[00:04:37] You do know that you can't make a CNAME to a directory, right? [00:05:19] I [00:05:26] Not imporant right now [00:05:35] How do I fix the error as said above [00:05:41] It could be the issue [00:05:47] But I’m no expert [00:05:48] will try [00:05:56] I think I deleted that anywayu [00:06:43] How do I fix the error I am having as said above? [00:07:55] @Agent Do you know? [00:08:06] which error? [00:08:18] An error occurred while updating Akismet Anti-Spam: Unable to locate WordPress plugin directory. [00:08:25] define('DB_NAME', 'wordpress'); define('DB_USER', 'wordpress'); define('DB_PASSWORD', '<[password[>'); define('DB_HOST', 'localhost'); define('DB_COLLATE', 'utf8_general_ci'); define('WP_CONTENT_DIR', '/usr/share/wordpress/wp-content'); define( 'FTP_USER', 'ftpuser' ); #most likely not necessary, can be entered in > define('FTP_PASS', 'banshee'); define( 'FTP_HOST', '107.191.98.179' ); [00:08:26] define('FS_METHOD', 'ftpext'); define( 'FTP_BASE', 'wwwroot' ); #the bind mounted directory to /var/www/wordpr> define( 'FTP_CONTENT_DIR', 'wwwroot/wp-content/' ); #the relative path as see> define( 'FTP_PLUGIN_DIR ', 'wwwroot/wp-content/plugins/' ); #see above ?> [00:09:40] try changing FS_METHOD to direct [00:09:43] Best bet is to go to a support forum relating to WP [00:09:55] I need stuff now that does not need a new login [00:10:43] An error occurred while updating Akismet Anti-Spam: The update cannot be installed because we will be unable to copy some files. This is usually due to inconsistent file permissions. akismet.php, wrapper.php, class.akismet-widget.php, readme.txt, class.akismet-cli.php, _inc, _inc/akismet.css, _inc/akismet.js, _inc/form.js, _inc/img, _inc/img/logo-full-2x.png, index.php, .htaccess, class.akismet.php, [00:10:43] class.akismet-admin.php, views, views/setup.php, views/enter.php, views/stats.php, views/start.php, views/title.php, views/connect-jp.php, views/config.php, views/predefined.php, views/get.php, views/activate.php, views/notice.php, class.akismet-rest-api.php - progess at lest [00:11:13] alright, we're getting somewhere [00:11:15] woot [00:11:47] Ok, so what next? [00:12:35] are you able to manually change permissions? [00:12:40] yes [00:12:44] I have root [00:12:54] oh [00:12:56] neat [00:12:57] well then [00:13:06] It’s locally hosted [00:13:13] set the permissions to 755 [00:13:19] i thought it was on some host [00:14:16] @TheBurningPrincess [Taerel] set the permissions to your _inc and views folder to 755 [00:14:28] Where are those? [00:14:42] probably in the wordpress directory or in the plugins directory [00:15:09] I wish I had shell access [00:15:24] are you hosting your wiki on a hosting service? [00:15:33] Hosting service [00:15:38] i see [00:15:43] is it a free one or one you pay? [00:15:50] Free [00:16:11] i've managed to work around it, for years, I hosted my wikis on the Hostinger free plan [00:16:16] neat [00:16:25] the what [00:16:39] https://www.hostinger.co.uk [00:16:40] [url] The Hosting Platform Made For You - Go Online with Hostinger | www.hostinger.co.uk [00:16:43] i hosted on there [00:16:45] my website [00:16:47] Jeez 2018 would have been better if I knew about that [00:16:47] for free [00:16:57] My poor poor wallet [00:17:17] how much did you pay back then for hosting? :thinkingcp: [00:17:30] 10 bucks a month I think [00:17:57] o [00:17:57] An error occurred while updating Akismet Anti-Spam: The update cannot be installed because we will be unable to copy some files. This is usually due to inconsistent file permissions. akismet.php, wrapper.php, class.akismet-widget.php, readme.txt, class.akismet-cli.php, _inc, _inc/akismet.css, _inc/akismet.js, _inc/form.js, _inc/img, _inc/img/logo-full-2x.png, index.php, .htaccess, class.akismet.php, [00:17:58] class.akismet-admin.php, views, views/setup.php, views/enter.php, views/stats.php, views/start.php, views/title.php, views/connect-jp.php, views/config.php, views/predefined.php, views/get.php, views/activate.php, views/notice.php, class.akismet-rest-api.php [00:17:59] wat [00:18:26] I would be happy just ditching that plugin [00:18:27] you can get an 8GB RAM, 512GB HDD, 1TB bandwidth server for $8.99/mo [00:18:35] Lord and lady [00:19:07] did you chmod 755 the plugin's folder? [00:19:37] \oh let me try [00:20:10] An error occurred while updating Akismet Anti-Spam: The update cannot be installed because we will be unable to copy some files. This is usually due to inconsistent file permissions. akismet.php, wrapper.php, class.akismet-widget.php, readme.txt, class.akismet-cli.php, _inc, _inc/akismet.css, _inc/akismet.js, _inc/form.js, _inc/img, _inc/img/logo-full-2x.png, index.php, .htaccess, class.akismet.php, [00:20:10] class.akismet-admin.php, views, views/setup.php, views/enter.php, views/stats.php, views/start.php, views/title.php, views/connect-jp.php, views/config.php, views/predefined.php, views/get.php, views/activate.php, views/notice.php, class.akismet-rest-api.php [00:20:24] try restarting the webserver too, idk if it'd make a difference [00:21:33] Nope no changes [00:21:51] aaaaa [00:22:06] i'm so close to suggesting chmod 755'ing the whole wordpress folder [00:22:07] um [00:22:08] hmm [00:22:15] Can't even delete the dammed plgin [00:22:19] try chown'ing the wordpress folder to www-data [00:23:09] No changes [00:23:22] Can I just rm -rf the plugin? [00:23:24] ? [00:23:56] if you really want to, go for it [00:24:05] No need fror it really [00:24:39] ah, now its gone. Good riddance you supid plugin [00:43:44] @Agent https://107.191.98.179/blog/wp-admin/themes.php [01:14:59] @Agent Are you here, my error is : Fatal error: Uncaught ArgumentCountError: array_merge() does not accept unknown named parameters in /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/widgets.php:1261 Stack trace: #0 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/widgets.php(1261): array_merge() #1 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/widgets.php(1216): retrieve_widgets() #2 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/class-wp-hook.php(290): [01:15:00] _wp_sidebars_changed() #3 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/class-wp-hook.php(312): WP_Hook->apply_filters() #4 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/plugin.php(478): WP_Hook->do_action() #5 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/theme.php(2964): do_action() #6 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/class-wp-hook.php(288): check_theme_switched() #7 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/class-wp-hook.php(312): WP_Hook->apply_filters() #8 [01:15:00] /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/plugin.php(478): WP_Hook->do_action() #9 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-settings.php(523): do_action() #10 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-config.php(59): require_once('...') #11 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-load.php(37): require_once('...') #12 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-blog-header.php(13): require_once('...') #13 /usr/share/wordpress/index.php(17): require('...') #14 {main} thrown in [01:15:01] /usr/share/wordpress/wp-includes/widgets.php on line 1261 There has been a critical error on your website. [01:31:06] hostinger, ay [01:31:44] How can I solver that probelm above [01:32:20] You're best off contacting cloudflare or if we're onto wordpress issues, a dedicated wordpress support group. I'm afraid either domain is outside my interest/skills. [01:32:25] K [01:32:44] Otherwise, I might just stick with the hosted wordpress [02:11:24] Generally indicates that a plugin is causing a fault [02:11:33] Hostinger ❤️ [02:12:24] yes, yes indeed [02:12:42] GoDaddy refugee support center for sites that only knew that GD exists :p [02:13:33] I once won a free .xyz domain from them [02:13:37] How charitable [02:13:40] :sannse: [02:14:21] Fixed that, now got 403 forbidden [02:14:46] I just like being able to drop projects over there rather easily, though I don't go as far as using them for file handling; that I reserve for a different host, though I'm tentative on the choice [02:14:58] gonna call it a night here, though [02:15:28] I fixed that error, now it is 403 forbidden errors [02:15:37] Forbidden You don't have permission to access this resource. Apache/2.4.41 (Ubuntu) Server at taerel.com Port 443 [02:17:34] Thu Jul 15 02:13:39.565248 2021 pid 43336 AH01276: Cannot serve directory /usr/share/wordpress/: No matching DirectoryIndex (index.php) found, and server-generated directory index forbidden by Options directive Thu Jul 15 02:14:01.359098 2021 pid 43337 AH01276: Cannot serve directory /usr/share/wordpress/: No matching DirectoryIndex (index.php) found, and server-generated directory index forbidden by [02:17:34] Options directive Thu Jul 15 02:16:22.193813 2021 pid 43338 AH01276: Cannot serve directory /usr/share/wordpress/: No matching DirectoryIndex (index.php) found, and server-generated directory index forbidden by Options directive [02:31:11] in apache2.conf, does the tag include "AllowOverride All"? [02:34:02] No [02:34:19] AllowOverride None Require all granted [02:36:32] Thu Jul 15 02:32:46.430628 2021 pid 43339 PHP Warning: require(./wp-blog-header.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/share/wordpress/index.php on line 17 Thu Jul 15 02:32:46.433018 2021 pid 43339 PHP Fatal error: require(): Failed opening required './wp-blog-header.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php') in /usr/share/wordpress/index.php on line 17 Thu Jul 15 02:35:26.695390 [02:36:33] 2021 pid 43403 PHP Warning: require(./wp-blog-header.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/share/wordpress/index.php on line 17 Thu Jul 15 02:35:26.695651 2021 pid 43403 PHP Fatal error: require(): Failed opening required './wp-blog-header.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php') in /usr/share/wordpress/index.php on line 17 Is my error now once I put an index.php with default contents [02:37:06] change AllowOverride from None to All [02:37:11] and restart apache2 [02:37:16] remove index.php [02:37:21] if you created it [02:40:01] Same error [02:40:12] 403 Forbidden? [02:40:43] Yes [02:41:12] share your error log [02:41:15] 99.132:31048] AH01276: Cannot serve directory /usr/share/wordpress/: No matching DirectoryIndex (index.php) found, and server-generated directory index forbidden by Options directive [02:41:36] did you set AllowOverride to All and restart apache2? [02:41:42] Yes [02:41:57] does .htaccess exist on your server? [02:42:01] I don't think sp [02:42:38] # BEGIN WordPress RewriteEngine On RewriteRule .* - [E=HTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%{HTTP:Authorization}] RewriteBase / RewriteRule ^index.php$ - [L] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule . /index.php [L] # END WordPress [02:42:49] Where do I put it? [02:42:53] copy and paste this to your root directory of the web server [02:42:57] and name it .htaccess [02:43:32] Same error [02:44:34] hmm [02:44:45] Thu Jul 15 02:44:16.826243 2021 pid 43794 AH01276: Cannot serve directory /usr/share/wordpress/: No matching DirectoryIndex (index.php) found, and server-generated directory index forbidden by Options directive Thu Jul 15 02:44:21.998360 2021 pid 43790 AH01276: Cannot serve directory /usr/share/wordpress/: No matching DirectoryIndex (index.php) found, and server-generated directory index forbidden by [02:44:46] Options directive Thu Jul 15 02:44:28.810300 2021 pid 43789 AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /usr/share/wordpress/.htaccess [02:44:52] go to your wordpress directory and do chown -R www-data . [02:45:43] Thu Jul 15 02:44:28.810300 2021 pid 43789 AH01630: client denied by server configuration: /usr/share/wordpress/.htaccess [02:46:03] 99.132:41578] AH01276: Cannot serve directory /usr/share/wordpress/: No matching DirectoryIndex (index.php) found, and server-generated directory index forbidden by Options directive [02:52:39] @Agent [03:47:15] recreate index.php [03:48:41] How? [03:48:53] What should it have in it and where? [03:49:45] What should it have in it ? [03:50:33] Oh, it exists with: GNU nano 4.8 index.php /** Loads the WordPress Environment and Template */ require('./wp-blog-header.php'); ?> in it [03:59:29] oh, it already exists? [04:00:36] Yes, I kinda forgot about it [04:06:36] idk why apache is goofy and doesn't recognize index.php [04:06:41] thats the central issue rn [04:08:08] This needs fixing for the site to work [04:08:30] maybe... it is an apche config [04:08:43] its definitely\ an apache thing [04:08:56] how are you restarting apache? [04:09:19] sudo service apache2 restart and that other way [04:09:33] hmm [04:09:41] well that isnt the issue then [04:09:45] What files do you need? [04:10:06] could I see your apache2.conf? [04:11:01] # access here, or in any related virtual host. Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Require all denied AllowOverride All Require all granted Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Require all granted # [04:11:15] Can't copy paste the whole thing without doing it in chunks [04:11:56] Only bit that is probly changed from default [04:13:06] yeah no, that's all i wanted to see lol [04:13:07] hmm [04:13:28] Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride All Require all granted Is the lastest change [04:13:54] oh [04:13:55] hmm [04:14:06] @TheBurningPrincess [Taerel] is mod_rewrite enabled? [04:14:24] I think so [04:14:40] run sudo a2enmod rewrite to check [04:14:57] TBP@aesir:/usr/share/wordpress/wp-content$ sudo a2enmod rewrite Module rewrite already enabled TBP@aesir:/usr/share/wordpress/wp-content$ [04:15:11] alright, thats not the issue either then [04:15:41] Bloody game of wack-a-mole [04:16:16] in the tag, add > Options Indexes > DirectoryIndex index.php [04:16:20] and restart apache [04:17:36] Same [04:17:53] Thu Jul 15 04:17:33.452015 2021 pid 44286 AH01276: Cannot serve directory /usr/share/wordpress/: No matching DirectoryIndex (index.php) found, and server-generated directory index forbidden by Options directive [04:18:17] ohhh [04:19:02] in the tag, add a / after share so that it reads [04:19:11] @TheBurningPrincess [Taerel] [04:20:01] Thu Jul 15 04:19:53.331852 2021 pid 44325 AH01276: Cannot serve directory /usr/share/wordpress/: No matching DirectoryIndex (index.php) found, and server-generated directory index forbidden by Options directive [04:20:14] did you restart apache? [04:20:39] Ywes [04:21:26] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [04:21:27] o [04:21:28] hmm [04:21:53] # BEGIN WordPress RewriteEngine On RewriteRule .* - [E=HTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%{HTTP:Authorization}] RewriteBase /blog/ RewriteRule ^index.php$ - [L] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule . /blog/index.php [L] # END WordPress [04:22:01] paste this into .htaccess [04:22:15] maybe the issue is because wordpress isnt in the root [04:22:40] Still there [04:23:04] https://taerel.com/blog/ [04:23:05] [url] 403 Forbidden | taerel.com [04:23:48] move .htaccess to .htbak [04:23:53] and lets see what happens [04:25:15] Nothinmg [04:26:52] i'm at a loss tbh [04:26:58] i think it might be permissions [04:27:17] Hm, what can I try? Otherwise, I will have to forget rounded conrers [04:27:44] a whole reinstallation of WordPress maybe [04:28:45] Eh... I might of forgot to install wordpress [04:29:02] White screen now [04:30:17] it's blank [04:30:21] it returns no code [04:30:26] i'm at a loss [04:31:07] I insatlled wordpress forgot to [04:34:47] Goling to try a clean install [04:42:53] @Agent Back to a clean but not connecting to db insrall [04:55:27] Screw it, sticking with hosted WP [05:42:27] @raidarr I made my website ugly: https://taerel.wordpress.com/taerel-blog/ [05:42:28] [url] Taerel Blog – Taerel worldbuilding project | taerel.wordpress.com [05:55:10] I'd add some padding in content space otherwise seems okay [05:57:35] I can't... using free wordpess, was it uglyer now or before? [06:12:39] @Legroom Does the theme I changed it to look better? [06:13:50] sorry, I don't know how your site looked before your previous [06:14:43] you just removed background now and changed colors of text blocks? [06:14:49] Changed skin [06:14:55] Went back to the skin it had before [06:16:52] well, for me there is barely any difference, still very tight text layout I don't have experience w/ wordpress so don't count me on styling here, I'm just giving a little of feedback [06:38:08] Trying to kinda add my background image in the theme as to make it tie together [08:51:18] They rolled out profiles to eveyone - at last! [08:51:34] Profiles? [08:52:54] Discord [08:57:00] My hopes is to get a mobile responing index and main page layouts for both wikis (only need one as I can copy paste for the other wiki) [08:58:58] wdym they rolled out profiles? [08:59:33] Now most if not all people can use profiles, not just early acess [09:05:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/865157010885443604/p9eZjMEpeV.png [09:11:26] yeah, I still don't get what you mean about profiles like "about" segment and banner? thought everyone got that w/ last update [09:12:51] Humm? Everyone can now add banners on Discord? [09:13:03] Where am I? Lol I think I'm lost [09:13:50] lol [09:14:08] i don't care tbh, haven't made anything past custom status [09:15:02] Oh sorry I was behind [10:07:28] Which pages should I open in mine Matomo analytics to configure Matomo analytics? [10:07:39] Like how to configure Matomo [10:08:05] I have made my finished wiki open to vewing and linked to my blog and unfinished wiki, would anyone like to look? [10:35:42] @Legroom @Captain Cape lets carry chat here in case it is offtopic [10:36:31] I don't really have anything to say anymore. [10:36:34] Ok [10:37:18] Maybe it should go back to closed beta [10:38:49] @raidarr @Legroom Anything I could make better about my wiki? [10:46:02] I think right now, I am thinking of a mobile fredly main page and index and bots to crawl my index.php [10:49:38] @Ugochimobi Any ideas./suggestions to make it better? [10:49:50] Wdym configure Matomo? [10:50:18] Do you have MobileFrontend extension enabled? [10:50:32] I use Cosmos only [10:51:00] Enable MobileFrontend extension [10:51:02] Pretty sure Cosmos is pretty good on smaller screens - I jsut need to get my templates CSS working well on mobile [10:51:11] And I don't think I need mobile fountend [10:53:23] I'm gonna have to be honest and say I need another link [10:53:32] @Ugochimobi Already works fine on mobile without MFE (Mobile Found end) [10:53:43] Also, mobile frontend is mildly cancerous, I wouldn't advise personally [10:53:45] @raidarr https://taerel.com/w/index.php/Taerel:Perdyn_Kin%27toni_Clan [10:53:46] [url] Taerel:Perdyn Kin'toni Clan - Taerel Wiki | taerel.com [10:53:59] @raidarr Why do you think that? [10:54:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/865184500460159047/unknown.png [10:54:20] needs work [10:54:50] I wanted to configure Matomo on my websites and I found Miraheze use it [10:54:52] Mobile frontend's biggest accomplishment is straight up hiding things, which I'd really rather not have happen, + in my experience little more satisfaction for mobile browsing [10:55:06] How would I fix that box's color and shape? [10:55:17] Target its CSS and handle appropriately. [10:55:23] I'd consider the headers as well. [10:55:37] I don't know how to target it [10:55:46] And this box, [10:55:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/865184863681380362/unknown.png [10:56:04] My way is to source inspector and change accordingly, which is probably not the best way [10:56:26] though if you just duplicate other code into its box code I'm sure it would be fine [10:57:13] May have to target both the heading and the list for the toc box [10:57:30] How to configure it through [10:57:51] Might want to address this bit, [10:57:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/865185383486849034/unknown.png [10:58:18] Ah, I got linked right off to the wordpress, bit of a different beast... [10:59:30] So, what is the element name for the toc box and the footer?> [10:59:46] *category box [11:01:01] Gonna be a bit before I go source hunting [11:03:45] cosmos is ok on mobile, but not on main pages, it will need much more thinking [11:04:10] I just need their "CSS names" for the toc box and category box edits [11:04:39] @Legroom Already asked Lake if he could help me with the main pages and my index [11:06:51] for toc it's usually just toc, but idk how cosmos has it (as id or as class) [11:08:11] Yep that worked, whgat about for the categories box? [11:11:24] Ah, found it, it is "catlinks" that was more easy then I thought [11:13:00] yup [11:16:02] @Legroom Do you think you can make my main poage mobile resptive? [11:19:06] no, I actually struggling w/ this myself, still thinking out the layout [11:19:17] I rather like boxes [11:19:46] May they be in sets of three with a header, pairs with a header or in groups of 4, 6 or 8 [11:19:54] the problem is to put boxes nicely on small screen [11:20:25] My guess is for mine to look good on a small screen box A would need to be above B on the screen when in a mobile [11:20:49] Well, left box probly would look better under right box [11:21:10] you can try and see the mobile look by lowering browser's window size [11:21:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/865191428804444160/Screenshot_from_2021-07-15_12-21-35.png [11:22:50] or that, depends on browser lol [11:23:07] so yeah, this is true [11:23:12] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/865191761747247134/Screenshot_2021-07-15-14-22-16-729_org.mozilla.firefox.jpg [11:23:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/865191803702870066/Screenshot_2021-07-15-14-22-25-658_org.mozilla.firefox.jpg [11:23:39] Needs redoing a lot [11:25:32] I think I do need Lake's magic with this: I thgink i just want to get my landing page mobile fixed and my wiki main pages mobile working, could you help with that? @Lake (moved here from DMs) [11:27:26] I don't need that Vector.css really that much, but the mobile stuff is more imoprnyt. What do you think:? [11:27:35] Lake is probably sleeping rn [11:27:54] Ok [12:04:00] @raidarr Do you think my7 wiki will look good if the main pages are fixed? [12:04:45] @GrahamSH Do you think you could help me by making a page be mobile respive for me/ [12:05:58] I think it already has a decent look on the wiki end, the main page is detail. What I'd probably do (and no, not in a position to fully realize this) is make boxes flex, ie, if you have them side by side, have them go up and down on mobile. [12:06:34] That is what I want to do [12:06:36] I'm sooo busy right now [12:06:37] Sorry [12:06:40] Bloody hell [12:11:31] @Ugochimobi can you help? [12:11:32] Oh yeah [12:11:47] @TheBurningPrincess [Taerel] did I missed anything? [12:12:05] @Ugochimobi Can you make my main page mobile respotive for me? [12:12:20] https://quyraness.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page - you can edit here in order to do that [12:12:20] [url] Quyraness | quyraness.miraheze.org [12:12:46] Sure [12:12:52] TY 🙂 [12:13:01] Do you know how to configure it? [12:13:10] Or maybe could guide me [12:13:19] Go ahead and edit the main page where I linked, if you mess up, I have a copy to gop back toi [12:13:38] Wait, is it on your wiki? [12:13:47] Is your wiki not a Miraheze wiki? [12:14:00] No [12:14:15] My websites or else why I will use off-topic channel [12:14:19] Lol, no problem. [12:15:31] I wanted to install Matomo on my websites but I don't know how to configure. Could u teach me how to configure Matomo for my website [12:17:12] I don't know If i know how to configure Matomo and I'm sure no Sysadmin is chanced to teach you that but is your website a wiki? [12:18:14] No [12:18:43] Ping me and DM me once you are done [12:18:47] I just wondering if I could get help to configure Matomo on mine server and connect it to my websites [12:19:39] Ehh, google? Matomo IRC? Matomo Discord server? Matomo forums? Website? [12:21:35] ?? [12:21:52] "How to set up Matomo" [12:21:54] I don’t think there are [12:22:20] They appear to have IRC] [12:23:01] https://matomo.org/get-involved/ - they have IRC, Forums and Matix [12:23:02] [url] Join The Matomo Community - #1 Open-Source Web Analytics Platform | matomo.org [12:23:22] You may also find us on IRC in the #matomo channel on libera.chat (webchat) , or join via matrix.org/element.io at #matomo:lw1.at [12:23:52] Their forums are here: https://forum.matomo.org/ [12:23:54] [url] Matomo forums | forum.matomo.org [12:25:37] @Small Pig reporter/PJ Masks [12:25:46] Okay thx [12:29:16] The IRC doesn’t even work. I asked forum yesterday but no respond [12:30:22] The Matomo on Miraheze is owned by Miraheze and it's only our System Administrators that can help you. [12:30:41] SO maybe you'd ask for help in the #miraheze-relay or #miraheze-sre-relay [12:34:27] i can, but to maintain you do need to understand more complex css parameters [12:34:43] which is a bit of a problem because you seem to not understand the basics of css [12:35:09] It seems like a little unwillingness is at play, which is not a good sign for the long term aesthetic. Eventually, self-help is going to have to happen. [12:38:55] Well since you guys owned it, maybe you guys know and can help me to configure mine? [12:40:14] Okay [12:40:31] What is your website? [12:40:42] I will say content strikes me as a more problematic topic; I think in general the lack of substantial overview + geographic references makes it hard to ground in the setting as a whole, at least based on the 'finished' wiki. [12:41:45] Many words within pages, yet I find it difficult to connect them to a broader setting. [12:43:05] https://apadotech.github.io [12:43:05] [url] apadotech.github.io | Apado is a multipurpose websites. Chat, Blog, Video-sharing, and more. | apadotech.github.io [12:47:20] @raidarr Rewrite is not a choice - I paid for most of the words.. maps would cost money , but there are place pages [12:48:33] What would interst me in having written though, could be a "landmass" page talking about places and where they are in a landmass] [12:49:05] I would prefer a page incase it needs to be grown on later [12:52:38] I did ping you raidarr by the way sorry for pinging and deleing., I am not intersted in maps, but maybe landmass pages with 100 words on each place in [12:54:11] Ugoch any progess on that main page? [12:54:18] That will be a flaw you'll have to concede if you do not intend to geographically ground the setting. Which, don't get me wrong, I think is the single largest issue with my own content. [12:54:46] I have vague reference points, but nothing in the way of proper mapping or scaling. [12:55:05] I wonder if you could do it text only via a page for each landmass with say 100 words on each place inside it [12:55:36] Yes... [12:55:39] TY [12:56:34] You could, but it wouldn't address the general reference issue much and still leave it as the weakest point. [12:56:38] Better than nothing though. [12:57:38] Would it be worth paying for the 60,000-120,000 words it would need? [12:57:51] You don't do geography in words as a general rule. [12:57:56] The point is to visualize. [12:58:03] For the desciptions [12:58:46] It wouldn't necessarily need upwards of a few hundred words, though the visual would still be a compliment. [12:59:10] I am not sure how you would desibe 300+ places and where they are in 500 words [13:00:24] The first step is a coherent scheme for organizing those ideas, which goes right back to having a map as that is certainly a field where one pic = or more than 1000 words. [13:01:16] Even as an internal vague reference only you have so you are able to point out the vague worldly location/landmass in question, which you can follow with an overview of how the geography there works in general along with noteworthy features without committing to a scale or specifics. [13:01:43] I don't want to have a ma[ [13:06:23] I think it is too late to make one mow given that many of the places are already written and it would cost me quite a bit to get a map with them all on [13:07:44] @Small Pig reporter/PJ Masks I'm not sure I can solve your issue, ☹️ [13:08:31] Well, I could genrate a basic one with a map genrator [13:08:51] Why? I explain not enough? [13:09:23] I found a free one that looks like I could change the point markers to fit [13:09:26] It's never too late to make a map, although adding more and more that somehow needs to be factored in can make it tricky. But again, not especially difficult if everything was written in a way to have no location commitment in the first place. [13:10:02] Some do some don't [13:10:07] Almost literally anything can be done without paying for it, but it is proportionate to the time and education you want to spend. To be fair, mapping properly takes quite a bit of both and is something I'd probably end up paying for to do right on my own end. [13:11:04] Wonder if anyhthing can be done with the "Near to" areas [13:11:34] All I can say is try to be decisive, as executing one system then changing minds naturally results in near twice the work for the same intention. [13:12:07] I mean, my ideal wwould be using "near to: (place) (disance and diretion) [13:12:30] More or less how my fant content operates now, though for long term depth I don't recommend it. [13:12:44] But if that goal is not in the near future it would be an acceptable method to just 'get it out of the way'. [13:13:14] Mapping could aways be done when the content is stable and not lily to change] [13:13:30] Or be added to pages wise or the like [13:13:44] The difficulty of convincing maps is multipled with the scale of content that needs to be slapped into it. [13:14:01] Near to is probly the best bet then? [13:14:10] For your case, probably. [13:14:24] How would you format such a thing@ [13:15:35] Frankly I'd still have a vague outline of how the world is laid out so you actually know what 'near to' means if only for yourself, and to lend some convincingness in telling other people. Even if it's literally continental blobs and a microsoft paint abstract 'this is here, that is there...' layout. Visualizing will always be easier than attempting to mental it out. [13:15:53] Little Q raidarr, how many words is your biggest fanstay world? [13:16:07] In doing that I almost reached a vaguely acceptable map, until I realized I was just ripping off Warcraft and other two-continent settings. [13:16:41] I can't really quantify my content in words. If I was to transcribe it in words I could probably muster thousands for more concepts than I could list in one sitting, so probably quite a lot. [13:17:00] Like 300k? 500k? 1 m,illion?> [13:17:10] It is the sum of many years combining my take on fantasy settings with childhood crap I managed to turn into an idea. I'm afraid I can't give an accurate approximate. [13:17:59] All I can say is two full continents, two dozen fully distinct cultures, ~6 eras of history and many many individual characters and events. But the caveat, holes are everywhere and I still don't have a proper name for it. [13:18:38] Most of the time I prefer to indulge in micro settings instead, tailored things that are easier to grasp in one sitting and also suit my needs for roleplay environments. [13:19:34] Certain fields are deeply fleshed out (ie, magic), yet others are completely problematic (exact geography and language). [13:23:38] @TheBurningPrincess [Taerel] Please give me Interface Administrator rights on your wiki! [13:24:35] Special:UserRights/Ugochimobi and then add the interface-admin rights [15:03:38] Try now @Ugochimobi [15:18:56] Hmm [15:21:18] Chicago Bulls by k6ka (AKA Czar Hey) https://www.flickr.com/photos/czar_hey/51305537388/, https://www.deviantart.com/k6ka/art/Chicago-Bulls-885423551, https://www.instagram.com/p/CRNI9-DA4HP/ Date Taken: Jun 7, 2021, 8:14:30 PM EST Camera: Nikon D700 Lens: AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G Shutter Speed: 1/30 sec (0.033 sec) Aperture: f/9 ISO Speed: 200 Focal Length: 50mm Flash: Nikon SB-700, fired, rear-curtain sync [15:21:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/865251686682198046/DSC_1061_2021-06-07_edit1-2021-06-08.jpg [15:21:19] [url] Chicago Bulls | He was born to be uncontrollable. Nikon D700… | Flickr | www.flickr.com [15:21:20] [url] Chicago Bulls by k6ka on DeviantArt | www.deviantart.com [15:21:20] [url] Login • Instagram | www.instagram.com [15:27:37] Also grant me the Confirmed rights, reCaptcha want to kill me [16:07:58] Try now. And do you think you can get the boxes to match the ones on the main page? [16:08:23] Hope so [16:09:03] Your main page looks really damm good [16:12:55] Still does not seem to mobile respotive though [16:13:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/865264843031052308/Screenshot_from_2021-07-15_17-13-22.png [16:13:39] I haven't Edited the Main Page at all [16:13:52] No, your main page [16:13:56] The WIP [16:14:16] I found something in Preference [16:14:20] Hm? [16:15:36] Go to your preference and Go to the Appearance Tab below the skins you'll find Skin preferences try enabling it for yourself [16:15:41] and check again [16:16:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/865265626347601941/Screenshot_from_2021-07-15_17-16-28.png [16:17:33] Yes, that's what I'll be working on [16:17:58] Will it be box A below box B for unlogged in users? [16:19:36] And I love the wikipedianess of it (just neeeds to be colored as per the main page of my wiki now and with curved edges on the We are Seeking volunteers... and other headers boxes as to be consistant with the rest of the wiki [16:20:20] Curved edges on the boxes and the header boxes [16:20:51] What do you think @Ugochimobi ? [16:24:34] I hate the Cosmos skin with passion though [16:27:04] I just want the mainpage boxes to be that greyt the main page boxes are right now and have curved edges, same with the heasders inside the boxes 9(probly be best if they are a lighter grey) [16:27:40] Nothing can be curved there [16:27:52] They're not bad the way they are [16:28:42] Well, can they at lest be the greys used on the rest of the wiki as to fit in? [16:29:27] Yeah [16:31:04] Pretty sure rounded corners are just like a border-raduis or simlar [16:34:13] @Ugochimobi I just added border-radius:10px; to my boxes to round them [16:51:30] @Ugochimobi https://quyraness.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ugochimobi/Main_Page&oldid=5329 think you can make the left display so it is under the right on the page, I like this verson [16:51:31] [url] User:Ugochimobi/Main Page - Quyraness | quyraness.miraheze.org [16:53:09] What I mean by make the left display so it is under the right on the page, I mean when t [16:53:15] It is not gonna be mobile responsive in the Cosmos skin But it works in the Vector skin very well, [16:53:38] Well, vector is not really something I can go back to [16:53:45] So I think the current version is okay since you're on cosmos [16:53:59] what about the colors and rounded corners [16:54:05] That's why we'll leave it at the current version [16:54:18] This version is okay on cosmos skin [16:54:21] Ok [16:54:32] I'll change that later [16:54:36] Ok [16:55:06] Would be cool if you could display a diffant main page depending on skin [16:55:39] And yes, that is far better, I agree [16:56:28] I believe this current version will be compatible with all skins probably [16:57:29] nods [16:58:07] And yes that is true [17:15:06] @Ugochimobi When will you do the styling to look like the cuannt main page? [17:16:26] Calm down please, I am also attending to other users, lol. [17:16:50] Ok, I can put it as my main pages once the css is done [17:18:08] Yeah [17:18:13] Not now though [18:28:10] Updaing to latest LTS as to avoid EOL [19:22:05] @Ugochimobi Any luck with the css and styling for my main page?