[00:00:54] Blank on its own is inadequate for deletion, but the edit summary makes a better case [00:01:18] Still prefer not to del unitl explicitly requested or needed [00:01:39] Bad keyboard [00:04:00] [1/4] I keep learning. [00:04:00] [2/4] I just thought it was an account for vandalism [00:04:00] [3/4] Just wanted it deleted as soon as possible. [00:04:01] [4/4] But I'll do that next time. [00:04:37] to me it's not a big deal; people are on hand, the information was already out, potential damage nonexistent [00:04:43] Good. So that way we won't have this discussion again. That's going in the right direction. [00:04:50] dmm, please stand down [00:04:59] or dfg I guess [00:05:10] "DFG"? [00:05:27] or... cg if we abbreviate your core username [00:05:34] you have basically three names now [00:06:04] probably going to stick with dmm to keep it memorable [00:06:15] Oh, right. You mean both "DarkFawfulGuy64" and "CacklettaGuy1655". [00:06:47] Of course it's memorable. As for what you said, I'll stand down. [00:45:51] did you actually enter an account with that [00:46:55] Logged in, then immediately logged out; the account in question has already been globally locked [00:47:07] oh [22:40:06] [1/2] https://minecraft.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/131.242.7.50 [22:40:06] [2/2] and now this is attracting vandals due to being known abandoned [23:08:26] Then you undo that? [23:11:58] think you missed the point, there are 0 active admins hence the term "abandoned" [23:12:04] oh that wiki [23:12:09] yes [23:12:14] yeah that's on the review list [23:15:41] I had no idea. Perhaps when receiving a new request for a wiki for Minecraft, propose overtaking it? [23:19:09] this was mainly to prove to stewards, yes needs to be reviewed and determine if worthwhile to continue hosting despite a independent wiki where the actual community resides. a good amount of content was imported from the old fandom wiki and this is vastly outdated material.. not a case of active and kept up to date [23:19:18] that would be standard process as an already existing wikis [23:19:35] problem is that there's no procedure for zombie wikis unless they have explicit content policy concerns [23:19:51] now if it is and has been overrun by some time, a removal could likely be issued without trouble on that [23:20:31] basically miraheze has never had consideration for out of platform wikis even if what miraheze is hosting is the inferior pet project of an exile from the 'real' community that will never hold up a candle [23:20:52] its been in dormancy loop, content is outdated, and keeping it only irritates the actual community now having to fight 2 outdated wikis [23:21:14] with the new google seo rules, this stings more [23:22:14] zombie wikis probably should have formal process along with some consideration for out of platform wikis [23:29:37] I'm inclined to issue a closure to that one and let it either be handled by dormancy policy or adopted by someone with a specific mission to clean the place up if that happens before natural deletion [23:34:13] [1/2] over the past 90 days and 5000 actions, there have been what I see as 4 valid edits by anons and the recent vandal actions. seeing as its been in limbo constantly and reset due to log actions, not sure if those 4 valid edits count in favor of dormancy. [23:34:14] [2/2] there has been a number of account creation or renames, those should not count as actual activity [23:36:29] [1/2] Why not ask around in the Minecraft communities whether to clean it up and close it off for anonymous writing. To use it as a central hub. [23:36:30] [2/2] It's a shame to let such subdomain go to waste [23:37:11] Minecraft.wiki is doing a great job personally I don't see a purpose for our mc wiki [23:37:21] Looks like a lot of work will go to waste also [23:37:22] minecraft japan is cool [23:37:25] account creations and renames do not/should not be taken by the counter [23:37:26] ok will get you up to speed on this. the real community is hosted by weird gloop and cook is part of that. cook assisted big time. he asked for a favor in shutting this down months ago [23:37:35] yet it is for whatever reason [23:37:42] since the only other jp minecraft wiki is still fandom [23:37:54] on cursory inspection most of the project is just imported from fandom: not as much work as you might think [23:37:55] my last count is at least 14 wikis moved [23:38:09] Yes [23:38:36] an error of process to take up with sre, from what I understand it's not supposed to happen [23:38:56] well the script is apparently impossible to understand [23:39:08] which one [23:39:12] 4 valid edits will reset the timer under normal conditions; I believe also that the wiki has gotten an extra lease because the script was just totally broke for a time [23:39:32] vandal actions and spam for that matter are leading ways a wiki can survive unfortunately [23:39:34] the dormancy script [23:39:49] I need to take another look at retro windows wiki, that place is a bloody mess and may never recover [23:39:57] it's not entirely impossible [23:40:00] going off ca [23:40:03] its only 20% [23:40:06] see ya [23:40:30] thought it was 20% understand, 80% can't [23:40:51] exactly [23:41:06] and in that condition, the script is of no good use [23:41:43] it works [23:41:48] its useful [23:41:51] additionally, cook asked via the real community to try to kill this [23:42:16] Understood [23:42:37] I mean would miraheze rather be on friendly terms or on unfriendly terms [23:42:47] so weird gloop guy and minecraft wiki both want it gone [23:42:47] probably moot at this stage [23:42:51] yes [23:43:06] cook was the one who was helping void a ton when the resignations happened [23:43:12] and the only thing in either path is 4 anons [23:43:32] that was based on last 90 days and 5000 results [23:43:43] pardon? [23:44:09] per above, the 4 anon edits are only thing that reset timer [23:44:26] I see its 2 inactive admins, whom apparently imported [23:44:54] [1/2] I'm off to bed! [23:44:54] [2/2] 💤 [23:45:17] well thats infuritating [23:45:38] Wiki is now closed, see https://minecraft.miraheze.org/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki:Community_portal [23:45:50] thank you [23:46:23] https://tenor.com/view/2omb-prayge-gif-24836248 [23:47:00] [1/2] i love css [23:47:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1235376964039217162/image.png?ex=663425f4&is=6632d474&hm=5f5be8930af29bd79168df2e4a4b5af6ce7e168f75584b0b13686f3f67130adf& [23:47:15] so does someone want to go to the minecraft wiki guys and let them know [23:47:46] sent cook a DM [23:49:05] may want to let them know its not 100 since someone could in theory reopen [23:51:07] I also informed a mcw admin as well [23:51:47] which one [23:51:47] It will take more than a new 0 edits account with a generic statement to do it [23:51:54] yea [23:52:12] harristic [23:52:25] Don't believe I know them [23:53:42] Actually the only MCW admin I think I know off the top of my head is Markus [23:55:01] I also informed MetalManeMc