[14:31:05] @Stewards Got a DCMA notification in Google Search Console, how does MH deal with this situation? I was redirected to here from #general. [14:31:48] general was probably fine too, but what does the DMCA say? [14:34:51] It doesn't specify much at all [14:34:56] Just has a lnk to https://lumendatabase.org/notices/41290981 [14:35:14] Which also doesn't say much at all either [14:36:39] That is weird thing 😮 [14:36:49] Hmmm, pretty sparse... [14:37:34] Click here to request access and see full URLs. Did you do this already? [14:37:40] Yeah I have the file [14:38:11] What does that state? You can redact private info [14:38:29] Or send it to NotAracham [14:38:36] He's a steward [14:39:14] And signed an NDA. [14:39:57] Oh hmm it lists the copyrighted works and the offending urls. Most of these are...something [14:40:10] Sure lemme DM the file over to NotAracham [14:52:18] Yeah, the fact that they didn't actaully specify the copyrighted or infringing URLs in the complaint means that a counter-notice is pretty darn likely to be successful... [14:55:29] [1/2] Yeah. Then that sounds like a warning then a rather actual DMCA. More like "We are following what you are doing" [14:55:30] [2/2] But try to avoid Copyvio's. [14:55:48] Having reviewed the file... 99% sure this is just garbage trolling. [14:56:44] False claim? [14:56:56] Putting it mildly, yes. [14:57:05] annoying [14:57:58] But hey, better be safe then sorry [16:10:34] [1/2] If what NotAracham said is true, then yes, a counter notice would probably be successful; however, doing so requires submitting your personal information, and submitting a counter notice opens you up to further legal liability if there was infringement. So while we can do our best to give advice, the best advice is to find an intellectual property attorne [16:10:34] [2/2] y if you're concerned about being sued or giving up personal info. [16:31:23] Fairly certain the claim is bogus; the real problem for me is sending personal info to this company which has no public internet presence, at least as far as I can tell. Seems like it would be kind of stupid to just hand out information like that. [16:32:12] If getting a lawyer is cheap (lol funny), then that would be an option otherwise we just take the L I guess [16:33:11] Yeah, can't really advise you to do underhanded stuff back like filing the counterclaim with fake info. It's really quite the dumb situation. 😦 [16:37:31] Don't want to mess around with legal stuff for sure. I find it a bit unfair that should I file a counter claim, they can see my info but I can't see theirs lol [16:45:47] Indeed that's how US law is [16:46:34] I mean if they want to sue you, they have to give their information then [16:46:42] But I'd imagine the RIAA and the rest with no sense of irony would be like "but if these criminals saw our personal information when we try to enforce our legal rights, we'd be in danger!" [16:46:55] Not necessarily their address [16:47:12] You could try contacting someone like the EFF or your local legal clinic for advice [16:47:32] Ya [16:47:55] Sadly Miraheze doesn't have external counsel we can recommend [16:48:03] Or in house counsel [16:48:49] Ideally we'd have counsel available and they'd be able to submit a counter claim for you [16:49:11] Lol maybe some day [16:50:10] I did read online that there are places that would do free 30 min consulting but I doubt they'd do anything of substance for free [16:52:13] @CVT https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/I_will_kill_TheSun42_if_he_don%27t_leave_now [16:52:22] Ya [16:53:51] There are some lawyers that take claims on a contingency fee basis of only paying if you win but I don't think they'd do for more uncertain cases like copyright cases & that only really applies to filing lawsuits and it'd be a lot of hassle to file a lawsuit and doing so would reveal your info either way [16:59:11] Yeah no thanks lol. If I didn't want to be (somewhat) anonymous, I wouldn't be using this account [16:59:30] I'd regularly hide a death threat username but following a CU I'm quite convinced it's TheSun himself [17:00:02] @reception123 still should be hidden [17:00:13] Fair [17:00:42] Are you sure it's TheSun and not one of the alts with a similar name to him? [17:00:57] I mean I guess it doesn't hurt to hide [17:01:12] oh I see another steward handled in the meantime? [17:02:23] I did, yep [17:02:42] Was about to poke about in CU-land to confirm, but I have similar suspicions [17:12:31] Pretty clearly cycling through VPN endpoints, sadly. 😦 [17:19:32] The real one is https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=TheSun42 [17:19:41] Fake ones are TheSuns42 etc [17:20:03] well they're not "fake", they're socks [17:20:37] or am I not fully familiar with it and in fact there is a real "TheSun42" and all the other alts are an LTA/impersonator? [17:22:01] Yes [17:22:13] The real TheSun42 is an admin of several RWs [17:22:21] I don't know much about him [17:22:54] And the LTA from what I can tell is one of the trolls on the reception wikis [17:23:09] Oh I see, I thought TheSun42 was just the master LTA account [17:23:29] Ah ok [17:25:27] Collei has it correct, there's one person that's real, the LTA has an extreme dislike of them and has created loads of copycat/name impersonation type things [23:20:56] No it’s not the sun themselfs it’s a vandal plus why would they want to kill themselfs [23:21:29] already explained [23:21:34] Ok good [23:21:42] But yeah the sun accounts [23:21:52] Are the one vandal that keeps coming back [23:21:57] On the character wikis and music wikis [23:22:42] Btw can i have some explaintion on the kill theSun account situation [23:24:50] So I want an update on the situation of the kill TheSun account and know as I have no knowledge on Weather they are locked or not. [23:25:18] That account was locked and the username was hidden [23:25:52] thank you I will now put my report as done. [23:30:50] @CVT https://www.bluepageswiki.org/wiki/A_message_to_all_of_r/chuckecheese - quite an interesting rant, but it's out of scope for the wiki and most likely vandalism [23:34:34] Yup it definitely is one [23:34:43] Look at the writing [23:35:21] It’s similar to other vandals that write that way. [23:38:24] https://www.bluepageswiki.org/wiki/Family_Dollar_5901 this is also vandalism [23:42:38] Reverted.