[16:17:37] @Ugochimobi I think we're spamming the cvt channel so i want to continue the convo on here [16:17:46] What are the guidelines for being included on FAMEpedia? [16:18:07] That's true [16:18:19] I see many people go to Commons from FAMEpedia and try to self-promote [16:18:34] I thought anyone could be on FAMEpedia but now I'm unsure [16:19:26] Nothing really much, FAMEPedia is just an encyclopedia too. So main Articles should be written from a NPOV, and so on. [16:19:49] I don't think I am notible [16:20:11] So would writing an article about yourself be allowed? [16:20:24] (not that I want to btw :P) [16:22:01] Yes, It surely allowed but from a neutral point of view, Not writing as self-promotion, that's why many articles on Wikipedia are been deleted. [16:22:22] you can read this article [[mh:famepedia:FP:NPOV]] [16:22:22] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/famepedia:FP:NPOV [16:22:23]

https://famepedia.miraheze.org/wiki/FP:NPOV [16:22:25] [url] FAMEPedia:Neutral point of view - FAMEPedia | famepedia.miraheze.org [16:22:42] Ah, I see, thanks! [16:28:14] https://en.famepedia.org/wiki/Godrej_Properties_Limited - would you consider this advertsing or in-scope for FAMEpedia? [16:28:32] [url] Godrej Properties Limited - FAMEPedia | en.famepedia.org [16:38:08] I wonder how mediawiki 1.35.2 eeven works with php 8.0 CLI when php .8 is not even supported yet to my knowaghe [16:38:47] Hm, seems like the FAMEPedia logo has changed. [16:38:54] For such articles that talks about a company, If the company passes Notability, and has citations from reliable sources, then why not [16:42:31] Where did the wiki's pages come from? [16:43:22] I think most of them are forks of WP pages [16:43:37] Meh, I am not "notiable" [16:44:38] oh, alright, thanks! [16:45:16] I've noticed a lot of imported Wikipedia articles on there but at least they attribute it as coming from Wikipedia so I guess that's all that matters [16:46:10] You don't even need to be told that. at least there lies attribution. [16:49:46] I would not notice an imported page, even if it was stareing me in the face] [16:50:07] same, I thought they had been written by users on there [16:50:49] Imagine have a Wikipedia-like encyclopedia and then when it comes to reading about policy pages, we'll now redirect them to Wikipedia. So that's why we should have ours, though from wikipedia [16:51:38] But the good thing is, If your want a modification of any policy or something, it can be discussed on the pages' talk then we seek consensus. [16:51:57] My wiki has no real policies besides a bunch of rules/things that are overused in a doc I send to all paid writers and volunteers (if they ever appear) [16:52:23] I am not excaly expecting anyone to turn up and start editing anyway [16:52:34] You accept paid writers? [16:52:45] Yes, as I am unable to get volunteers [16:53:04] I pay writers to write lore for me [16:53:17] That's not bad though [16:53:55] I mean, people showing up to edit would be unsual [16:54:27] oh wow, you have paid editors [16:54:29] i did write a bunch of help & policies page for my wiki [16:54:30] it was painful [16:54:34] I've never encountered a wiki with such [16:54:49] But the reason why users are scarce on wikis like that is because of that paid stuff I get new users on FAMEPedia everyday and they edit though sometimes crazily, but I believe with laid down guidelines, they'll learn how to write good articles in the future [16:54:54] but as long as they work and you're happy with it, everything's fine [16:55:09] I hire them on freelancing sites for a small sum per chunk of 50,000 words [16:55:26] At February this year I was having about 600+ users registered but now it's about 800+ and counting [16:55:35] Dayum [16:55:41] That’s cool [16:55:46] i have [16:55:47] 1 [16:55:48] I have no other way of getting writers, even with adverts and the like (pid writers write lore, and I pay) [16:55:49] myself [16:55:49] Well I don't really like paid writing shit though [16:56:10] 😅 [16:56:43] I have tried seeking volunteers,m anbd besides a guy I met on dA that wrote about 300,000 words, the rest wrote less then 20,000 mostly [16:56:46] https://pokemundo.miraheze.org/wiki/Ajuda:Pok%C3%A9mundo pain [16:56:49] [url] Ajuda:Pokémundo - Pokémundo | pokemundo.miraheze.org [16:56:52] but at least i finished it [16:57:00] I think writers will actually come in the future, all you need is consistent writing on the wiki. [16:57:04] Lake, how did you center the logo in lakehub? [16:57:10] I posted adverts each day on the dA forums and now I am posting on cragslist and eslewhere [16:57:32] modified the flex flow [16:57:35] used a pseudoselector [16:57:42] justified some content [16:58:02] css .container:nth-child(1) > .row:first-of-type { flex-flow: column; justify-content: center; text-align: center; margin: .5rem 0; } [16:58:07] Oh wow. I'm not sure thats the point. The point is if your wiki is cool, enough to attract new users [16:58:30] of course, this means that I cannot use the .container class anymore, but tbh I rarely use that on Bootstrap [16:58:31] Chameleon.css? [16:58:35] yes [16:58:42] This is located in your Common.css? [16:58:44] PMy wiki does have an oddd system where you have to claim pages to write (tell em and I do the rest) (I would accept an edit as an intent to claim) [16:58:47] Chameleon.css [16:59:01] I prefer having 1-3 writers per lore page mac [16:59:23] I won't mind 3-5 though as long as the lore is not a mess [16:59:25] I regret turning on 2FA for my account [16:59:36] and of course, I made a smaller version of my logo [16:59:41] god bless vectors [16:59:46] 2FA is good [16:59:47] Why? [16:59:53] 2FA ftw [17:00:09] PMy wiki does have an oddd system where you have to claim pages to write (tell em and I do the rest) (I would accept an edit as an intent to claim) [17:00:25] I have multiple devices [17:00:34] This is why you use Authy, so that you can sync them [17:00:58] You could syc between them [17:01:07] I also have multiple devices [17:01:24] My mobile continues from where I stop on desktop [17:01:47] and my PC continues from where I stop on mobile Lol [17:01:52] but tbh, the most annoying part for me is to manage files [17:02:09] i hate to upload a file, have to put a description and a license [17:02:11] all the time [17:03:05] What was the size of it? [17:03:45] Most of the time, I’m on mobile [17:04:01] And when I’m on PC is when I’m doing some coding stuff. [17:04:12] The reason for that is, so that if forexample you created that image by yourself and it's a personal image, without a license, no one will know how to use it elsewhere and by so doing you might not be happy with that. But with a description and license, once a user visits that image, they knows how to use. [17:04:14] 150x40 [17:04:31] yeah, I understand, I just think it's too tiresome [17:04:33] Okay, thanks [17:04:40] especially when you have a lot of images [17:05:30] https://pokemundo.miraheze.org/wiki/Categoria:Arte_de_jogos another pain [17:05:32] [url] Categoria:Arte de jogos - Pokémundo | pokemundo.miraheze.org [17:05:45] Sure, it is though [17:06:02] but it saves you from being hurt when your personal images are used without your consent [17:06:03] lol [17:06:29] i suppose so [17:07:28] I don't want to link to my finished wiki yet, as it is not ready [17:08:02] that's right [17:08:11] Huh [17:08:43] It does kinda change a lot time to time (yesaday, ut was a major category name and system change [17:08:54] i think they meant "that's alright" [17:09:43] ah, thanks plus I'm He, not They. Lol [17:09:58] I don't really want to make it in "relese stage" yet, as I feel like it is in a "closed beta" stage still (still lots of kinks to iron out_ [17:12:09] Not as bad as before. Someone called me a she. At least they’re using Gender Neutral terms. [17:13:13] 😅 That's true though. [17:16:41] How can I avoid mulpile users each writing conflicting lore? [17:16:54] feel ya lol [17:17:19] The reason I have a system where one-three people "claim" an article is to avoid one person writing stuff and someone esle wriutingh something fully diffant [17:17:37] that's almost impossible though [17:17:46] I try my best [17:18:00] I refer to everyone as they because I'm unaware of what gender anyone is [17:18:12] but now I know to use he with you, noted [17:18:32] I have had problems with confilcting lore on the same article before, but nboth times I was able to fix it in a way tyo use both [17:19:03] hmm [17:19:34] For one, I made the muations diiffant generations of the clan's history, and the 2nd time, I made each a story of how the clan might of been founded [17:20:29] I am not able to abanon paid writers (not without a damm huge infex of volunteers that can follow rules and claiming and all) [17:20:52] Thanks😉 [17:21:06] i feel a bit bad for abandoning my wiki [17:21:13] i done so much with it [17:21:33] but it's a bit hard to maintain a project like that with just one person [17:21:34] Why did you abandon it? [17:22:34] Why'd you leave it? [17:22:56] I am not willing to abandon the page claiming system that I have used for 3+ years [17:23:03] well, because I can't create over 10k pages myself, mostly [17:23:11] especially when the topic is Pokémon [17:23:12] I would be unable to help sorry [17:23:35] (i am not seeking for help by the way, my wiki is not even in english) [17:24:24] Well I have this spirit of things will be better in the future and I wouldn't advice abandoning any wiki, lol You can just be updating wiki once in a while [17:25:10] Lol, I noticed that when I visited the wiki plus I wasn't even able to create my own userpage. [17:26:28] yes, I actually modified some permissions recently [17:26:34] I will see what I can do with this [17:26:53] at the moment I'm just updating Lakehub (my personal wiki), and helping some wikis outside of MH [17:27:10] I see 👀 [17:27:56] What lore would you like to see for my world? [17:28:23] So @Agent I hope you come to FAMEPedia soon, to join cleanup vandalism😋 🍉 [17:29:54] I'm definitely considering joining you all over on FAMEpedia to help cleanup some vandalism [17:30:22] especially because a lot of vandalizers on there like to then go to Commons [17:31:52] Yeah, I'm also concerned about that. [17:32:12] Kinda glad no one vandelizes my wiki [17:32:19] Same [17:33:01] I recently imported my old wiki from Orain and I found that I had accidentally also imported some very old spam pages [17:33:03] lol [17:34:16] I do prefer people to comiit to doing at lest a whole page, and not just 100 words [17:35:03] lol [17:35:35] It's very important and you should be glad. Lol [17:38:41] I hope I get some editors [17:38:52] You should [17:39:09] Firing the paid writers is not a possable choice [17:39:44] A snake's face from its eye to its nostrils. I'd love that [17:40:16] I can't fire the paid writers though as they provade 100k+ words of lore amonth each month [17:42:17] You should not though [17:42:37] I doi not undertsnad [17:43:19] I mean, you should not fire your paid writers [17:43:34] Ok [17:44:38] 👍 [17:45:57] For some reason, Template:Colored box/style.css doesn’t show the code editor [17:47:19] on which wiki/? [17:49:41] securitywiki [17:50:50] [[mh:security:Main Page]] [17:50:50] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/security:Main_Page [17:50:51]

https://security.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [17:50:52] [url] Securipedia | security.miraheze.org [17:52:25] The extension is on, and for other .css pages, it works, but this one doesn’t [17:52:59] You deleted the page already? [17:53:39] I was reviewing your wiki yesterday when it got created, I'm interested in contributing to it 👀 [17:53:39] Multiple times [17:55:02] Not sure if it’s a bug. If it is, I’ll see if the extension has a Phab project, and then I can report it [17:56:59] Same here though [18:23:06] How could I make my main page better without css? [18:23:13] https://quyraness.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [18:23:14] [url] Quyraness | quyraness.miraheze.org [18:24:56] CSS is a cascade style sheet and It only makes the page look better. Except you don't really want a good layout of your mainpage [18:25:41] Can't make it good on moblie as well without templatesytles [18:26:08] you need styles no matter what. lol [18:26:25] Don't want to have to install too many extsaions [18:26:46] (On the self hosted wiki that this wiki is a unfinished content wiki for_ [18:27:25] How could I make it better without csss [18:32:51] w/o css you go web 1.0 lol [18:33:19] Seeing as I can't do much with the CSS I haver, it is either that or use a css that I am unable to alter [18:34:18] if don't wanna keep css separately then you'll have to put style= everywhere [18:35:23] Lool [18:36:36] https://quyraness.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [18:36:38] [url] Quyraness | quyraness.miraheze.org [18:36:43] This is what I have using an old css so far [18:39:49] What do you think of the page using old css [18:40:29] I suggest you to protection on main page [18:40:56] your divs do miss some paddings [18:41:33] @Lake Can you help by adding a cople more boxes to my main page under the main page boxes that exist [18:41:55] I would need to whole page code as I am unable to add more boxes without messing up the css [18:42:22] you mean html? there is literally no css [18:42:37] I think it is css [18:43:05] your main page is set of div blocks w/ styles [18:43:06] Whatever it is, I am unable to alter it without lake's help [18:43:20] Swrs, that's what I found out. lol [18:43:35] I can't code, so I have to have it made for me, it is that or no css [18:43:51] It's quite sinple though [18:43:59] I am not intersted [18:44:18] have you tried? [18:44:27]