[01:41:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to pixldev> Does this actually work from the relay?
[01:42:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> That's very bad if so. It's not intended to
[01:44:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> It's not supposed to ping roles as a security against things like everyone or here (I know those will not work) or verified wiki users
[01:46:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> Anyone want to try VWU?
[01:46:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> I’m not sure I want to find out
[01:47:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> I definitely don't. I don't think the bot has access to ping it but I'd rather the bot not rely on permissions.
[10:33:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <globe_x> I'm resisting the urge to try it
[15:07:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cacklettaguy1655, replying to brandon.wm> VWU?
[15:07:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> verified wiki user
[15:08:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cacklettaguy1655, replying to brandon.wm> Oh.
[18:10:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to cosmicalpha> I’m not sure
[18:50:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to cosmicalpha> Why'd it be bad to rely on permissions?
[19:04:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to koreirose> Because default permissions allow ping everyone here and all roles, so if it isn't changed on accident it could easily be pinged and its a bot that often times bots are granted admin or something I just don't like bots relying on permissions and being able to cause issues if permissions are wrong.
[19:05:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> Oh I see
[19:06:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to koreirose> I'll probably make it so the relay can't ping a role with IE over 20 members or something
[19:09:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose, replying to cloakedclover> Isn't it a bit strange that it requires you to compete a captcha to submit the form when one of the request reasons is captcha issues?
[19:14:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm, replying to cosmicalpha> Only roles that have that are VWU and Announcement pings
[19:18:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to brandon.wm> That's the point to still allow group roles to be pinged from IRC
[19:18:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <brandon.wm> yeah
[20:58:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin, replying to cosmicalpha> A manual configuration option could work too. A list of allowed roll pings would probably be my go to.
[22:36:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> https://degreesoflewdity.miraheze.org/wiki/CommentStreams:F7a3e089ff6af57d7db297b728ad59a0
[22:37:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> https://degreesoflewdity.miraheze.org/wiki/CommentStreams:6040d274e0e0f0a660ca1fea1aa3074b
[22:37:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <koreirose> @CVT spam