[01:58:01] Welcome! [10:52:54] Funvasion seems to have a lot of vandalism that needs to be cleaned up. [10:52:59] Could I be granted admin rights? I am already an administrator on three Wikimedia projects. [10:55:16] [1/2] we do not grant local admin rights and I fear it's the same with global groups, although you can certainly try your luck [10:55:17] [2/2] I do feel like you could see success with nominating yourself for Global Patroller to start [10:59:30] I’m not quite sure about Global Patroller, as I only started contributing yesterday. Also, the local bureaucrats on that project are inactive, so I’m unsure how to proceed. [11:00:19] Additionally, the admins there are inactive, which makes cleanup requests difficult. [11:01:01] then you do the following: [11:01:12] [1/2] rampant unchecked vandalism: https://funvasion.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges? [11:01:12] [2/2] @CVT [11:32:58] I've done a lot of patrolling and I still do to this exact day. [11:34:27] Simply blocking a singular IP alone isn't enough, I am afraid. [11:37:47] Might need to delete the irrelevant pages they created. [11:41:56] I am planning to create a request page for CVT requests on the wiki, which will make the process easier. [12:07:14] I'm not well verse with the funvasion topic, so I didn't check that wiki [13:07:03] Was this tackled by DMM or someone else? (Just seeing this now as I have to leave the house so I can’t actually look rn but I may be able to sneak in a block) [13:07:51] (I have thoughts on this probably I will reply later with) [13:27:48] I have prepared a page, but I cannot publish it due to an abuse filter. [13:29:02] For now, I will create it in my namespace. [13:36:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Saroj/Counter_Vandalism_Team/Requests [13:36:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Saroj/Counter_Vandalism_Team/Requests/header [13:38:32] @pixldev Please check this and move it to the main namespace. [14:39:11] I don’t know if an on wiki notice board is the best way to report vandalism that needs simple but immediate attention [14:39:19] Mainly because of speed [14:39:30] To be clear, I don’t want to force these onto discord [14:41:31] But having another on wiki page for us to go onto and check would not be swift, especially given all the noticeboards we’re already watching [14:42:18] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443926951292567562/1488549002147532821/image0.jpg?ex=69cd2eca&is=69cbdd4a&hm=1f0320c2832439231675d0f52115767e2c40f8d969054c7a2844d7520e164c40& [14:42:21] But I’m thinking on it [14:42:42] For things that need more investigation and especially CheckUsers, definitely on wiki since that gets lsot [14:43:03] I understand. We can use the noticeboard for non-urgent reports, for example repeated spam or long-term vandalism. [14:43:25] (I’m also not entirely dismissing your idea, I just want to work out something that works best for users and CVT ^^) [14:43:42] That makes sense to me [14:44:12] I think that may actually fall under Steward Requests/Global but I’m not sure [14:44:21] Since those would be requesting locks [14:49:22] Regardless I do appreciate you taking initiative to improve these things we haven’t really looked into improving in a while :) [14:50:08] SRG might not be good; this page can be used to request assistance from CVT members for deletion, blocking, and sometimes protection if needed. [14:50:30] True [14:50:41] I actually made a similar ish page a long time ago that got no use [14:50:48] I don’t even remember if it’s in mainspace [14:51:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Conservatorship_Requests it is [14:52:06] The conservatorship concept needs some serious reconsideration lol, but not urgent [14:57:08] It may be worth considering that sometimes vandalism and spam on small wikis go unnoticed, and when local admins are inactive, patrollers can also use this page in such cases. [14:57:39] I don’t know how much use this would see by users, but I’m very open to having it as an option (anything to reduce explicit reliance on discord is nice, and we can link to IRC/email for more immediate actions) [14:58:12] Though the overlap with SR/G and /CU is something to probably draw lines for and specify [14:59:23] I do wanna hear the thoughts of CVT and the other stewards though since adding a new venue affects us (especially stewards) a lot [15:00:52] Sure, I agree. [15:02:07] I’ll forward this to and ping in the internal CVT discussion channel so it doesn’t get mistaken for a request in this channel [15:03:24] SRG and CU serve different purposes, so this would complement them by handling general vandalism and spam cases that don’t need CU or SRG-level action. [15:03:48] Thanks, appreciate it. [15:05:24] i think we could implement a common CVT/SR queue (sortable by type) to MirahezeRequests but we're still a month or two away from that [15:08:59] Mmmm, some things on SR yes, things like this I’m not sure about moving [15:09:01] But will see [15:09:28] Do you have a repo or prototype of MirahezeRequests actually? Really curious to see how that’s coming along/how it works [15:11:07] accountrequest probably would be in a semi-servicable state but I made the decision to move to codex which pushed the timeline significantly [15:11:51] all of our request type extensions currently use OOUI so I can't just steal half the codebase [15:12:51] Why.. [17:11:37] I've added some requests. Please feel free to clean them up. [17:11:39] I'm planning to patrol several small wikis in the coming days. [18:04:23] this https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Saroj/Counter_Vandalism_Team/Requests is a lot [19:17:56] There are even more pages that need to be cleaned up. I will patrol them after a few days. [19:27:49] [1/2] Are all of these necessarily CVT matters? [19:27:49] [2/2] 4 just looks like linking to a page that hasn't yet been created, for example (albeit that redirect is 4 years old, but that could just be future proofing). [19:28:01] I dont see why dozens of broken redirects and empty pages are something that needs our attention to be fair [19:30:02] Clicking into some of these at random, I'm not seeing where the actual vandalism is. [19:36:48] [1/2] Unless these pages serve no purpose for the wiki? [19:36:48] [2/2] But surely it'd be quicker to just clean it up than report it, since most of this stuff seems pretty old. [19:42:20] I just sent a report on the TSPortal. [22:34:35] probably the better mechanism for all of this is partial automation of the request, management system etc so its more automatic in processing and 'systemic' how it works like reception and I have chatted about a few times [22:34:56] which is something we'd like to do with the SR in general, where certain activities can't just automate as queues altogether [22:35:24] the mirahezerequests business that came after seems like steps in that direction