16 April 2022 Dmehus talk contribs block changed status for global account "User:The Referenced master acc@global": set locked; unset (none) (Long-term abuse) [05:19:14] 12:05, 16 April 2022 Dmehus talk contribs block changed status for global account "User:Ref master acc@global": set locked; unset (none) (Long-term abuse) [05:19:14] 11:45, 16 April 2022 Dmehus talk contribs block changed status for global account "User:Disbandbtsrightnow@global": set locked; unset (none) (Long-term abuse)``` [05:19:14] ^ Oldest is SobySobea; newest two would be ABBW, and I'll take your word for it the IP vandal was Andyyeung :p [05:19:19] dmehus: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global/2022-w10#Global_lock_for_Funny_identifier! [05:19:20] [url] Steward requests/Global/2022-w10 - Meta | meta.wikimedia.org [05:19:31] Agent: thanks [05:19:37] so yep [05:19:44] > Global lock for Funny identifier! [05:19:44] > Long-term abuse. Steward requests/Global/2022-w06#Global lock for Andyyeung123456. [05:19:48] calling it, 3 LTAs active on Meta at the same time [05:19:52] wow [05:20:03] dmehus: you should add the word identifier to an AF [05:20:59] Agent, sure [05:21:24] Chance of false positive? [05:21:37] basically 0% for non-logged in/new users [05:21:40] also perhaps disallow the ability to create pages in the Meta namespace for non-logged in/new users [05:21:52] should we add an exemption for ! user_groups = "user"? [05:21:58] yeah, why not [05:22:04] ok, will do [05:22:17] we can change it to autoconfirmed if he makes accounts to abuse that [05:22:36] or some check to ensure the account is older than a day at least :P [05:23:07] Is it always "funny identifier" or no? [05:23:30] no, he has done "Miraheze identifier", "Page identifier" and another word too [05:23:35] if so, I could make this abuse filter tbh [05:23:41] ah [05:24:20] hallway identifier too it seems [05:27:15] Agent, done [05:27:27] thanks [05:27:35] I could add a global variant for those two [05:27:49] Can you help me with the capitalization of the first character? [17:14:18] Hello [18:50:16] I am here to apeal [18:50:40] [discord] SOUUUP It's a bit too early. [18:50:48] :( [18:53:04] [discord] it's going to get declined entirely with that impatience [18:53:16] ^ [18:53:17] Did the stewards see my email [18:53:34] [discord] I declined to respond to it, because I would straight up decline it [18:53:39] [discord] actually, let me decline it now [18:53:41] SOUUUP The more you keep spamming, the longer it will be for a Steward to consider your appeal. [18:53:53] You’ve told me 1 million times I get it [18:54:09] You clearly don't [18:54:49] Uh [18:54:52] You don't get it at all as you told us this many times that it's nauseating. [18:55:16] Why did my Apeal get declined [18:55:20] to early? [18:56:04] Is that why [18:56:22] Uh [18:56:30] u still typing [18:56:41] SOUUUP We all know the answer to this one. It's just that you've flooded this channel with this stuff one too many times. [18:56:56] But you said it was too early [18:57:34] Only the Stewards have a definitive answer for you, but I'll bet you they have their own reason for not telling you up front. [18:58:00] What did he say [18:58:03] [discord] I have given the answer [18:58:08] [discord] check your email (in a few minutes) [19:00:06] Hello Mr. Foundation. My response as a Steward is no. [19:00:06] You have not changed at all from the behavior that resulted in issue and ultimately lock, primarily disruptive behavior. What was on-wiki block circumvention became the poor use of multiple accounts on Discord and IRC, including a ban on the former and an immediately circumvented block + IP on the latter. You have also become incredibly impatient [19:00:07] and pushed for an appeal after being told this behavior would hurt your chances, and have been flatly declined by Doug on an appeal any day prior to the 19th (already amended to the 20th, which you have ignored). [19:00:07] You have demonstrated a complete inability to follow instructions, to exercise self control or to tone down unwanted behavior. [19:00:08] For this reason your appeal is formally declined. Please do not appeal again until further notice. [19:00:08] raidarr [19:00:09] Miraheze Steward/CVT [19:00:09] ------- Original Message ------- [19:00:10] Damn [19:01:30] That sucks [19:01:36] Daaaaaammmmnnnnnn. That's one badass email reply that I have ever seen from a Steward. (Not in a bad way, but this pretty much sums up everything wrong with Mr. Foundation's behavior and such). [19:01:59] What now [19:02:35] As a fellow helper, I'd say wait for 3-6 months, but all the decisions are up to a Steward to decide. [19:02:49] 3 more months? [19:03:05] That's just my intake on this situation. [19:03:15] 😀 [19:03:31] [discord] not 3 more months [19:03:33] [discord] until further notice [19:03:40] What do you mean by that [19:03:52] [discord] you will not be unlocked until you stop doing the things I specified as contributors to why the appeal was declined [19:04:08] Why stop the making [19:04:14] [discord] you do not have a timeline for how long this would be aside from when a steward tells you or a significant period of time passes [19:04:14] I stopped making sock puppets [19:04:16] SOUUUP He means that you should take a break from the platform until you sober up (and by that I mean, until your behavior is no longer problematic) [19:04:33] and what’s significant in your standards [19:04:36] [discord] you have continued to be a pest on irc and discord, and failed to follow the simplest, most merciful steward instructions from Doug [19:04:45] I didn’t spam [19:04:53] [discord] you did several times, but I digress [19:05:05] SOUUUP Oh really? What about the flood of replies we've gotten here? [19:05:10] give me a date [19:05:16] [discord] don't reappear for a significant period of time and only appear again by email, later [19:05:26] What is significant in your standards though [19:05:30] [discord] if your next contact is by email only, you will have started the first step [19:05:34] i cant read ur mond [19:05:37] mind [19:05:38] [discord] I'm not going to tell you because all you do is abuse that timing [19:05:51] What does that even mean [19:05:55] [discord] spend time off, contact again by email only, and I will feel slightly better [19:06:03] In what daye [19:06:08] [discord] you now have everything you need and I consider the conversation over [19:06:09] SOUUUP We've asked you many times to not flood the channel, but yet you continued doing so, making it harder for you to reappear on the platform. Just a thought. [19:06:17] fine [19:06:20] Let's move on then, shall we? [19:06:21] [discord] I defer any further action to irc moderation if they feel this is a waste of time [19:06:23] [discord] good luck [19:06:32] two more days [19:06:52] :facepalm: Let's just end this conversation already. [19:07:00] Hold on what [19:07:01] [discord] you will be outright declined in two days [19:07:08] Shit [19:07:22] So three days [19:07:31] [discord] you will be outright declined in three days [19:07:37] OK let me take a random guess [19:07:41] It doesn't work like that. And I thought I suggested for this to be over. [19:07:46] 22 days? [19:07:55] [discord] you will be outright declined in twenty two days [19:08:00] Then what [19:08:01] [discord] as long as you keep specifying days it's a no [19:08:10] 22 weeks [19:08:13] [discord] if you stay away for a good long while, maybe we can reconsider [19:08:15] [discord] sure, try 22 weeks [19:08:19] wait it’s like angold [19:08:20] on [19:08:23] HOLD ON [19:08:25] [discord] if you manage it I will unblock you outright [19:08:30] [discord] 22 weeks, see you [19:08:31] [discord] SOUUUP Okay, please stop. It doesn't matter at this point. You are starting to piss us off beyond anything. 🤦‍♂️ [19:09:08] Wait that’s an entire month [19:09:26] What is? [19:09:26] September?? [19:09:30] No it's not. That's about 4 months. [19:09:37] ApexAgunomu Oh, hello. [19:09:38] [discord] in fact I'll give you a deal [19:09:45] Pk [19:09:46] oj [19:09:47] ok [19:09:53] [discord] if I don't see you talking about unlock before september, I will seriously consider it [19:10:08] Do unlocks count [19:10:19] so what do you mean before September [19:10:23] [discord] but if we cut it off by doing august 28th or you mention how many days left the deal is off [19:10:28] [discord] so see you september first by email [19:10:36] [discord] before september 2022 [19:10:43] Hi soup. I know being locked reallly stinks, but it's best to just wait patiently. [19:10:47] [discord] octa i believe in you :p [19:10:50] So how long do I go without mentioning it [19:10:59] [discord] september 1st [19:11:13] I had to wait around 6 months myself. [19:11:23] Damn [19:11:28] SOUUUP Just take 5 months off without disruption, okay? [19:11:29] [discord] apex managed it and I wasn't sure at first, but he seems to be turning out alright [19:11:47] Apex is actually female according to the profiles on Wikipedia. [19:11:50] [discord] so if you can manage up to september 1st I will have confidence you can follow basic instruction, and I will seriously consider the appeal [19:11:58] Ok [19:12:03] Unless I'm wrong about that. [19:12:04] Profiles on Wikipedia?? [19:12:17] I meant when you were Skiyomi, on your user page. [19:12:38] Oh yeah. Yes I am female. [19:12:44] What’s gonna happen to my wiki [19:12:51] the one made with my wock [19:12:52] socl [19:12:56] Sock [19:12:58] But i prefer not to talk about wikipedia here. [19:13:00] [discord] probably going to expire and be deleted [19:13:09] M [19:13:11] Let's just drop the subject, shall we? [19:13:13] mmmmm [19:13:27] M [19:13:41] Wait wikis expire? [19:14:27] [discord] dormancy policy [19:14:36] Let's just forget about it. Let's not flood this channel any longer with the chattering. :/ [19:14:43] Okay [19:16:44] So global blocks can be expired locally [19:16:57] Global IP blocks yes, but not global locks. [19:17:07] >:( [19:17:13] hm [19:22:23] Welcome SOUUUP7. If you need to report spam or abuse, please feel free to notify any of the voiced (+v) users, if it contains personal information you can pm them, or email us at cvt [at] miraheze.org [19:22:30] FUCK BEES [19:22:37] BEES CAN GO BURN IN HELL [19:22:41] SOUUUP7: stop [19:22:51] might as well extend the appeal until October [19:22:54] OK [19:22:55] [discord] soup [19:22:57] [discord] please just [19:22:58] what [19:23:51] B [19:23:51] Bongo-Cat 15:16:21 [19:23:52] check your discord dms [19:23:52] i made a replica of the miraheze discord server [19:23:53] btw im SelfCloak/Bukkit [19:23:53] ← SOUUUP has left (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) [19:23:54] S [19:23:54] SOUUUP 15:17:19 [19:23:55] Ok [19:23:55] B [19:23:56] Bongo-Cat 15:17:48 [19:23:56] dont snitch though 🤫 [19:23:57] E [19:24:21] ? [19:24:34] Well now I have to wait until the timber [19:24:41] September 1st [19:24:48] Fuck [19:24:58] snitch [19:25:04] E [19:26:54] next time i dm you we gonna make an nda [19:28:12] anyways its getting a bit offtopic [19:28:40] [discord] #ID:615786602454581249 [19:36:19] [discord] [[Special:CentralAuth/Bot 23]] @CVT Vandalism-only account found. https://terribletvshows.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bot_23 https://atrociousgameplay.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bot_23 https://crappygames.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bot_23 Pretty sure almost all of the edits are unconstructive. [19:36:19] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Bot_23 [19:36:20] [discord] [19:36:20] [url] User contributions for Bot 23 - Terrible Shows & Episodes Wiki | terribletvshows.miraheze.org [19:36:21] [url] Global account information for Bot 23 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:36:23] [url] User contributions for Bot 23 - Atrocious Gameplay Wiki | atrociousgameplay.miraheze.org [19:36:23] [url] User contributions for Bot 23 - Crappy Games Wiki | crappygames.miraheze.org [19:48:10] So on `terribletvshowswiki`, yes, it's mostly vandalism, but I'm not seeing vandalism on the other wikis, and the user is already blocked there, so unless they start vandalizing other wikis, I don't see a need to lock here [19:48:18] [discord] dmehus: use `\x20` as a space [19:48:26] chrs, thanks :) [19:48:56] [discord] don't you just love when your internet goes out but your client doesn't give any indication for a while? [19:49:28] chrs, yeah lol, and you think you're still connected and you're like, "wow, the feeds sure are quiet" :P [19:54:42] dmehus: doesn’t seem to work [19:56:05] [discord] oh its 20 not 60 :p [19:56:24] chrs, seems to partially work, thanks, it ignored https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:NDKilla, but https://publictestwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User:Dmehus/sandbox&diff=43348&oldid=41443 didn't get caught [19:56:25] [url] User talk:NDKilla - TestWiki | publictestwiki.com [19:56:26] [url] Difference between revisions of "User:Dmehus/sandbox" - TestWiki | publictestwiki.com [20:10:36] Can youplease be unblocked for an hour [20:10:40] can I b [20:10:44] can I be unblocked for an hour [20:11:01] Please [20:12:08] [discord] SOUUUP Please don't. [20:12:10] SOUUUP: every time you beg to be unblocked, it just makes it less likely; you need to just demonstrate that you can stay away [20:12:16] H [20:12:20] Just one hour [20:12:40] Even half an hour will be nice [20:13:07] Oi [20:13:10] anyone [20:15:41] [discord] SOUUUP Dude, don't even try. It just annoys us more, and it does more harm than good when you beg like this. [20:15:55] Just for an hour pls [20:16:06] I have something I need to do [20:16:20] [discord] You've been told to stop begging. [20:16:33] is there a reason we have +c set in here? [20:16:35] [discord] @raidarr ^ [20:16:36] So ask [20:17:05] [discord] SOUUUP You're making it even harder for yourself to appeal properly. :/ [20:19:52] [discord] you know, last time we blocked he just circumvented it anyway, but we might be ready to try again [20:20:03] [discord] in any case it seems he's clearly decided to call off the september first deal [20:20:53] My IP is still blocked [20:21:00] Shouldn't we have SOUUUP muted? He's clearly refusing to get the points expressed to him, and it's getting to a certain point that communication with him is futile. [20:21:13] I literally couldn’t circumvent it [20:21:26] But you did a couple of weeks ago. [20:21:37] [discord] I mean, if souuup continues to fail to listen to anything including the part where I said unblock would be considered if he'd stuff it for a long period of time, we might have to go the .kb route [20:22:02] Your precious account was called "Something", and you confessed to operating it SOUUUP (Mr. Foundation). [20:22:12] What is kb [20:22:18] And that was under a different IP [20:22:25] [discord] so really the final question to mr. foundation is this, do you want to be unblocked or no; if you stay out of chat for several months that is a yes, if you continue that is a no and we can proceed to extending platform block to irc block as well [20:22:32] Meaning this time [20:22:37] I literally cannot [20:22:45] [discord] is that a no, you do not wish to be unlocked [20:22:55] Can I at least make a fabricator account [20:22:56] In the same area, but yes, different range, but still the same state. I'm going to be vague about this. [20:22:59] phab [20:23:01] [discord] ok, that sounds like a no [20:23:04] Why [20:23:13] Why not phab [20:23:19] It’s a lot harder to edit on there [20:23:32] .op [20:23:32] raidarr: Access Denied. If in error, please contact the channel founder. [20:23:37] ah [20:23:49] cc Reception123, or someone else more irc capable [20:24:03] raidarr: you need to do it via ChanServ [20:24:11] do `/msg ChanServ op #miraheze-cvt` [20:24:12] dear lord [20:24:15] I just need to be unlocked for a few minutes [20:24:21] so I can make a fabricator account [20:24:23] phab [20:24:24] SOUUUP No, that's not how it works. [20:24:25] this is why I don't do irc much [20:24:31] How does it work [20:25:04] SOUUUP At least return in 6 months. You've refused to listen, so of course, bye-bye. [20:25:17] SOUUUP: the more you come here the less chances of ever getting unbanned [20:25:21] it's as simple as that [20:25:27] Alright soup, if you don't send another message today I will not deliver an IRC block to you that lasts until october [20:25:40] if there is another message that is not explicitly a reply to this declaration, I will deliver it [20:25:45] Well why can’t I make a fabricator account [20:25:53] I need to know [20:25:56] darnit [20:26:05] there we go [20:26:09] don't forget to unban ChanServ [20:26:25] it looks like chanserv just ignored it [20:26:27] Bye-bye. Hope to see you again in 6 months SOUUUP. [20:26:28] lol bad raidarr [20:26:37] no it's still there [20:26:42] this is why you don't leave it to me to do irc operations [20:26:57] uh, is there an .unkb [20:26:57] You cant ban ChanServ and it actually work [20:27:08] just do `/mode #miraheze-cvt -b *!ChanServ@services.libera.chat` [20:27:21] nice [20:27:34] next thing you know I wipe out litharge [20:28:18] whew [20:29:13] anyone know why we have +c set here? [20:32:41] No [20:33:48] I think we should unset it, this is the only #miraheze- channel which has it set [20:33:59] for context, +c strips all formatting codes [20:35:17] noticed this when I tried to boldly respond to SOUUUP [20:35:53] +c is also a default mode for newly created channels, so it was probably never removed [20:36:31] Then again, this is probably the most likely to get trolled, so +c is probably a good thing [20:36:50] s/this is/this channel [20:36:50] Sario meant to say: Then again, this channel probably the most likely to get trolled, so +c is probably a good thing [20:37:15] actually it looks like the default mode is +C not +c [20:37:22] which blocks CTCP messages sent to the entire channel [20:39:38] +C is a new default, most of our channels predate it [20:40:02] (But I strongly recommend it for all channels) [20:42:17] and for some reason they set +s by default [20:43:12] I think that's so you can set your channel up before people start to find it [20:43:38] would make sense [20:52:14] this must be a really really new change [20:52:35] I recall it still being +nt less than a month ago (about)