[00:35:39] yes quite literally in some countries [03:04:57] [1/2] :( [03:04:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1299931818602266654/Screenshot_20241026_210403_Google_Play_Store.jpg?ex=671eff59&is=671dadd9&hm=86555c5ea7cbf7fb1bae28def84dd23b54ebea818a9a76a5a1c931fd509fabec& [03:10:46] sounds nice [14:00:51] decided to try to learn rust, and what better way to do that than rewrite a discord bot i made a while back [14:11:40] I’m trying to learn with mwbot-rs [14:26:06] test [14:30:40] Foo [14:31:20] bar [14:43:17] Eggs [16:30:17] let's be honest, languages come and go depending on what's hip and cool, ultimately it is useless to learn a language [16:30:35] what people should learn is amd64 and aarch64 assembly [16:30:49] thought you meant normal langs at first lol [16:30:58] they will always be there for you [16:31:56] I’m going to make you learn Haskell [16:32:29] Also hey guys Silicona is back Horray [16:33:28] Also Christ 29 requested wikis [16:33:42] no way [16:35:50] Yup [17:23:34] Why does https://miraheze.org say dozens [17:27:22] there are dozens of us. dozenssss! [17:29:41] Since when were we experts too [17:30:07] Oh that’s just marketing [17:40:56] languages are just like code editors, they are hyped up, but will never replace the king (vscode) [19:00:06] You shouldn't try and "learn a language" you should try and learn programming. Fundamentals like loops, etc etc. At the end of the day each language is just syntax you need to learn [19:00:20] Yes [19:00:23] (Unless its python thats just some bull shit) [19:00:41] But i do like rusts syntax [19:00:46] Although its very hard to read [19:04:01] Yea [19:04:39] I’m trying to figure out how to access the properties that should exist but don’t [19:04:56] Know the language isn’t hard to read? [19:05:09] Huh [19:05:14] Python! [19:05:23] Python is extremely hard to read [19:06:01] You think something like `var is not true` is easier to read than !var? [19:06:02] Crazy [19:06:27] Or whatever it is in python to indicate false [19:10:59] To a seasoned™️ developer like me about the same. For a new developer definitely [19:11:54] I mean ! is more ergonomic when you get used to it [19:13:28] I’m going to stop arguing [19:51:37] Uh, if I was to colocate a server with a group that offers installing in the price, do I need to put the rails on the server? [20:51:27] got my wiki backup strategy figured out, someone messaged me about it a while ago and I put it on the back burner; if they see this I can queue it up within the next few days [20:51:36] re: grabbing some at-risk wikis off fandom [20:51:44] amazing [20:57:35] if that person does see this they'll have to remind me because I can't actually find the message [21:00:19] oh nice [21:00:21] danke [21:00:32] Raidarr’s 24/7 Emergency Wiki Rescue Service [21:00:57] if it's not bloody huge I'm in the running since I unbuggered my python environment and got a competent script going [21:01:19] an epic service [21:01:33] any rescue is best served yesterday but now is the second best time [21:01:40] before fandom shrugs and kills it [21:01:44] yeah [21:02:02] I still can't believe I was in that place for the better part of 10 years [21:02:14] well a lot of people were/are and I got my start there too [21:02:19] Yeah [21:02:21] same here [21:02:26] it's definitely slipped over time [21:02:30] yep [21:04:08] cough @WikiBot [21:04:24] that's probably better than poking my janky butt to do it [21:04:25] same [21:04:40] wow we have so much in common [21:05:02] one archived wiki is for research/worldbuilding purposes and the other is a bit spicy and undoubtedly runs afoul of what fandom would like to host [21:05:20] can't think of much I'd personally want to archive otherwise though [22:52:53] Civic duty complete, now the waiting game begins... [22:55:16] really hoping the levy on the ballot passes, one of our middle schools is still awaiting a renovation or rebuild after it was originally built in 1974 and levies failed like, 5 times over the decades [22:55:58] Most people started at Fandom [22:56:01] Because believe it or not [22:56:39] Wikia was the place to be back in the day. [22:56:44] Fandom killed that [22:57:03] But i do wonder why their tune suddenly changed [22:57:32] investment firm parent? [22:57:46] i came from modern day fandom [22:58:06] i started with wikis at all after most of our GAs joined Miraheze [22:58:08] Yeah i think that's what did it [22:58:22] Like wikia in 2012-2015 was top form [22:58:37] Then they started getting rid of all the stuff that made it good like WikiAnswers etc. [22:58:54] WikiAnswers? [22:59:37] They were wikis but instead of the usual layout there was a search box and you could ask questions and people would answer them [22:59:54] So there were no articles per say but questions. I'll see if i can find a screenshot [23:00:45] Think like Yahoo answers but less... yahoo [23:01:57] https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/central/images/e/e1/WikiAnswers_Closed.png/revision/latest?cb=20190404225318 [23:02:04] This is the closest screenshot i can find [23:02:10] See the search bar at the top there [23:02:15] But that took up the entire content area