[00:35:56] lol l'Agent [00:36:01] such nick [01:27:49] Guide for how to create new Evelution themes from scratch: https://awikia.github.io/SkinEvelution#creating-new-themes Theme template has all customizable values and each line of a customizable value has after the greek question mark a comment that tells you what value it can accept [01:27:50] [url] SkinEvelution | A MediaWiki Skin based on the discontinued MpistoSkin2 from Q.Qore | awikia.github.io [01:28:17] This will give you the chance to learn the basic CPE Language theming variables [01:31:49] See also on MDN: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/color_value https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/image https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/string https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/filter-function values accept either true of false values accept a time in ms or seconds, from 0 to 1000ms (1s) [01:31:49] [url] - CSS: Cascading Style Sheets | MDN | developer.mozilla.org [01:31:49] [url] - CSS: Cascading Style Sheets | MDN | developer.mozilla.org [01:31:50] [url] - CSS: Cascading Style Sheets | MDN | developer.mozilla.org [01:31:51] [url] - CSS: Cascading Style Sheets | MDN | developer.mozilla.org [04:12:19] Nice. Evelution is doing great. Theme designer is a feature not every skin has. 👍 HM100#2734 [10:01:38] Morning people. [11:01:47] Morning [11:01:51] Or afternoon e [11:01:54] Even [12:10:41] After morning, then [12:52:01] Yesterday afternoon was quite interesting in this server. [12:54:24] Not as fascinating as the time a community I was in had the entire staff and several users impersonating the owner including color and profile icon, but yes [12:59:48] o [13:05:55] What if we all impersonate Clyde 🤔 [13:06:33] this is a discord server, not a horror game simulator sir [13:07:23] I think a Discord horror game is a cool idea [13:07:32] Tbh, it is possible [13:50:23] but he's a ghost [13:50:43] so obscure pacman reference that i think nobody cares [14:09:41] oh hello, re: Discord Horror Game, Alternate Reality Games are kinda like that! 🙂 [14:10:31] I think a true spirited Discord horror would be forced to be subtler in nature and harder to pull off since Discord itself only offers so many tools for a given server to create atmosphere, particularly the horror type. [14:11:40] going to have to reply on a good story then 😉 [14:15:26] I would watch a youtube vid of an Discord Horror Game [14:17:19] Good story and clever use of features... I think it's possible, just would take a visionary to pull off. [14:17:42] The horror I think would most likely be an uneasy type, a 'something is terribly wrong here' mood [14:21:23] a fully integrated game, yeah. I played a supernatural horror ARG via discord, but it wasn't anything other than - channels set up a certain way (to mimic a business office) and - characters. but it was all done on discord, supplemented with r/nosleep stories. It's definitely doable, and the tools via bots and such are only getting better. I talked with someone else in the sphere about doing a murder mystery type of thing, [14:21:23] utilizing bots and such. not horror, but a good use of the platform. of course, this is my community so im a bit biased lol. Alternate Reality Games is what my Miraheze is set up for lmao. I think its a great idea and could definitely be a fun thing [14:22:19] ARG is a likely format, I'd think [14:23:43] absolutely. There's definitely some already, most discussion takes place on discord, sometimes there's character interaction. I know of a few ARG adjacent but skew roleplaying that do something similar. Utilizing a bot currency and moderation features not normally used. I don't past that for sure, roleplay isn't my thing lol [14:24:54] I'd think the horror aspect would be a more meta level roleplay, at least as I'd imagine from the conversation above. But the type that makes people believe it even a little (as in a successful ARG) [14:25:19] Certainly quite possible through a 'contained' roleplay format though :p which reminds me of my less than successful wiki to that end. [14:27:15] define meta level roleplay? Like.... not actual roleplay but character interaction without the.... roleplay formalities? [14:27:40] Essentially in an ARG, everyones a character anyway lol. It's not stated, but you play yourself and are considered a character. [14:31:03] Well, I'm using roleplay in the broader sense, in engineering events to happen or seem to happen that are 'roleplayed' in a way that is not quite reality. As in an ARG that you mention. [14:31:43] And yes, I'd consider roleplay with the formalities to be the 'contained roleplay' term with obvious boundaries and convention. [14:37:52] Ah yeah. While... technically it could be considered roleplay, that's not really what its called in the sphere lol. Roleplaying suggests the playing of a role, which... doesn't happen in an ARG. Technically? I guess? but the point of alternate reality games and unfiction in general is suspension of disbelief. everything is real, even though its not. So nobody is really roleplaying, they're just themselves, inserted into a [14:37:53] narrative. [14:39:23] I guess I just take a very open approach to the use of the term; even in its contained forms it is very diverse in execution. [14:44:22] yeah that's valid! Not telling you that you're wrong, just it takes a different connotation under the Unfiction umbrella. That said, I think the suspension of disbelief would be an important factor to the execution of a discord horror game. You can have all the right tools but in the end, it's still just a social platform 😛 [14:44:25] it sounds cool tho ! [14:48:55] Hi @Joseph [14:50:32] Hello Joseph Zppix All hail Josephs. [14:51:14] Any luck on finding a image of our holy savior @Joseph [14:52:03] oh certainly, plausibility is critical [15:03:09] @Joseph Raidarr coooouuulllldd you get us an image? of holy savior Josephs [15:05:45] Well, if you wouldn't mind your avatar being used I could do it >.> [15:07:46] @Joseph Raidarr it has to be properly licensed too tho [15:07:55] No copyvios on our religion s [15:07:57] Pls* [15:08:27] fair use [15:09:09] Ig [15:14:06] Well, power is still out at my place, so I'm over at my grandma's house for the time being. [15:14:33] How [15:15:08] National Grid is still working on getting the power back on. [15:15:45] The power was supposed to be back on at my place last night, but didn't. [15:18:27] I pray it comes as soon as possible [15:25:40] Oh, it will eventually. [16:04:43] @DarkMatterMan4500 doesn't the "Anything Goes Wiki" sound similar in scope to the Public Test Wiki? [16:04:50] In terms of experimenting [16:05:14] Anything does not go [16:05:20] Sounds like a cross between anarchy and test [16:05:31] In all not exactly an appealing implication [16:05:33] Wikis whatever their name still have to follow the content policy / CoC / ToU [16:06:15] I don't exactly see a similarity between that wiki or the Public Test Wiki in terms of wiki names. [16:06:20] The description is exactly in scope for the test wiki [16:06:26] I would have strongly declined it. [16:06:40] In that case, oops. [16:07:29] Not to mention offers little assurance that it would have much quality control considering it opens with "This is a wiki where anyone can do anything." and the second line is "Some people have nowhere to go where they can experiment on Miraheze."; on their own neither are acceptable and combined are little better. [16:07:38] The rest is self deprecation. [16:08:04] If they had the same stuff slapped from the Public Test Wiki, that would be one thing, but I'll keep an eye on that wiki if it does indeed copy stuff from the latter. [16:08:11] That should never have been accepted [16:08:17] dmehus: ^ [16:08:20] My mistake then. [16:08:20] The issue is a matter of scope being requested, content at this point is irrelevant. [16:08:21] @Void: ^ [16:09:12] I have a tendency to skim through wiki requests at times. But that wiki can at anytime get deleted for any reason that goes against Miraheze's policies. [16:09:33] I would be surprised if it is allowed to continue as it is tbh [16:09:45] The quality control needs to step up. [16:10:09] Yeah, I should probably give it a closer inspection for next time. [16:11:24] Any future similarities in terms of wiki requests will be declined immediately. [16:12:20] The wiki requester should be informed that they must follow all applicable global rules as their description makes it seem they'll allow any sort of testing or content [16:13:01] Then it's settled. The requester should get warned. [16:13:30] not warned exactly [16:13:40] At this point I would let the Stewards exercise discretion for the next move. [16:13:50] yes [16:13:52] They may wish to revert the decision, or make that notice themselves. [16:14:19] Right. I'm not in charge, so I'll let the Stewards' exercise that. [16:14:22] Wiki creators shouldnt be skimming anything [16:14:33] If you cant take the time to read a request do not handlr it [16:15:06] Stewards need to be involved [16:15:06] Some requests I do leave to someone else to look, as I may get confused with what they're requesting. [16:15:26] Zppix: I'm off now. Back about half 8 my time [16:15:30] Ok [16:15:35] That's 3 hours away [16:16:10] I don't accept all wiki requests, as some might violate Miraheze's CoC or Content Policies. [16:17:00] Specifically, user wikis are usually the ones I decline immediately. [16:17:34] CreateWikiAI gave 0.86 :( [16:17:40] It's not really good [16:17:52] Back when I got WC you had to be trusted by a sysadmin to be granted it, it wasnt up to the community this is because wc is very serious right… No one should be skimming requests PERIOD. [16:19:01] Well, I'll just carefully review it rather than skimming through it. [16:19:17] You shouldnt have skimming to begin with… [16:20:03] ^ [16:20:14] I think point has been made now [16:20:37] Quite right. [16:20:38] yeah [16:21:56] One reminder was good enough for me. I don't want to get a full repeat of what happened on Wikipedia. [16:22:46] Skimming through requests isn't the best. Reading the request thoroughly is best. [16:22:55] But anyway, let's just drop the subject as I don't want this to become a fight or some shit. [16:23:02] Alright [16:23:15] Bongo-Cat: hand the stick to Stewards please [16:25:27] Anyway, let's talk about something else. [16:26:58] .in 4hours vote on raid wiki c req [16:26:58] Spookreeeno: Okay, will remind at 2021-10-28 - 20:26:57UTC [16:27:46] What do you mean by vote on raid? [16:29:18] Look on meta [16:29:24] Me shortening things [16:29:36] Ah, okay. [16:32:22] Does c req mean created request? [16:33:35] mhm [16:34:09] Just wanted to make sure. That's all. [16:35:14] I confirmed :p [16:35:38] Lol yep. 🤣 [16:36:54] wiki c req is wiki creator request [16:37:37] Ah, I see now (hoping it wasn't about a now-dropped subject). [16:37:49] No [16:37:56] About the permissions request on meta [16:38:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#Raidarr_(Wiki_creator) - This one in particular [16:38:23] [url] Meta:Requests for permissions - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [16:38:54] Yeah, some twerp asking for powers [16:39:45] :OpposeMH: Strongest oppose - bad user [16:42:44] yayy, the piano roll on my wiki is working again [17:00:53] ah, send link [17:03:01] https://lakehub.ga/wiki/Game:Super_Mario_Kart/MIDI/Mario-circuit.mid the CSS is a bit bugged with overflow, and this is not the best midi I could have uploaded, but hey, it's working at least [17:03:03] [url] Game:Super Mario Kart/MIDI/Mario-circuit.mid - Lakehub | lakehub.ga [17:12:11] you can do that? 👀 [17:13:39] awesome [17:31:22] yes, but it's a bit quirky [18:41:18] I think Windows Aero theme is pretty [18:41:46] It's famously aesthetic. [18:42:04] Vista was onto something graphically, even in spite of its reputation. [18:43:00] I do miss Aero, too bad it's not available in any version past 7 [18:43:32] I kinda tried to copy it for my desktop (and my wiki was inspired by it) [18:43:34] I think there's reskins available for windows, and certainly for linux [18:44:42] I wish Aero stayed for Windows [18:44:43] Linux Aero lol [18:46:22] Not impractical, believe it or not [18:46:43] Though I know the actual builds are a mess and inconsistent if you want to use them on a 'modern' build of linux right out of the box [18:47:19] Ie, pretty sure it's a pain in the ass to get a default linux mint or ubuntu 20 to go aero with a few lines in console [19:17:55] @Lake Incthis is kind of a random long shot, but would you be able to ask this person to clarify their question in native portuguese (or if the question is clear to someone without a translator, see that it's answered)? I could machine translate (aka google), but I'm not too confident in it and figured I'd consult someone with professed native knowledge first. I vaguely assume he's asking for the wiki to be deleted [19:17:55] or to be 'factory reset' so to speak, but again am not sure at all. And I hope google is accurate on the language. I'm terrible with linguistics >.> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_noticeboard#Limpar_Wiki [19:17:57] [url] Community noticeboard - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:22:29] I don't speak Portuguese but through my understanding of Spanish, I think he's asking for the wiki to be reset because it's buggy [19:23:07] yes, it's essentially that [19:23:27] Would that be clear enough to forward to a sysadmin/steward as appropriate? [19:23:34] however, I don't really see any errors on the wiki [19:24:40] well, you can forward that and, if needed, I can reply when it's done [19:24:48] (or if something else happens) [19:25:40] Might actually be a phabricator thing as well, dunno how language friendly phab is exactly [19:25:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meetings [19:25:56] [url] Miraheze Meetings - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:26:02] Let's revive Miraheze Meetings [19:26:03] lol [19:26:30] they seem to have not been very successful judging from the fact that only 1 was held [19:26:50] I think they would succeed more now [19:26:51] I'd be down tbh [19:27:19] Get a representative sample from stewards, sysadmins and the board [19:27:43] hmm, what if they're revived then [19:27:46] I think the main reason it did not succeed it's because it mentions IRC specifically [19:27:51] Maybe discuss a few things to try out as a community between interested volunteers [19:28:00] and most people don't really use IRC [19:28:06] or know there's a relay here [19:28:10] Well then, perhaps we could relay an IRC channel to Discord [19:28:18] IRC only wouldn't be language to use in a new version for sure [19:28:19] and hold meetings to help rally community engagement [19:28:34] no no, we need to use msn messenger [19:28:47] AIM Messenger* [19:28:53] or club penguin chat [19:29:02] Postal mail instead tbh [19:29:03] Now that I think of it if on-wiki chat could be relayed to IRC/discord you could make it so anyone even people who don't care for IRC clients can have a shot [19:29:06] Best way to support the economy [19:29:25] Hmm, I don't think there's any good on-wiki chat software [19:29:39] My idea is at the mercy of MediaWiki Chat being extensible enough [19:29:40] MediaWikiChat exists but it's very lacking [19:29:45] well, would be nice if on this meeting people could show what they have been doing on their wikis [19:30:01] A show and tell type thing or? [19:30:11] I think we should throw rocks to communicate [19:30:21] Flaunt our permissions trees [19:30:37] last user standing becomes miraheze owner [19:30:46] like for whatever reason, i got a piano roll to work on my wiki [19:30:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/903365189641072660/unknown.png [19:30:54] totally useless, but cool [19:30:55] 😎 [19:30:57] You have to much freetime [19:31:12] tbh, that's the sort of thing I'd do for an episodic miraheze gazetteer [19:31:31] :SupportMH: Strongest support - Survival of the fittest. [19:31:38] I also got a music tracker to work on my wiki [19:31:38] where it highlights wikis, what they're doing and which need help in a given period of time [19:32:06] (music tracker is a different and more oldschool way to make music, using channels and things like that) [19:32:08] Joseph Religion should always be highlighted :ThinkingHardMH: [19:32:27] Joseph Religion is an indefinite sponsor of course, in h1 headings [19:32:36] Nah its in title [19:32:58] Community engagement after our next meeting: 📈 [19:33:37] Religion spread after next meeting: 📈 [19:34:20] We have decided that the official religion of Miraheze is Joseph [19:34:28] well naturally it is the title [19:34:40] Miraheze usage after next meeting: 📈 [19:34:59] I just spent almost a whole minute looking for that emoji [19:34:59] Josepheze usage: 📈 [19:35:05] Yes [19:35:20] Saint Miraheze is a saint in the Joseph Religion. [19:35:25] hmm but yeah, perhaps we can revive Miraheze Josepheze Meetings [19:35:36]