[01:55:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64> [1/2] Hmm...
[01:55:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1204606245055504494/image.png?ex=65d557fd&is=65c2e2fd&hm=5736695e0b53f01c4f6343a759d007993afa0833948df2e37a8a6bc54d2447ea&
[19:09:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64> Possible vandalism: https://superorbs.miraheze.org/wiki/Sex
[19:31:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> that whole wiki will be deleted in a few mins
[19:31:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> The initial approval is very iffy
[19:37:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to agentisai> Dang why delete this matterpiece
[19:38:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clindbartographer> if encyclopedia dramatica had a baby with itself
[20:25:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64, replying to agentisai> Something I'll keep in mind if I become a WC again in the future
[20:42:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blingbenzy, replying to tali64> Hi I own this wiki (under Antisoul). This was an action by a vandal possibly under a VPN. Im really confused as I didnt recieve any emails or messages warning me about the incoming deletion of the wiki.
[20:43:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blingbenzy> How would i appeal this?
[20:43:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blingbenzy> The user also added stuff about rape
[20:43:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64, replying to blingbenzy> I can't help with getting your wiki undeleted; please leave a message on the talk page of the Steward who deleted your wiki (Agent Isai)
[20:44:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> there really ought to be a standardized process for it ie, announcement of impending action with a period to clear out/get things changed and then after that set time deletion
[20:44:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> superorbs is not deleted on my end although the theme is weird to nonexistent
[20:44:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> oh I see now
[20:45:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yeah, non-critical deletions should be subject to a more drawn out period especially in cases where the wiki operator wants to appeal or even just move the stuff
[20:48:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to blingbenzy> @agentisai
[20:54:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> Pages like <https://superorbs.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze> do not instill confidence that the wiki would be used correctly
[20:54:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> also, an email was sent to the address on file for the requester
[20:55:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> even so, I would send the request back to the wiki request queue for additional processing as the scope is far too wide and the group documented is not elaborated upon which leaves your scope very wide
[21:02:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> our wiki's been vandalized by a troll what can i do
[21:02:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> link
[21:02:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to spryster> Which wiki?
[21:02:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> yea scroll up
[21:02:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> it's bling and i's
[21:02:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> omit the https
[21:02:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> we dont know how this happened someone literally just uploaded a page and titled it "Sex"
[21:03:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> that case is being addressed between agent and the wiki operator
[21:03:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> okay, how long does that take?
[21:03:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> if the both of you want to discuss it with agent you could make a small chat otherwise agent's prescription is to make a new wiki request to be reviewed
[21:04:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @spryster I don't think superorbs will come back
[21:04:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> wiki adminstrators & owners alike dont uphold responsibilities for vandals do they?
[21:04:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the deletion was not because of the vandalism
[21:04:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> This has very little to do with the sex page
[21:04:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> see the messages here; https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/443926951292567562/1204892871358939146
[21:05:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster, replying to rhinosf1> that wasnt even the only instance of vandalism
[21:05:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> where can i see the editor ip's
[21:05:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> we'll just tell you which ones are ours
[21:05:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> wiki operators don't browse ips
[21:05:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Based on my discussion with Agent, I do not believe a reasonable person would conclude that the wiki is going to be appropiate.
[21:06:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> The content used in the decision came from @blingbenzy
[21:06:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> there are two issues that need to be seperated: one is the vandalism, the other is the wiki deletion which was because of concerns regarding the wiki's scope
[21:06:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @raidarr check your pings
[21:06:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> in which case the wiki's deletion was at the same succession as the final instance of vandalism we got
[21:06:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> ?
[21:06:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @spryster the vandalism is not related to the decision to close
[21:07:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> i see
[21:07:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> On the basis of the actions of legitimate members of the wiki, I would not conclude that a reasonable person would determine that the wiki is going to comply with our policies and remain appropriate in its current form.
[21:07:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> not here to argue i just want some transparency as to how things were conducted before our page's removal
[21:08:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> have a good one
[21:08:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the sequence was pretty much that tali found the vandalism, agent looked over the wiki and saw chan-like content and a far too broad scope in its content, saw the inadequate wiki request and decided to delete
[21:09:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @spryster I would suggest you discuss a revised scope with @blingbenzy and a conduct + content guideline if you wish to have the wiki restored and to use Miraheze
[21:09:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <spryster> we're good
[21:11:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blingbenzy> the wiki is very much in an unfinished state as we have only started really working this week
[21:11:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blingbenzy> sorry to bother
[21:12:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @blingbenzy well you said enough within them few pages you wrote
[21:12:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blingbenzy> alright