[05:33:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <RhinosF1> Please leave warnings to the @CVT team
[09:21:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Alright.
[09:52:02] <HeartsDo>	 Vandalism only account on Meta, if an sysop can block and cleanup: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vandyno
[09:52:03] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] User contributions for Vandyno - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org
[09:52:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Zppix> All edits are to their userspace
[09:52:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Zppix> So not really anything to be done
[09:53:21] <HeartsDo>	 [[Special:RequestWikiQueue/25510]]
[09:53:21] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/25510
[09:53:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Zppix> Blocking doesnt prevent wiki requests
[09:54:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Zppix> @Reception123 are you around? Are you able to block the above from wiki requests?
[09:54:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> He cannot do this i think?
[09:55:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Zppix> If only stewards can do it thats a really useless permission
[09:56:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> I asked about this in #ID:435711390544560128 literally today 😆
[09:56:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> If it's only T&S thing, okay.
[09:56:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> But otherwise...
[09:57:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Zppix> If its only T&S even more useless
[09:58:18] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Zppix> That means to prevent abuse of request wiki we would have to go to them every time
[10:00:16] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Why not just lock the account as soon as possible?
[10:00:18] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> I mean if this is allowed for stewards without some discussion... (although they can do "anything" related to rights of course)
[10:00:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Zppix> Its not cross-wiki
[10:00:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Oh.
[10:00:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Zppix> Therefore this is purely a meta issue
[10:01:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Yeah, I see that now, but it's clearly abuse of multiple accounts ever since the Vandunady account was created yesterday.
[10:01:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> And technically it's "fork" of full block/lock
[10:03:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Zppix> I went ahead and boldly blocked
[10:03:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Thank you very much. I would have asked for a block to mitigate the disruption anyway.
[10:04:08] <HeartsDo>	 Thanks
[10:06:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> https://podcastaccess.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Main%20Page&diff=prev&oldid=13 That vandal is now spreading cross-wiki.
[10:06:49] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Main Page: Difference between revisions - Podcast Transcript Database | podcastaccess.miraheze.org
[10:07:01] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> Ok
[10:07:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> I reverted it to save you all the trouble of doing it.
[10:08:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> [[Special:CentralAuth/AlexandraVoicu2021]] Oh lookie here, it looks like our "old friend" has returned.
[10:08:45] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/AlexandraVoicu2021
[10:08:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/AlexandraVoicu2021>
[10:08:47] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Global account information for AlexandraVoicu2021 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org
[10:09:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> Who is old friend?
[10:10:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> AlexandraVoicu (aka SobeaSobell). Looks like the AlexandruVoicu2022 user account (the latest sockpuppet) has returned.
[10:10:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> https://closinglogosgroup.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Antena_TV_Group_(Romania)&diff=prev&oldid=238291 @MrJaroslavik This should be apparent.
[10:10:53] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Antena TV Group (Romania): Difference between revisions - CLG Wiki | closinglogosgroup.miraheze.org
[10:11:01] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Oh, thanks.
[10:12:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> Haha
[10:12:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> [[Special:CentralAuth/AlexandraVoicu2020]] And she's back again. -_-
[10:12:56] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/AlexandraVoicu2020
[10:12:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/AlexandraVoicu2020>
[10:12:57] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Global account information for AlexandraVoicu2020 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org
[10:13:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> I wanted to say "there will be 2020 account"
[10:13:14] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> It was just created.
[10:14:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> I would suggest reverting everything from the user as well.
[10:15:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> [[Special:CentralAuth/AlexandraVoicu2019]] At this point, the @Stewards should be intervening.
[10:15:51] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/AlexandraVoicu2019
[10:15:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/AlexandraVoicu2019>
[10:15:53] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Global account information for AlexandraVoicu2019 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org
[10:16:14] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> Lol, will create filter or add it to title blacklist
[10:26:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> Fun afternoon
[11:12:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> setting a timer on loginwiki cu is neat, but if I have to turn it on every day especially when it expires when needed... wellp
[11:26:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> i would not have issue with stewards having CU on lw permanently
[11:26:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> as on WMF
[11:27:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> With logging on some page or control between stewards
[11:27:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> I have this idea for long time, but it needs massive consensus
[11:34:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> well all stewards would see the logs at that point
[11:35:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Speaking of which, it's been 7 days since @Agent and @Reception123 were nominated to become stewards, so if a closing Steward would like to see about closing it at some point today, that would be awesome.
[11:35:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> de-facto if stewards can take a look whenever they like or see the need for the most part then I think it's a very simple step from cutting the user rights flip floppery, though my situation is a bit unusual since I'm the only one who can check essentially all possible abuse cases
[11:35:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> I don't like closing on the 12 hour on the dot per se, but will close tonight if it's a little distance away from that
[11:36:01] <Reception123>	 well what I thought might be interesting would be some sort of official transparency audit of some sort, where Stewards check CUs to make sure that they're not being done too leniently, and that way keeping CU on loginwiki permanently could be more justifiable
[11:36:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> It doesn't have to be right now, but I'm saying anytime at all today, which could be what you preferred.
[11:36:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> stewards checking each other's usage is quite reasonable
[11:39:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> on the other hand if john wants to do the closes it's probably ideal given I did end up putting down strong votes
[11:40:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> that might have a wider range of happening, ie, could be tomorrow
[11:40:27] <Reception123>	 Yeah it's not an absolute urgency either, we don't need to count the seconds
[11:40:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> I'm actually quite happy for those 2 stepping up to the plate. And I would like to say sorry to BrandonWM for the way I lashed out at him within the past week. I feel like that was done shortly after @Doug / dmehus resigned, and nothing has been the same since his resignation.
[11:40:38] <Reception123>	 one day extra isn't going to do any harm
[11:41:24] <Reception123>	 I also think regarding this channel, for both DarkMatterMan4500 and BrandonWM it would preferable to stick to reporting and at most telling us who you think the sockmaster is, etc. but discussions and arguments between non-cvt members don't seem appropriate to me here
[11:42:22] <Reception123>	 there's not much use in debates like "I bet it's Apex", "No you're wrong", etc.
[11:43:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> I would agree, I don't mind a bit of informality but the moment it turns into a mess between non-functionaries the channel is essentially broken
[11:43:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> @Reception123 Yeah, even though I came out more useful in most cases, like digging up more diffs to get a strong progressive case last year, and even in 2022, I feel like I've improved a lot.
[11:44:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> this is not about standard reporting which we're encouraging be done, but arguments about the merits of reports between users and not setting a strong line for what the channel should be for
[11:44:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> I was naturally influenced by Doug.
[11:44:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> if it doesn't have merit then we'll look and report as such
[11:44:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> I was naturally influenced by Doug when I did so. (edited)
[11:45:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> even if this is a doug influence, you know the ranks in cvt are changing and with two stewards comes a preference to stick more strongly to the subject + let functionaries be the ones to tell people a report has no merit
[11:45:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Yeah, otherwise, we'd be re-living 2020 all over again.
[11:45:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> I don't see what the pertinence of 2020 is, just putting it out there
[11:46:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Yeah, I think we should probably stop here before we go off-topic. What do you think?
[11:50:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> I have an angle on the meta vandalism but if I'm right there is likely going to either be a third account or another account returning after seeing his vandalism wasn't helping, so that issue is pending
[11:51:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Okay then. 🙂
[11:54:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> for a CLG case I'm about to perform a mass lock after what I believe to be a successful confrontation with the puppetmaster
[12:03:23] <Reception123>	 I don't mind a friendly discussion and people presenting evidence of why X is likely a sock of X, that's perfectly fine and appropriate
[12:03:34] <Reception123>	 I just don't think two users arguing about who's right and who's wrong is appropriate
[12:03:53] <Reception123>	 a Steward/GS will determine that
[12:14:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> [[Special:CentralAuth/Scorreggianaikos l'4dmyn inutile che non serve ad un cazzo]] @CVT Looks like that same Nonciclopedia LTA has returned.
[12:14:45] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Scorreggianaikos_l%274dmyn_inutile_che_non_serve_ad_un_cazzo
[12:14:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Scorreggianaikos_l'4dmyn_inutile_che_non_serve_ad_un_cazzo>
[12:14:47] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Global account information for Scorreggianaikos l'4dmyn inutile che non serve ad un cazzo - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org
[12:15:16] <Reception123>	 locked
[12:15:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Thank you.
[12:29:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> [[Special:CentralAuth/Pol Piyá Cm]] @Stewards Quacking duck sockpuppet found, as it shares a username similarity to a locked user account, Pol Piyá, (a confirmed sockpuppet of Anti villain/Gigdsclasp/Idependient journalist) who's been editing on some of the same pages as that aforementioned account, and some of them overlap with Putin travels prevents his feces from falling into enemy hands (an account tha
[12:29:44] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Pol_Piy%c3%a1_Cm
[12:29:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/154496 (Pol Piyá Cm)
[12:29:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500>
[12:29:48] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Vladimir Putin: Difference between revisions - Real Life Villains Wiki | reallifevillains.miraheze.org
[12:29:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/154112
[12:29:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/154113 (Putin travels prevents his feces from falling into enemy hands)
[12:29:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500>
[12:29:52] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Vladimir Putin: Difference between revisions - Real Life Villains Wiki | reallifevillains.miraheze.org
[12:29:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/154073
[12:29:53] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Vladimir Putin: Difference between revisions - Real Life Villains Wiki | reallifevillains.miraheze.org
[12:29:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/153637 (Pol Piyá)
[12:29:55] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Vladimir Putin: Difference between revisions - Real Life Villains Wiki | reallifevillains.miraheze.org
[12:29:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500>
[12:29:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Vladimir_Putin&action=history (The number of batched socks that have edited here are remarkable.)
[12:29:56] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Vladimir Putin: Difference between revisions - Real Life Villains Wiki | reallifevillains.miraheze.org
[12:29:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500>
[12:29:58] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Vladimir Putin: Revision history - Real Life Villains Wiki | reallifevillains.miraheze.org
[12:29:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Also, a remarkable overlap can be seen between Dnehus (an impersonation account created by Anti villain) and Pol Piyá Cm makes this connection seemingly obvious:
[12:30:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/154486 (Pol Piyá Cm)
[12:30:01] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500>
[12:30:02] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Biphobia: Difference between revisions - Real Life Villains Wiki | reallifevillains.miraheze.org
[12:30:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> https://reallifevillains.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/147799 (Dnehus)
[12:30:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500>
[12:30:05] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Biphobia: Difference between revisions - Real Life Villains Wiki | reallifevillains.miraheze.org
[12:30:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> All-in-all, looks pretty obvious to me that there's some abuse happening here.
[12:30:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Pol_Piyá_Cm>
[12:30:07] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Global account information for Pol Piyá Cm - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org
[14:43:31] <BrandonWM>	 .mhca Vandy the anti-LTA
[14:43:32] <MirahezeBot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Vandy_the_anti-LTA
[14:43:53] <BrandonWM>	 raidarr, Orduin: ^
[14:44:18] <BrandonWM>	 might be our “old friend”
[14:44:27] <BrandonWM>	 if a GS could lock first though
[14:58:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <RhinosF1> @Orduin @raidarr (actually ping)
[15:01:46] <BrandonWM>	 gotcha
[15:02:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <MrJaroslavik> I was waiting for vandalism on the next wiki, so now locked
[15:55:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> I'm fairly sure all vandy/algeria abuse is cigar
[15:55:32] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> Can finalize/confront in the evening
[16:09:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <DarkMatterMan4500> Okay. And I also made my report against Pol Piyá Cm, and the similarities I have noticed from Pol Piyá (who was a confirmed sockpuppet of Idependient journalist/Anti villain/Gigdsclasp), and the similarity in usernames and editing patterns.
[16:28:20] <BrandonWM>	 MrJaroslavik: checked RC feed and you never locked
[16:29:31] <BrandonWM>	 oh wait mb i think you have the flooder perm
[22:57:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Muzz> Not only that, he hacked an administrator whois part of the other Logo community. Evidence is provided in DM.
[23:57:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <SelfCloak> AFAIK you should send an email to ts[at]miraheze.org