[00:00:38] Ubuntu is very good, I should dual boot it [00:01:14] Is so slow when I'm running it in virtual machine, in mac [00:05:34] if Tango icon set was a person, we will be married [00:11:08] I just got Pinta for Mac... wheres the settings [00:14:06] menus somewhere I guess, I dunno specifically [00:44:18] [1/2] I made my first tango icon, did I nailed it? [00:44:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235028992084410398/Captura_de_Pantalla_2024-04-30_a_las_6.43.56_p.m..png?ex=6632e1e1&is=66319061&hm=d787b5a31c2ee7f7572cc757de700d37b3a5fd66e2822586b055988d424e8de5& [00:48:43] Much better than photoshop [00:49:37] The whole photoshop CS6 experience in a 10MB package [01:29:47] Commons has the sexiest padlocks among WMF projects, change my mind. [[Commons:Protection_policy]] [01:29:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Commons:Protection_policy [01:29:48] [01:30:01] THIS commons - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Protection_policy [01:44:13] uncyclopedia has literally the sexiest padlocks in a gay perspective lol [01:48:00] there is another ironic wiki that has rocks with shackes. Goldrock, bluerock, silverrock, etc [01:58:35] As nice as GIMP is, for the purpose of drawing, I don't think Photoshop can be beat [01:59:05] Could just be that I've gotten used to it thoug [02:11:34] I need to edit a image every now and then, and for that PaintDotNet works most of the time (GIMP on Linux) and anything that requires drawing is usually done by one of my friends or I pay someone to do it [02:22:27] I like drawing as a hobby [02:22:31] I hope to get better at it some day [02:26:13] I press buttons, magic happens, people complain. Cycle repeats until people do not complain. [03:18:24] What would y'all think about reassigning all GDPR-deleted account contributions to an account called like "Deleted User" or something to make it harder to identify who the GDPR deleted user is and what contributions they made based on their contributions? [03:19:32] RemovePII should hide the account so it disappears complete and for all visible purposes would be deleted. [03:20:53] I know, but when RemovePII is run, all the account's contributions are still tied to a randomly generated identifier [03:21:00] So it's not really anonymized, just pseudonmiyzed [03:21:03] I know but that should be changed [03:21:08] Yea [03:22:43] I tested a change on a GDPR account the other day so now a it shows all contributions as "username removed" and disappeares from CentralAuth completely [03:23:54] I just haven't pushed it yet [03:27:46] Server-side, would it be possible for all GDPR-deleted accounts be merged into a "Deleted User" account or something similar to that? [03:28:21] That could have to many consequences and unnecessary [03:29:51] No that was pushed [03:30:06] Alr [03:30:12] For some reason though, Agent was the only recipient [03:30:28] But yeah now it's impossible to tell CentralAuth/contributions which is annoying tbh [03:31:26] I don't think there's any downside to this [03:31:34] At least not really [03:31:35] The OG method for account deletions lets you tie sigs to an account, the easiest way is to just have a account which all the edits in the DB get re-reged to [03:31:36] It helps with the privacy [03:31:55] Not necessarily but it's harder to tell if previous user groups need to be removed, outstanding stuff like that [03:32:01] Which is really annoying [03:32:02] Ah I see [03:32:25] Well it's not a big issue if a GDPR-deleted account has user groups, should be removed eventually but it doesn't disrupt anything [03:34:05] right but it's still a frustration [03:34:09] The lazy BS way is to nuke the account from DB and have edits reassigned to an account that is deactivated. [03:34:12] yea true [03:36:20] just got photoshop!!!! ||PIRATED|| [03:39:12] Where do you pirate it at? [03:39:40] mac [03:52:32] [1/2] For some reason people will click bluetext even if they do not know what it does [03:52:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235076363963203584/6483181fce99c135.png?ex=66330dff&is=6631bc7f&hm=a20990e46a12d17d16023ee723e8962aff38429723c65a9613822e6af168a7aa& [03:57:22] No I did not push it I just tested it on some individual accounts. [03:57:59] This was the point. Pe this should not be possible to associate with any account. [03:59:11] It was also done on my old GDPR'd account [04:06:56] ? [04:07:00] I mean the piracy website [04:08:08] [1/2] got it from reddit [04:08:09] [2/2] https://www.reddit.com/r/MacCrack/comments/14kjh01/adobe_cc_2022_all_products_patch_macos_free/ [04:10:06] Literally my whole CS class [04:10:28] Pink Text [04:10:44] ah [04:11:59] Unfortunately I'm on Linux [04:12:06] so do I lol [04:12:30] I'm fine with Windows Photoshop because I can use Wine [04:12:53] It has been a long time since I've used Photoshop lol [04:13:10] probably 6 years at least [04:13:22] I like it because of how good it is for drawing [04:13:54] However I quit using Windows a long time ago so I can't use it normally and I forgot where I downloaded it from when I got it [04:14:36] Hey I hardly use my PC anymore period lol. I do almost everything from my phone now [04:14:57] Interesting lol [04:16:45] I use VSCodium [04:16:47] I like it a lot [04:16:52] and i use [adobe is dumb's](https://github.com/ignaciocastro/adobe-is-dumb/blob/main/README.md) host file [04:17:49] Yeah... it is pretty easy to use ssh, etc... from my phone when I get used to it lol. I do have some photo editing stuff on my phone I'll use sometimes also... but my phone storage desperately needs cleared. [04:19:51] I personally wouldn't like to do that because I just don't type very fast on my phone [04:20:04] lol I do only because I am used to it [04:20:08] Lol makes sense yea [04:20:13] I'm not a slow typer on phone but I type faster on pc [04:20:17] I think I can get to around 100 wpm on pc iirc [04:20:30] I'll go look up a test for typing speed brb [04:20:30] Kinda the opposite for me lol [04:21:55] [1/2] Intee [04:21:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235083757841809418/image.png?ex=663314e2&is=6631c362&hm=5d13c55eee950c07d4949c8da52c04594371c5b6fe5e6bef1c0d7e0ea0fca1b3& [04:21:58] why quit windows [04:22:06] Privacy and security [04:22:09] + customization [04:22:39] it feels weird to not use Mac or Windows every day to me [04:22:55] I like Ubuntu [04:22:59] but I tried ubuntu and is very good [04:23:00] I've been using it for months now [04:23:16] Although I do like Windows for the UI it kept breaking and I was tired of having to remove all the spyware manually [04:23:38] Windows 7 is the best Windows release [04:24:28] but no more support since 2020 [04:24:55] 103 for me on mobile lol [04:25:03] Wow that's impressive lol [04:25:11] I type pretty fast on mobile but never in the hundreds [04:25:20] I didn't like the Win 7 UI unfortunately [04:25:27] Windows 11 isn't that bad if you cut out the bloatware [04:25:33] womp womp [04:26:54] I just tried to unplug my usb flash drive and the case came off it wtf [04:27:04] firefox now is underrated, the interface looks very good now [04:27:34] that happens to me... but with the usb-a part of my phone charger [04:28:18] I've also had it happen to my phone charger [04:28:22] [1/2] 106 that time lol [04:28:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235085382220251228/Screenshot_20240430_222800_Kiwi_Browser.png?ex=66331665&is=6631c4e5&hm=be94d82c23573930edde7970176daa7daa0a24091b62d1760de2f9881153097c& [04:28:27] cool lol [04:28:58] I agree and do use Firefox but https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html [04:29:21] h [04:30:14] I'm not the type of guy that gets overwhelmed by nerdy information, but bro [04:31:09] but I don't care because firefox is still good [04:31:10] I didn't understand some of it but I understood most of it [04:31:36] gets the job done [04:32:07] Depends on your threat mode [04:32:11] *model [04:32:17] Yeah rip my usb drive [04:32:22] This is definitely not going to be fixed [04:32:59] [1/2] google chrome is too basic [04:32:59] [2/2] I used in the past brave but now got boring [04:33:38] That isn't related to threat model [04:34:10] and why threat model? [04:34:50] Threat model refers to what you want to secure and who you want to secure it from. Firefox has security weaknessses that can be either unimportant or a very big issue depending on your threat model [04:35:20] I personally don't think I'll be subject to any targeted zero-day attacks but Firefox lacks a lot of exploit protection [04:35:41] nah, I'm good [04:35:46] So if I was a journalist, fugitive, etc., I wouldn't be using Firefox [04:36:26] I'm a normal user but sometimes a very very basic dev lol [04:36:37] I'm kinda a dev [04:36:44] I like coding and all but I'm not any kind of expert lol [04:36:57] For everything I know there's soo much more that I don't get [04:39:59] the only programming languages I'm good at it is HTML and CSS lol [04:42:30] Those are not programming languages [04:43:39] so what are those? [04:47:33] [1/2] i have the three [04:47:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235090209964822548/Captura_de_Pantalla_2024-04-30_a_las_10.47.00_p.m..png?ex=66331ae4&is=6631c964&hm=a21c372d33f35a1de6c46258e2aa3fc4023c48df0781665f4dd79427c4bfcfbc& [05:00:28] I've been on Twitter arguing with people today because I was bored [05:00:32] This is such a stupid thing to do though [05:01:03] Sometimes I just troll them like with the people complaining about the "rioters at CUNY" I've just started spamming 😭 💢 and only weebs will know what I'm saying [05:01:22] bro is risking getting cancelled [05:01:43] Yeah I know [05:02:35] I know someone who made an elaborate sock farm on Twitter where they used a few account to act like groups of absolute degenerates and then used some other accounts to go "rival" the original socks and trying to get other people riled up at the first socks and then using other accounts to get people on the side of the first socks etc [05:02:55] And in the end once people were shitflinging on their Twitter profiles they posted an advertisement for their Discord server lmaoo [05:03:31] mastodon is more chill, but is very boring, but I still use it [05:04:46] The problem with Mastodon is that it's full of normal, civilized, logical, and respectful people [05:05:41] [1/2] I replied to this guy once to make a cunny joke and now he's in my Twitter feed ffs [05:05:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235094774269083708/image.png?ex=66331f25&is=6631cda5&hm=394f5f8c25d54de4dd24ecb6d868614796cc439d38cc8a003e7047d2b88e2768& [05:07:08] ah yes twitter people and their obsession to bring politics into literally anything they can think of [05:07:09] [1/3] i just got said "heres more NSFW fucker" because I complained about a NSFW account in Mastodon [05:07:09] [2/3] I think that NSFW is for Twitter but not for Mastodon [05:07:09] [3/3] Tbh it was a little stupid [05:07:25] real [05:07:32] It's so confusing why everything is political [05:07:50] They think tornados are being created by politicans lmaoo?? [05:08:36] Politics is just who elderly man can yap and lie the best lol [05:08:50] [1/2] this just looks like a stock photo [05:08:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235095567986589696/image.png?ex=66331fe2&is=6631ce62&hm=3f5a5744c1faa4fc55f49f95510e42ef190f7c579a3eaf769bf8953c58515cc9& [05:08:53] real [05:09:56] The US is another Biden or Trump election now [05:10:29] and i don't care a lot because I don't live in the US [05:10:44] yea true [05:11:10] [1/2] 💀 [05:11:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235096155470303262/image.png?ex=6633206e&is=6631ceee&hm=f417579af6c0772176bd7505eb6ec4ad8712ca28d97617f4cc6bd77374698b71& [05:11:23] Oh it's from an actual news source [05:11:27] but the file name [05:11:30] Kinda surprised because the photography angle is just too good [05:11:31] OJ [05:11:31] OH [05:11:32] LMAOO [05:11:33] IT IS [05:11:53] getty sounds silly af [05:12:37] It's a stock image service [05:12:58] ik [05:37:21] [1/2] technobabble from elon [05:37:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235102743652335756/savingcpucycles-v0-zmunw6661qxc1.png?ex=66332691&is=6631d511&hm=2762eb143bac1e5645c1ee85fe8edd442ef7eafa47018ac81e78c26d94f13063& [05:42:16] [1/2] it is unfortunate that there are people who still fall for this shit [05:42:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235103978770006136/image.png?ex=663327b7&is=6631d637&hm=3ccd347cafd3480dabc7b90b5f5799e63abe9d3edd99397296517afee52799b0& [05:42:50] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1785357913634042012 [06:24:25] [1/2] YOOO [06:24:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235114586680852480/image.png?ex=66333198&is=6631e018&hm=d40373d2fd3ebeb2eb1b7520b5d54342c7dbae0f988b961235c07c91fe202e54& [06:25:52] woohoo [06:31:11] What did you do in the first place to get banned on GH? (unless you don't want to say which is totally okay) [06:31:36] I had some not-very-nice things about the person who inserted a backdoor into xz-utils which to be honest was kind of uncalled for [06:31:56] ah [06:46:41] [1/2] It appears that RemovePII doesn't properly change usernames in global block logs [06:46:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235120192485589002/image.png?ex=663336d1&is=6631e551&hm=392fb812749c2222f48855a7a375261b0ffbf3ef2b26b9f2946e49a8ec859183& [06:46:50] That's on https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/212.112.19.0/24 btw [06:48:36] Please delete your message and replace it with a security task on phab [06:48:40] alr [06:51:43] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12093 posted [07:53:19] You're too impulsive. You need to learn to restrain yourself. Otherwise you risk alienating yourself from everywhere. [08:36:20] firefox was always good [08:36:26] my default browser [08:38:28] [1/2] even editing wikis? [08:38:29] [2/2] I never edit wikis on mobile cuz it is inherently difficult for me to do so [08:38:46] maybe unless if I do like a tiny edit, but really, it's a device issue for me [08:39:08] no matter how great the editing experience is, I can't help myself but to make edits only on pc [08:40:10] timeless and cosmos makes editing from mobile so much better tbh [08:40:58] I even happen to make templates, but ofc when formatting/styling is important this must be desktop [08:42:06] I just doesn't happen to be by laptop as often as I'd like to [09:11:02] in the end, I'd say anybody can feel free to edit whatever they want on a wiki, whatever device they use and whatever makes them comfortable [09:11:12] just make good edits and that's good to me [09:11:13] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [11:36:22] if it's just the ui then kde has been making steady strides and I may go over to it entirely when kde6 has matured; otherwise linux mint has been my balanced pick of late [11:38:33] mastadon is for anyone tbh, that's really the point; however the nice thing in masta is that you can/should be able to have instances gated one way or the other, nsfw does not need to mix with 'regular' unless that's the explicit point of an instance and I imagine on the main one there should be very little on a daily basis [11:38:57] in all I find the whole thing too vague to be useful, but then, I never cared about twitter in the first place [12:41:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235209403414610000/image.png?ex=663389e6&is=66323866&hm=a1977abf3142f9c5469a51b4f765e06d2533bab0ddadf63ca6b348d0a7fb66b4& [13:20:50] @rodejong I google JW meeting wiki and past the Wikipedia pages about JW the first page from your wiki is Help:Introduction to Wikipedia [13:20:51] Hmmmm [13:25:16] Someone's guily of importing from WMF [13:28:15] Speaking of hey @rodejong I was looking at your template that uses external data [13:28:29] And I noticed smt [13:28:38] I can understand importing from meta wikis (MH and WMF) but importing from Wikipedia's project namespace usually leads to problems later on [13:28:42] In the documentation you have the Name parameter being passed in [13:29:09] In the template the name url parameter is trying to use {{{Congregation}}} I think [13:29:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bCongregation [13:30:14] The API may also be part of the issue as it’s returning a list with dictionaries [13:32:56] There’s a few funky things here I’ll need to look into with more time [14:20:58] What dictionairies? [14:33:27] Sorry, I’m used to calling them dicts cause that’s what they’re called in python [14:34:41] but what is "them" you call dicts? [14:34:45] Data? [14:34:56] I'm confused [14:40:32] The Curley brackets in python are used for dictionaries where one value is used a reference to access another `dict = {'foo': 'bar'}` ie accessing the foo key gives you the value of bar. Lists are square brackets and they just store data in order [14:40:36] I’ll show in a sec [14:41:30] I’m still figuring It out [14:41:55] My point is I think the issue may be partly with the API because of the format of the data but I need to do further testing [14:42:19] Sorry [14:43:05] I’m gonna try and fix it if I can [14:43:54] Also: https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:CongregationApi the docs are calling a different template then the page it’s on [14:44:22] The docs for the CongregationApi say SearchJwOrgApi [14:46:41] That's another template, the one that actually collects the data [14:46:53] I am away for an hour [14:47:05] You just do your thing 😄 [14:47:18] If you break it, you make it 😄 [14:47:33] I’ll use a sandbox lol [14:47:47] Besides you already broke it [14:48:31] Wait wdym collects the data [14:51:56] Ro I love ya you’re my best buddy in wiki world but wat the hail [14:52:19] Aight uh see in you in a bit I got reading to do [14:53:32] https://tenor.com/view/meme-well-be-right-back-flying-in-minecraft-meme-gif-20705289 [15:02:01] Speaking of, does JWMeeting wiki have a 1:1 ratio icon or just a wordmark [15:06:17] I’ve made progress to finding the issue but the templates still confuse me [15:06:37] Cong API has the docs for another template which it does not use [15:06:43] No school today yay [15:07:47] The core of the issue seems to be how the data is given. For some of the info sent back, the variables point to objects that store more data instead of a single value [15:08:07] Ie the weekend value stores a map that includes more data in it [15:08:23] If that makes sense [15:08:40] I got NSFW in the federated feed when I don't want it there [15:10:09] no flagging/filtering? seems like an oversight or something lacking if not [15:11:05] With flag [15:12:25] something's off for sure then [15:16:21] @rodejong, https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/may/01/red-bull-confirm-celebrated-car-designer-adrian-newey-to-leave-f1-team [15:16:40] Verstappen could follow, too. [15:18:04] [1/2] This is why almost nobody used Photoshop when it came out lol [15:18:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235248884192776212/splash-107.png?ex=6633aeab&is=66325d2b&hm=0522ad54e0ae5957e30d31f83881a4e761cdd8dad597819cd00f25166384db9a& [15:18:44] The logo has bad vibes [15:22:40] little github scrapper tool (not for wikis) I used doesn't work anymore, and all existing alternatives are on fucking python :moonch: [15:27:51] Python <3 [15:28:27] it was a simple, single exe for cmd [15:28:35] w/ a single command [15:28:43] that did its job [15:34:33] this looks like something I'd see in a pixelated game tbh [15:36:36] Could get exciting soon [15:36:41] An early silly season [15:40:13] Well, Hamilton kicked off the proceedings before the season even began. [15:45:35] That is true [15:47:02] Do any of you ever look at a new person in a community and say "wait, I think I seen this before somwhere" or is it just me? [15:48:35] @felenov yes [15:49:15] How so [15:49:45] Yeah, happens every now and then [15:50:00] Recently a banned quake player got caught on a new account. Keyboard noise was the culprit this time. "yea, I remember this keyboard sound, let's ban this triggerbot user" [15:52:11] Whenever I see an alias I do not recognize the first thing I do is try to build a fingerprint of it and compare to the people I know already, it's just become automatic at this point [16:01:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235259875777576990/image.png?ex=6633b8e8&is=66326768&hm=47649de6a115534b6df3ba277090f174fac6c856af1f72a761f37367c01b1212& [16:17:32] Yep lol I always use Cosmos cuz I made it but it makes editing on mobile much easier. I use Timeless on wikis that don't have Cosmos. [16:18:01] username checks out [16:27:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235266340768452749/image.png?ex=6633beed&is=66326d6d&hm=6c422372826263fc6af023f9c8a03bdf93fb2cbf3bf91bd5186656b960b3b246& [16:59:09] why, monobook is not bad but now looks very very old [17:01:32] Old can sometimes be more valuable than new!! [17:33:10] I like the simple utilitarian design - yes give me more buttins [17:34:16] There is a reason I do not like the new Vector skin since it's too reader focused. V2010 has those nice buttons to the side that encourage the reader to go and click them and possibly turn into an editor [17:51:53] @rodejong what is the SearchJwApi template supposed to be used for? The congregation one is obviously meant to make a table showing info about a location but I didn’t get to checking out searchapi [17:53:27] (Also I think Congregation api could be fixed easily ish with a Lua module [18:08:51] Thing is, that SearchJwApi is both used on Congregations as well as Kingdom Halls [18:09:22] By congregations, are you referring to the template? [18:12:46] Yes SearchJwApi is being called from `{{Congregation}}` and `{{Kingdom Hall}}` [18:12:46] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Congregation [18:13:30] See https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Steinkjer_Kingdom_Hall and https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Steinkjer_menighet [18:13:42] I am not referring to “Congregations”. I am referring to “CongregationsApi” [18:14:49] ?? [18:15:56] Sorry I am not following you [18:18:17] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:CongregationApi this [18:18:27] Which had the docs for the wrong template so ignore that [18:18:52] Oh that. 😄 [18:19:08] Yeah I haven't touched that for a long time. [18:19:31] I think I can fix it in Lua tbh [18:19:39] Okay [18:20:08] I’ll probably ask on the extensions talk page if it can be done via wikitext [18:20:43] Would you be fine with me making a new module page? [18:20:55] Yeah, go ahead [18:21:15] I have not much clue on Lua [18:21:22] What info is searchjwapi meant to fetch [18:21:56] What a coincidence neither do I [18:22:02] LOL [18:22:09] https://apps.jw.org/api/conventions/convention-congregation-list/NOR?name=Steinkjer [18:22:10] But hey it’s allegedly one of the easier languages [18:22:34] That api gives the data [18:23:18] So language location and time [18:23:31] [1/15] ```{{SearchApiJWorg [18:23:31] [2/15] |circuit= [18:23:31] [3/15] |section= [18:23:32] [4/15] |congGuid= [18:23:32] [5/15] |congNumber= [18:23:32] [6/15] |congName= [18:23:33] [7/15] |language= [18:23:33] [8/15] |address= [18:23:33] [9/15] |latitude= [18:23:34] [10/15] |longitude= [18:23:34] [11/15] |midweekMeetingTime= [18:23:35] [12/15] |weekendMeetingTime= [18:23:35] [13/15] |donationsEnabled = true [18:23:36] [14/15] }} [18:23:36] [15/15] ``` [18:23:39] It's these [18:23:46] I’m not sure why you have all those parameters [18:23:56] Most of those are the info that’s received [18:24:18] All you need is the name and three letter thing [18:24:27] Because if a congregation get's terminated, it would have to be done manually for historic reference [18:24:52] Three letter thing is the country [18:24:54] They remove it from the API? [18:25:04] yes. [18:25:22] e.g. when it's being merged with another one [18:25:39] No offense to you JW folks but come on guys that’s just cringe [18:25:48] ? [18:25:52] Why? [18:26:33] It always shows the current info [18:26:49] I mean why not just keep it and add a value showing it’s retried [18:27:08] ask them 😄 [18:28:23] Refer me to your webmaster and I might [18:28:30] LOL [18:28:37] I have no connection there 😄 [18:28:47] You're closer to him than I am 😄 [18:32:07] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:SearchApiJWorg [18:32:36] [1/2] silly drawing in Photoshop 3.0 in macOS 9 [18:32:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235297841015033988/Captura_de_Pantalla_2024-05-01_a_las_12.31.09_p.m..png?ex=6633dc44&is=66328ac4&hm=0f57a4c2baeaed1fc5f5e2376b1315903ea6a2d9c014a5d4b20af23e69a9ca9c& [18:33:04] Wrong timing to jump into a convo [18:33:13] [1/3] Hi I’m the acquaintance of a member of JW who is currently working on documenting your meeting congregations on a publicly editable wiki. We have been making use of your API to populate accurate data on our pages, and have noticed that the entries for retired meetings locations are not accessible in the API. Would it be possible to access the data for these via [18:33:13] [2/3] the API as to allow for automatic population of information for retired locations as well(possibly via a different end point or by keeping the entries with a termination value returned). Thank you [18:33:13] [3/3] Sincerely, random internet guy [18:33:26] huh? [18:34:10] Would be funny [18:34:59] Indeed. But if you can make it work like I have been doing with https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:SearchApiJWorg.. thawuld be grant [18:35:01] How well known if your wiki among JW people? [18:35:23] Not much yet. [18:35:32] Gotta advertise lol [18:35:38] Haven't really promoted it yet [18:35:49] Have showed it to my friends though [18:35:58] actually I could use PS 3.0 everyday [18:35:59] Just wanted to have Scandinavia done first [18:36:22] What did they say [18:36:30] They loved it [18:36:37] Awesome lol [18:36:46] They're just not wikisavage [18:36:53] for drawing [18:37:02] Hey maybe next time one of the JW missionaries show up at my door I’ll show it to them [18:37:03] Shhhhhh [18:37:41] Eh he’s not being too disruptive so it’s not that big an issue [18:37:58] I'm just teasing 😛 [18:38:05] Have any idea how you will? [18:38:08] teasing what [18:38:32] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Scandinavia [18:38:44] I mean advertise it lol [18:39:28] Send it to the HQ of Scandinavia 😛 [18:39:58] Be sure to use the extra fancy letter paper [18:40:04] Maybe a wax seal [18:40:15] Some cologne as well [18:40:22] Smart [18:40:30] Thought so 😄 [18:41:14] I’ll try and get it to work without then add it in [18:41:51] finally got a proper mira email [18:42:06] You can use Steinkjer to mess in 😉 [18:42:14] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Steinkjer_Kingdom_Hall [18:42:16] 👏 [18:42:21] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Steinkjer_menighet [18:42:28] https://apps.jw.org/api/conventions/convention-congregation-list/NOR?name=Steinkjer [18:42:52] What’s the difference of a hall and congregation.. [18:43:09] The congregation is the local organisation [18:43:21] The Kingdom Hall is the building where they gather [18:43:33] A KH can have several congregations [18:44:08] A Kingdom Hall is what other religions call a Church or temple [18:44:16] Ah [18:45:08] Mobile moment [18:45:56] I’ll probably keep the logic stuff in the module and have it call the normal template [18:46:08] When I get the time to [18:47:46] Are they any parameters to the templates that may be empty sometimes? [18:48:30] Also could maybe have the api one be only automatic and if it has to be manually just use the Congregation template directly [18:48:48] Less work for my lazy ass [18:53:52] No all parameters get used [18:54:31] [1/3] Not correct: [18:54:31] [2/3] |circuit=[[NO-05]] [18:54:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/NO-05 [18:54:32] [3/3] |section=/B [18:54:32] [18:54:58] These are manually done [18:58:19] Not in the api? [18:58:43] No, as that is called from somewhere else I don't know [19:00:37] https://apps.jw.org/ui/E/meeting-search.html [19:07:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235306544263073832/image.png?ex=6633e45f&is=663292df&hm=b5e85cbe2095d90c65619f12d8e64a16e0c6a50227081832f15b81263ce0b299& [19:12:40] [1/2] @rhinosf1 I think FAQ needs updating: `We are in the process of moving to dedicated servers located in the United States, and expect to be done by March 2024.` [19:12:40] [2/2] It's may [19:13:44] @felenov yes all traffic is served from our US equipment [19:13:48] And has been for a bit [19:14:16] FAQ is out of date. Caught it while updating RU xlations [19:14:36] Cool [19:15:03] Ill have a look later [19:16:26] Ping me if you updte anything on FAQ and I will re-xlate it [19:17:05] Hm I’ll do a quick look [19:17:19] Also do you know any other wiki people in jw lol [19:22:58] I used to know a few, but they are not active anymore. There was a JW portal, but there are only a few left who rather oppose us. I know a guy in Belgium but he is active on another private Dutch language Wikipedia garbage pickup. [19:23:26] private Dutch language Wikipedia garbage pickup [19:23:28] Okay [19:23:29] um [19:23:36] thats a combination of words [19:24:24] They pick up the throw-aways from Wikipedia that are not notable qua wikipedia standards but still are interesting enough. [19:24:52] They have a medium quality standard, if that makes sense [19:55:05] I just updated that bit of the FAQ [19:58:19] [1/2] @rodejong ... [19:58:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235319410739380334/image.png?ex=6633f05a&is=66329eda&hm=3e285106ce2391558bee9c56e0c665634a7f65a3a0e87168e09214dade57d948& [19:59:12] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235319636883406992/image.png?ex=6633f090&is=66329f10&hm=738d05e24d643b39999422bd84133250ca0bf37016372085eb981708e060b70d& [20:02:34] good reason [20:02:37] peace at last [20:02:48] do you [20:02:51] have any idea [20:03:06] how infuriatingly annoying [20:03:09] this thing was [20:03:22] i've edited testwiki and yes [20:03:30] There really needs to be a mass patrol script; sometimes there's just too many unpatrolled edits to manually patrol [20:03:36] it appears every time an edit is saved [20:03:47] there is i think idk if it works [20:03:57] if so i think its meant for the no javascript rc [20:10:45] @MacFan4000 - xlation updated [20:11:31] if patrols are automatically marked off by a script, what good is patrolling [20:32:10] [1/2] @rodejong this is as far as I got without lua [20:32:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1235327932977647746/image.png?ex=6633f84a&is=6632a6ca&hm=5b641a30ea43189e8b0514cfea2ccec04cc3e2bbdd6a7986237a83cfdbbe6fe7& [20:32:46] ill leave a message on the extension talk page to check if there's an undocumented way to do this without lua [20:38:06] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:External_Data#c-PixDeVl-20240501203700-Accessing_identically_named_subkeys [21:51:52] FAQ is a historical document specific to the MH/WT merger and isn't going to be updated continuously. [21:54:42] It should probably be marked as such considering that the merger is complete more or less [21:54:44] That is good for the translator guild. [21:55:12] if the merge is all finalized it sounds about time to archive, ye [21:58:17] @rodejong they responded, i think i can get it to work but OH BOY its gonna be messy so have fun cleaning iyt [21:59:45] LOL [21:59:55] I ||fucking|| hate that pop-up [22:00:14] What you gonna do when I come for you? [22:00:34] run and cower? [22:08:17] is ro that scary [22:08:40] if i get this to work ill lyk [22:09:49] I am actually quite harmles. I just can be quite convincing 😛 [22:23:09] I asked Yaron for an example so waiting on that [22:26:32] why you spoiler fucking 😭 [22:50:45] To not make the chat too dirty [22:51:14] Most people don't have an issue with profanity as an explicative. [22:51:44] If you want to it's your choice [22:52:30] i mean it's the internet [22:52:39] who cares about light swearing [22:54:19] It depends on the community of course. [22:54:29] chat will be equally dirty, it just makes people who haven't set spoilers to auto view have to press more buttons tbh [22:54:29] If it's use in a personal attack or offensive manner [22:54:32] then it's an issu [22:54:42] Auto view is a thing? [22:54:46] ye [22:54:49] Ye [22:54:51] first thing I'd turn on [22:55:34] second [22:55:45] turn :) to 🙂 is evil [22:55:52] true [22:56:31] I got warned here because I used too much profanity one time [22:56:52] that's just a matter of overall toning it down tbh [23:03:57] That and the gif-spamming, but we thank you for taking input in the spirit in which it was intended. 🙂 [23:13:05] Personally I hate swearing, So I don't mind the black bars. [23:13:21] of all the things I think about doing as a newly installed steward, the one I managed to actually get done is an essay about wiki networks [23:14:20] Where can that be read? [23:14:37] it will soon join my userspace [23:16:26] yeh and i have it turned on cause it's annoying to click spoilers all the time [23:17:11] oh? [23:18:47] [1/2] 'ere we are [23:18:47] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Raidarr/Wiki_networks [23:19:23] 'I can only imagine what it's like when your chain of command as a sysop is local bureaucrats, network bureaucrats, and then stewards.' [23:19:26] I don't want to [23:23:11] is nonci(whatever the italical uncyclopedia is) a network since its a family or wmf pardoys(that may get smashed by stewards) [23:25:05] Just read it! Interesting stuff!!! [23:26:46] I think Emircraft (or how he's called) is trying to establish a Network [23:27:03] dang [23:27:08] das crazy [23:27:27] Look at his talkpage [23:27:50] There's already a network [23:27:57] SnowballasmediA [23:28:05] Was not made by me [23:28:23] Was made by Tornitiu [23:29:57] it can go on the essay list then [23:41:27] It has some time [23:42:15] cool, but don't make harm to SnowballasmediA [23:42:57] but the majority of SnowballasmediA wikis are the other SnowballaspediA languages