[00:06:17] It happened again: https://greenday.miraheze.org/wiki/Green_Day_Wiki:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [00:13:48] What did? [00:13:51] That is so wierd [00:15:35] 1108 beat me [00:18:28] An abuse filter blocking that specific page from being created would be beneficial in the long run given how often it pops up in spam [00:20:30] Hm [00:24:30] Agreed. Maybe suggest to local sysops? [00:24:47] I meant a global abuse filter [00:25:18] Has this type occured on multiple wikis> [00:25:26] If so, I'd agree [00:25:38] Yes [00:26:29] https://polcompball.wiki/wiki/Special:Contributions/Killer_Kitty Might need some attention, I'm just looking into it myself [00:29:21] Uncaught spam: https://swgoh.miraheze.org/wiki/SWGOH_Tips:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [00:29:59] Hm, at this point may be worth searching the page title in #global-wiki-feed [00:30:48] https://wiki.s23.org/wiki/s23:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [00:31:11] https://pigalore.miraheze.org/wiki/PigaLore:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [00:31:22] oh [00:32:46] Looks like this user is blocked on many wikis for rape related reasons [00:32:53] I hate when I’m right [00:33:50] Hmmmmmm [00:34:02] Code of Conduct violation me thinks [00:34:11] Me thinks that to [00:37:45] It appears to all be from a few months ago, but a block was made recently on a wiki [00:37:55] I think theres some deleted evidence I cannot see [01:42:33] …sorry? [03:19:34] According to the block message on Polcompball, they keep asking others if they’ve been raped. [03:33:40] Hmm [03:33:50] Yep let's get a lock here please if not done already [03:34:40] Not a T&S violation, don't know why that was mentioned, just inappropriate and harassment [05:21:41] rape related reasons?? [05:24:16] I just looked and that is really something else [05:24:20] Wtf lmao [05:24:36] Also the spam that's added to these pages is very predictable [05:24:54] Always like we sell Instagram bots, hi wiki name we are from XYZ , etc. [05:31:44] Btw how'd you find all these? [06:07:11] Probably something like searching google with `site:miraheze.org Users blocked from the IP information tool` [11:31:08] Yeah ik its weird lol [12:18:50] DuckDuckGo and Google search [13:03:48] Wow the CVT feed is being flooded by uploads this morning [15:27:40] Ah I see [15:27:51] Makes sense [16:25:01] https://podpedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Podpedia:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [16:25:11] https://pokemonfakemon.miraheze.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9monFak%C3%A9mon:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [16:25:43] Might be a good idea to also search "We run an Instagram growth service" [16:30:35] https://aika.miraheze.org/wiki/Agent_AIKa_Wiki_talk:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [16:30:43] https://nssports.miraheze.org/wiki/NationStates_Sports_Wiki:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [16:34:05] https://aika.miraheze.org/wiki/Agent_AIKa_Wiki:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool both the project page and the project talk page have the spam in this case [16:35:56] https://littlebigplanet.miraheze.org/wiki/Category_talk:Tools_Bag/Gameplay/Connectors [16:36:53] https://majesticsongcontest.miraheze.org/wiki/Amnesiac [16:37:15] [1/3] This is what I'm searching btw [16:37:15] [2/3] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22We+run+an+Instagram+growth+service%22+site%3Amiraheze.org [16:37:16] [3/3] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Amiraheze.org+%22Users+blocked+from+the+IP+information+tool%22&t=fpas&ia=web [16:37:29] I'm going to add in more search engines and queries soon [16:37:57] Also I know DDG is just a mirror of Bing but the UI and privacy are objectively better [16:38:13] Startpage always makes me do a captcha unfortunately [16:42:00] https://rcsc.miraheze.org/wiki/Marika [16:43:24] [1/2] This one had the same spam but I just replaced the article with [[Category:Maintenance]] because it's a genuine article [16:43:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Maintenance [16:43:25] [2/2] https://littlebigplanet.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Articles_with_missing_information# [16:43:25] [16:43:47] wait bruh that's two spam pages on the same wiki [16:44:34] [1/2] Well I guess that's all of it [16:44:34] [2/2] https://littlebigplanet.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Search?fulltext=1&profile=default&search=growth+service [16:45:21] https://atlas.miraheze.org/wiki/Arlesian_corridor both this page and its talk page are spam and they've been up for a year [16:46:23] https://circuitbending.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Body_Contact [16:47:51] [1/2] Also most of these aren't Miraheze but this is sure an active spambot [16:47:51] [2/2] https://www.google.com/search?q=%22We+run%22+%22growth+service%22+inurl%3Awiki [16:55:37] Found by searching "growth service" in #global-wiki-feed: https://undumped.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Mr._Takarakuji [17:02:56] Ok I've scrolled through all the results for growth service in the global feed [17:03:03] Give me a second here to post it [17:03:39] Won't post deleted wikis and pages already linked to obvs so it'll take me a bit to clean out the list of pagds [17:03:50] https://izanagi.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Boss_Information [17:04:18] https://catacomb.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Dark_Designs [17:04:30] https://animebaths.miraheze.org/wiki/A_Certain_Magical_Index:_Genesis_Treatment [17:05:22] [1/2] side note in the logs here there's another spam phrase to search for later [17:05:23] [2/2] https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?page=Commons:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [17:05:32] https://respublica.miraheze.org/wiki/Twenty_Fifth_French_presidential_election [17:05:49] https://animebaths.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:A_Certain_Magical_Index:_Genesis_Treatment [17:07:17] [1/2] spam page that was blanked so maybe doesn't need to be deleted [17:07:18] [2/2] https://karniaruthenia.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:History/Talk:Ministry_of_Information [17:07:27] https://tsp.miraheze.org/wiki/%E6%A8%A1%E6%9D%BF:Resident_spotlight [17:07:40] https://ballaratpubs.miraheze.org/wiki/Hotels_of_Ballarat:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [17:08:04] [1/2] https://tiandi.miraheze.org/wiki/Tiandi_Encyclopedia:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [17:08:04] [2/2] different spam not sure why it came up in the search but still spam [17:08:41] https://secretsoftheshadows.miraheze.org/wiki/Secrets_Of_The_Shadows_Wiki:Users_blocked_from_the_IP_Information_tool [17:08:47] https://hyperrogue.miraheze.org/wiki/Salamander [17:08:53] https://catacomb.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Dark_Designs [17:09:17] https://rcsc.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Marika [17:12:01] [1/2] spam has been removed but wtf lmao, spambot changing its own text a few times [17:12:01] [2/2] https://theenglishlakes.uk/wiki/Special:History/The_English_Lakes:Contact_us [17:12:43] Maybe blocking "growth service" would be better for blocking this kind of spam [17:13:31] [1/2] Growth services isn't the only thing they spam though [17:13:31] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/443926951292567562/1212083066680516650 [17:13:51] https://godherja.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Anesimasios [17:14:22] https://respublica.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Connecticut [17:14:40] https://wackypedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Martin_O'Malley_2016_presidential_campaign [17:15:10] https://encyclopediaofastrobiology.org/wiki/Thesis [17:15:34] https://intercriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/InterCriaturas_talk:Administradores_de_comentarios [17:16:03] https://eurovision.miraheze.org/wiki/Contact [17:16:15] That is everything I found so far [17:16:25] @CVT a few dozen spam pages need to be deleted [17:17:59] And an abuse filter that blocks the words "growth service" from being submitted by nonconfirmed users is recommended [17:23:12] Agreed [17:23:45] Or just IP users, none of this has been from logged in users [17:26:56] [1/4] ``` [17:26:56] [2/4] we run(.|\n)(instagram|youtube) growth service(.|\n)(followers|subscribers) [17:26:57] [3/4] ``` [17:26:57] [4/4] regex [17:52:19] Just `growth service` will suffice [18:21:24] Sockpuppet of previously-banned user on Polandball Wiki: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/MarioPlayerIsBackForSomeMore [18:36:25] Can someone delete these pages? https://polandballwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/MarioPlayerIsBackForSomeMore [18:39:36] [1/2] Miraheze impersonation account [18:39:36] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Mirahazy [18:41:44] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Mayday & https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Maydayy appear to be socks [19:25:50] [[Special:CentralAuth/MarioPlayer1985ReturnsOnceAgain]] This account came before the former. [19:25:50] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/MarioPlayer1985ReturnsOnceAgain [19:25:51] [20:33:27] There could be a genuine use for growth service though [20:33:54] The spam all seems to match that regex [20:38:21] Every search but one for "growth service" on DuckDuckGo, Google, and the global wiki feed has returned spam; the only legitimate use of "growth service" I've seen is one mention in the RfC to ban IP editing by an established user, so a blanket ban on nonconfirmed users from submitting edits with "growth service" will suffice [20:38:42] Related: https://wikisauce.miraheze.org/wiki/2023%27s_Top_Instagram_Bots_(Cheap_%26_Safe)_-_Mass_Story_Viewing [20:38:50] Hmm ok [20:40:02] Also wow that's a lot of spam [20:41:19] It looks like digital marketing is part of the wiki's scope; IIRC that's a Content Policy violation [20:41:30] Oh cool the wiki has broken perms and I can just delete pages on it [20:41:33] I'll delete the spam [20:42:17] I once gave everyone admin rights on Decyclopedia for April Fools Day, but no one participated [20:42:22] Womp womp [20:45:03] https://wikisauce.miraheze.org/wiki/SETC.me is this genuine or a scam [20:45:14] not sure if i should delete it or not [20:45:19] looks fake though [20:46:23] Not sure https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/covid-19-related-tax-credits-for-paid-leave-provided-by-small-and-midsize-businesses-faqs [20:46:29] oh I see [20:46:40] https://setc.me/ well this is definitely not a government website [20:46:55] [1/3] oh yeah [20:46:55] [2/3] Please be advised that MY SETC is an independent entity and is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or in any way officially connected with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) or any government agency, nor any of their subsidiaries or affiliates. The official IRS website is located at www.irs.gov. The name “IRS” and any other related names, marks, emblems, and images are regi [20:46:56] [3/3] stered trademarks of the IRS and are used only for descriptive and informational purposes. [20:47:06] it's an ad [21:02:25] [1/2] How did THIS get approved?? [21:02:25] [2/2] https://selfemploymenttaxcredit.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [21:02:39] An entire wiki to advertise for-profit tax filing services [21:03:46] This is why you don’t review wikis at 4 AM [21:05:54] [1/2] @CVT https://aitoolsdirectory.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [21:05:54] [2/2] https://selfemploymenttaxcredit.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page (I removed the spam from the home page but I am pretty sure this entire wiki just exists to advertise tax services) [21:06:37] May want to report it on [[SN]] [21:06:37] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [21:06:39] [21:06:41] Alright [21:12:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/38635#mw-section-comments [21:13:20] I suppose it wasn't explicit on the for profit bit [21:13:35] Tbf the request seems more informative yeah not this is for promotion [21:17:16] Seems like it's not what the wiki is being used for [21:17:35] Actually the wiki creator just didn't make any edits [21:18:13] https://selfemploymenttaxcredit.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log/Joseppi this is literally all they did [21:18:27] Just created a group called "BROS" with every permission then left [21:18:31] Lmao [21:18:45] I think requesting deletion is appropriate [21:19:17] And then that spam guy who I blocked from that wiki where everyone is sysop (I fixed the wiki's permissions after cleaning it up) just started putting the ads for the .me site everywhere [21:19:22] Yeah [21:19:52] Oh so you had crat as well [21:19:58] That’s hilarious [21:19:59] Yeah [21:20:19] Well I didn't at first but I could add groups to myself so I gave myself every role so I could fix their permissions [21:20:25] Then I demoted myself once it was fixed [21:20:28] How did you like playing steward [21:20:33] Fun lmao [21:20:47] I wonder how many wikis manage to mess that up [21:20:58] Steward! Now with 100% less NDAs and permissions! [21:21:06] Same [21:21:08] Petition to allow under 18s to be Steward [21:21:28] it is theoretically possible [21:21:28] Can we extend to shell access as well lol? [21:21:29] Jk [21:21:44] segerate beta from prod fully [21:21:45] (I want to destory the Miraheze servers I am evil) [21:21:51] if it had no access to prod then sure [21:21:57] would actually be a smart idea [21:21:59] Isn’t it? [21:22:07] 75% [21:22:32] If CU and similar rights didn't apply it'd be possible but there's a proposal for global sysop to become mini steward basically [21:22:37] Without CU etc [21:22:44] @cosmicalpha is it just mem & db that still share server resources? [21:22:47] I am aware; in practice, however, signing an NDA with WikiTide Foundation has an explicit age requirement of 18 [21:23:00] Well if you were an emancipated minor [21:23:02] You could [21:23:03] Lmao [21:23:17] Actually is checkuser enabled on beta? If shell access included full database reading, that may give access to CU logs ergo need NDA [21:23:23] it is [21:23:30] Emancipated? [21:23:37] CheckUser is available but we could easily do what WMF do [21:23:51] and say beta doesn't have a proper privacy policy [21:24:00] It's a thing in the US where a minor with a consistent source of income who is mature enough can gain almost all the same rights and responsibilities as an adult [21:24:06] When in doubt see what WMF did [21:24:16] Interesting, and makes sense [21:24:25] Imagine having a job couldn’t be me [21:24:28] we test software on there all the time, beta is fairly likely to have security issues and faults at points [21:24:34] Emancipated minors would not be able to sign an NDA, that’s incorrect. [21:24:42] Oh [21:24:56] emanicaption would be a very weird case [21:24:56] It’s explicitly stated as the age of 18 years old in the text of the NDA page on Meta. [21:25:10] we could lower the age with certain controls [21:25:17] It’s more of a gray area, or should be, but the way it’s currently written, it would be 18. [21:25:21] but emanicapation is a messy legal issue [21:25:29] there is a lot more grey about that [21:25:33] Yep, for sure [21:25:39] and probably courts and lawyers involved [21:25:46] Well it depends on what we talking about ngl [21:25:53] I don't think we have any emancipated minors so it'd be kind of pointless unless someone actually wanted to run as an emancipated minor which would just be weird [21:26:02] Whether a minor can sign an NDA [21:26:09] There’s the matter of being allowed to sign according to WikiTide bylaws [21:26:28] And a separate matter of if they were allowed to sign, if it would be legally enforceable [21:26:36] [1/3] Probably the 2 best options are: [21:26:36] [2/3] 1) 16 or above, can sign [21:26:37] [3/3] 2) 13 or above, can sign with parent/guardian consent [21:27:02] Emancipation is a fairly extreme area of the law where you effectiely cease having a legal guardian. You'd have to show to a court (I would assume court of protection in the UK) that you can self sustain and that they are circumstances which mean your parents are unfit [21:27:03] if we’d move off 18 [21:27:10] and that the usual systems don't work [21:27:15] Hey mom can you help me sign this legally binding non disclosure agreement for Funi wiki? [21:27:18] or aren't in your best intrests [21:27:21] :Kek: [21:27:30] Yeah - this would be a family court issue in the US and the bar is set extremely high [21:27:31] anyone under 18 would need a cosignature [21:27:33] 16 year olds are thinking of signing NDAs nowadays? [21:27:37] I sure am getting old [21:27:46] That was the former policy under MHL I believe [21:27:51] 16 or above [21:27:54] Pass [21:28:24] i was under 18 when I signed MHL [21:28:38] MHL was fairly lax on NDA controls [21:28:50] I'd support 16-year-olds being able to sign NDAs as long as it doesn't cause legal issues; I don't believe 13-year-olds are capable of handling the roles that require NDAs (e.g. Steward or shell), so I oppose that [21:28:59] Yeah [21:29:00] i made my views clear previously that I thought it was an easily abusable proccess [21:29:12] Except in hyper extreme cases [21:29:19] Which I don’t care to consider [21:29:26] :thumbsup: [21:29:29] The US definitely has more stringent laws [21:29:37] It’s the Us [21:29:39] And arguably takes data privacy more seriously l [21:29:42] a minor signing an NDA would require controls to show they are competent enough [21:29:50] ye that's utter nonsense [21:29:52] Then the EU/UK? [21:29:57] data privacy is a state matter [21:30:02] That sounds… backwards [21:30:11] I believe California is the closest to GDPR [21:30:18] most are not near [21:30:19] yoops wrong word [21:30:20] Yeah [21:30:30] EU/UK law is pretty strict [21:30:38] living in california - COPPA is strict [21:30:45] Cali [21:30:55] COPPA is sensible [21:31:01] That's federal and just under 13s [21:31:08] It doesn’t matter regardless as under current Foundation policy, an election or request of rights would have to be successful prior to signing any NDA. [21:31:10] UK enforcement is very education led though [21:31:17] it could be a bit more heavy handed [21:31:21] which is the california one? [21:31:26] i get all these acronyms mixed [21:31:30] CCPA [21:31:34] ah yeah [21:31:43] I thought it was something like that [21:32:01] Isn’t COPPA the one proposed in Congress recently that’s totally bullshit? [21:32:09] COPPA is current law [21:32:13] You're thinking of KOSA [21:32:23] The word even looks uglier [21:33:32] This conversation should probably be in #general as it's not really related to CVT [21:33:50] Yeah lol [21:40:18] beta doesn't share mem with prod [21:40:29] Oh cool [21:40:32] What is shared now [21:40:39] db only [21:40:57] Makes sense [21:57:25] That'd be nice if we split that too [21:58:03] We may eventually, we have resources it's just not priority