[00:12:50] the count is starting... [00:13:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303512447197642873/R2X8OIv.png?ex=672c0611&is=672ab491&hm=b82103ef4b208c127f3c17290227889971be9be4da0416ce11a5c324efc35a5d& [00:16:14] That's not a good sign [00:16:36] Well, the polls have been closed for 16 minutes there [00:16:40] And look at the right [00:16:51] These are the same as 2024 [00:16:57] I think think any of these are swings [00:18:37] yall are cooked [00:18:52] hold out hope... [00:22:15] But if things continue at this rate, Trump will have 486 electoral votes and Kamala 52! [00:25:25] Political we both stand on different sides [00:25:54] I think Tali was making whats called a joke [00:26:29] (For those unfamiliar with US politics, none of the current called ones are surprising at all, night's just getting started) [00:26:45] I don’t think so but we both do have a different political standing [00:26:58] Fair [00:27:06] I'd advise against making assumptions about others' beliefs [00:27:11] Just as a general note [00:27:17] Not making any [00:27:30] Holy jeez reaction mistake [00:27:47] I must have typed a bit fast LAM [00:27:50] Laughing at myself [00:28:00] nah, i use the +:emoji: trick [00:28:13] which fails if anyone else send a message while i type [00:28:39] Anyway I seen some of tali political beliefs so I am not to new to them [00:28:53] I just usually don’t want a war with it so I don’t talk to much about it [00:30:51] Hey Brandon how is your day going so far [00:38:11] chaotic [00:38:33] Oh that reminds me of a meme I sent to hypercane [00:38:50] y [00:42:56] Pardon [00:43:28] I remember OA's 5 - 1 bagels [00:43:38] Rip 💔 [00:43:42] Capitalism at its finest [00:48:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303521381358633081/image.png?ex=672c0e63&is=672abce3&hm=cad7464c0850979bdea58c8626601d4324b080877ff90ec2e81bf289d3d4ae82& [00:49:08] Oh that works but [00:49:20] Doesn't give me the emoji selector 😦 [00:49:29] Huh [00:51:12] It workss [02:13:54] [1/2] PA [02:13:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303542849413058560/6GoKnCX.png?ex=672c2261&is=672ad0e1&hm=07dff8ca7b0e2ba950c79ca698a41a69b11f5e3fa7dcfff8fabf244c81488625& [02:16:39] 20% reporting, but interesting [02:49:59] Gulp pulls collar wipes sweat from brow [02:50:31] Amen... [02:50:33] I forgot the election was today [02:50:52] :mrwmrmrmwm: [02:50:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303552176869740624/IMG_0277.png?ex=672c2b11&is=672ad991&hm=fad9a6f62e3ffc93f67eb6bbe88d2d66dd1ad8058f9cc6978233b254ea901e15& [02:50:59] i take it your not american [02:51:03] No [02:51:10] Not looking good [02:51:12] But [02:51:20] We need to account for the red mirage [02:51:40] votes are being counted still, and the first votes counted tend to be rural [02:51:49] which are usally right leaning [02:51:57] Good point [02:52:01] How long until it ends? [02:52:05] fingers crossed for the blueshift [02:52:24] god knows, its possible thursday if the pull something [02:52:35] Remember Cali don't close for an hour [02:52:44] its typically blue, and has 54 votes [03:04:52] IP [03:08:32] [1/2] I got sum [03:08:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303556597854765226/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_e188e994-c6f4-447b-abbb-3bc13dcfd320.jpg?ex=672c2f2f&is=672addaf&hm=2a5ca2c457ed5447d01f07190768ace371611d2fc35d58968e31de6d53a74e30& [03:11:51] hey claire [03:11:52] you bout [03:12:48] pixldev: usually no but yes this time [03:13:36] sweet so ignoring the red haze of death [03:13:46] do you want to tell me how braindead an idea is [03:13:58] wiki related [03:14:20] ignoring work again? [03:14:28] nah, ended early [03:15:45] Unlike prior elections there's also a big 'early/mail voting good' turnout effort on the right (which is opposite of people messaging) [03:15:56] > [06/11/2024 14:13] do you want to tell me how braindead an idea is [03:15:58] sure [03:16:10] So that may be skewing early results [03:16:29] to which side [03:16:33] so [03:16:45] say someone was working on CSS [03:17:16] Early results may be redder than expected [03:17:19] and they wanted to use a feature not supported in some older browsers but also not totally break [03:17:26] how dumb is it [03:17:39] uh [03:17:41] i don't think it's dumb? [03:17:49] to do smt php side to check browser version from the UA or the like to figure our what css to serve [03:17:57] eh... not the best idea [03:18:03] that's why user agents are the way they are [03:18:08] there we go [03:18:27] There are some other ways to fingerprint version i think [03:18:34] https://webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/ [03:22:01] beyond the UA part [03:22:03] bad idea? [03:23:42] oh my god i'm just looking at a specific thread from amber and wtf lol [03:23:52] anyway [03:23:55] > [06/11/2024 14:22] bad idea? [03:24:08] ideally should serve the same content to all browsers, but somehow have it not activate or fall back on the older ones [03:25:01] okay and now i'm sad wtf [03:25:03] what a disparity [03:38:35] Also [03:38:48] I was looking on my local wikis to find this while logged out [03:38:53] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303564236739448853/IMG_0503.png?ex=672c364d&is=672ae4cd&hm=2b19bd7e949624560db1cc02a043e659b2c9c00b4843b654d632acf6322250dd& [03:38:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303564237066731590/IMG_0504.png?ex=672c364d&is=672ae4cd&hm=56eef2a5a6a7631cd48ba5113d5cbc43bfc8da7a43d9ecca0628a4a30f230df9& [03:39:46] I wonder who that user is [03:40:46] hm [03:40:52] welp theyve been gdpr [03:40:59] cant tell ever no way no how [03:42:02] oh i know [03:42:05] it was... jimmy wales? [03:43:49] this is insanity [03:44:16] the facists are going to control all three branches of the US Federal Goverment [03:44:34] how's it looking right now? [03:45:28] [1/2] Really from my point of view I don’t see that as the case for that one person [03:45:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303565892860383362/IMG_0505.png?ex=672c37d7&is=672ae657&hm=9c2c9089389bc523a1dc20ad3d9b3180fd676260153d6189dd604787167e4f02& [03:47:02] i think the fascism claims are overexaggerated at best [03:47:39] Yeah it used so much that it meaning has become Null [03:47:49] At this point for one person [03:48:55] this is literally him [03:50:11] trans rescue may have their work cut out for them... [03:50:38] Prove that is him [04:05:27] I think it will be [04:05:33] Harris 290 - 248 Trump [04:05:38] PRAY [04:06:22] mildly sick right now [04:06:37] same [04:06:40] the fact that this election is close is disgraceful [04:06:51] its getting better [04:06:54] 179-213 [04:07:03] Also pix you did dodge the question [04:07:18] Yes because its 11PM im already stressed as hell [04:07:19] Ok then [04:07:28] well we can talk later when your mind is better [04:07:31] It’s 10 pm for me [04:07:35] So it’s also night [04:07:40] I need to sleep not argue over a man whos going to destory my friends rights [04:08:41] hes the president, not congressman??? i dont believe he could take away rights if he doesnt write laws [04:08:48] Yet that same man has not purposed anything of right changes of any gender but we can discuss this later [04:08:55] Goodnight, I'm going to try and sleep [04:09:11] they'll invoke a law from the 1800s lmao [04:09:14] everyone cares about presidential elections and not congressional elections or even state or local legislative elections which is quite unfortunate [04:09:18] and if it gets to the supreme court [04:09:19] well [04:09:59] Only wants president which is extremely different but anyway goodnight everyone needs their sleep and we will belive what we think [04:10:01] what law? [04:10:20] Let’s him sleep for a moment their is always time to discuss things later [04:12:53] I mean, they were literally campaigning on eliminating and reversing legal immigration... [04:13:27] Comstock act [04:13:40] That was illegal not legal the person has stated he wanted people to come in but only if they are verified or legally allowed [04:15:01] Nah man [04:15:02] Anyway political stuff can get heated and it’s 10:14 pm for me [04:15:47] They were straight up talking in recent rallies about reversing legal immigrant status, which is hot nonsense but 🤷 [04:18:54] Tl Dr for those who actually want context: the Comstock act was intended to block transit of 'immoral materials' through interstate mail services, but is written vaguely and very open to interpretation and abuse. [04:19:26] Largely unused during the last century and change, but very revivable [04:22:06] They were talking about illegal why would he want legals out of the country when he clearly states that he wants them to come in but only if they are verified I am trying to find that video of that statement as it does exist https://youtube.com/shorts/FVlgtnoWRmI?si=cbsU0Dcl_XiB97i0 [04:23:01] > [06/11/2024 15:08] Yet that same man has not purposed anything of right changes of any gender but we can discuss this later [04:23:10] second search result for "trump transgender" on duckduckgo: https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/05/10/trump-promises-rollback-on-trans-rights-heres-what-hes-said/ [04:24:15] Months ago thing [04:24:18] I will say [04:24:43] ...as if that's okay? [04:26:43] [1/2] This conversation will not result with all of us aligned nor change results. [04:26:43] [2/2] That, given realities of the moment, I'm okay with. Hell, I'm pretty sure statistically there are folks who voted differently than me in this chat. [04:26:54] yeah, fair enough [04:27:24] his main concern are things of economics and fixing the boarder Right changes at most would be something of making it of no men in women only things and no women in men only things tho this stuff gets to heated and blank we can stop here if you want [04:27:38] Because I will say I am not even past f tier debating [04:28:34] Tonight though, I'll be huddling together with those as stressed as me and hoping for a good outcome for the many at risk, then doing the work tomorrow to give them that [04:30:18] Alright tho blank did provide a source which is still something so I can’t discredit it as I haven’t fully looked into it yet [04:30:30] Anyway time for me to 🛏️ [04:31:09] is it a good idea for me to continue looking more and sending links? [04:32:28] I don't know that it'll be a productive use of time, but as long as folks stay civil, as you will. [04:37:30] Yeah blank if you want to proof a point with sources go right away [04:38:06] Oh forgot my bed [04:38:07] Jeez [04:38:18] 🤦‍♂️ [04:38:27] average minetest players after they just went out for exploring: ^ [04:51:08] i just dont like that people vote for a guy who said he'd date his daughter if she wasnt related and the fact he wants to put a person who had brain worms in charge of health [04:51:48] also like misuses the bible for his own gain [04:52:22] and has people who are spreading horrible racial shit about people who aren't white [04:52:55] saw some dumbass with a sign saying that we need trump to keep our dogs safe [04:53:03] n get rid of puerto ricans [04:53:33] :emoji4784: gee i sure wonder who fucked over puerto rico by not allowing them to even vote even though they are part of the us in some sense [04:54:40] i sure do love living in a country where i can easily be shot because i dont go to church or im not white or im part of the lgbtq i do love living in the 1800s so fun, so whens the polio outbreak or the spanish flu [05:05:13] oh god i have a meme for this [05:11:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303587571078660196/image0.gif?ex=672c4c08&is=672afa88&hm=e844a54a55ecf6f5f36cce4456c57b1ba074726407c069a2e86ffbadfb704c0d& [05:15:26] https://hard-drive.net/hd/doom-now-playable-in-voting-booths-to-commiserate-democracys-approaching-demise/ [05:17:26] you know what we need [05:17:35] remember compact Reddit [05:17:39] we need compact lemmy [05:18:04] new frontend idea [07:58:04] With the US, what I feel is probably enough to break the TOS of Discord more than 10 times if I say it. [07:58:18] yeah... [07:58:31] you have my matrix account though :p [07:58:56] or perhaps even fedi (though it's very much advised to CW your posts with uspol or similar) [07:59:15] Not just Discord. What I feel is probably offensive to Matrix, Fedi, just about any social media platform at this point. [07:59:35] matrix is e2ee so no one can tell ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [07:59:56] i want to hear your rant [08:02:37] I am SO FUCKING FURIOUS right now... [08:03:26] i'm actually not actively following the election [08:03:39] last i heard is "Harris has 194 right now and Trump has 266" [08:09:09] Will say, we all (across the political spectrum) are having some very big feelings at the moment, giving it 24 hours of ponder on whether it's also a good thing to say in a public venue is never a bad idea. [08:09:31] But absolutely feel free to go all out in your private and encrypted group chats. [08:12:23] thanks NA for being the one making sure that political discussions in here don't go haywire [08:13:21] Big night for Americans [08:13:26] Anyone with an inkling to my personal politics know that that requires substantial restraint. 🥲 [08:13:45] 224 - 267 [08:14:09] Agreed. With global and both micro and macro ramifications [08:14:19] in that case, sorry NA [08:14:28] I hope things turn out alright [08:14:34] Me too [08:14:59] i tried to make one matrix DM using the official element android client... got three rooms instead [08:15:21] What’s matrix? [08:15:41] yet another chat platform [08:15:43] matrix.org [08:17:47] > Too many requests have been sent. You can retry in 136 seconds... [08:17:52] girl i only made two invite requests [08:27:57] maybe putting myself down is a better option seeing our country is turning into one of those dystopian novels you read in school [08:28:08] oh god lmao [08:28:10] i [08:28:15] i'm not sure if i should laugh or not [08:28:56] go ahead [08:29:01] ahahaha [08:29:10] :emoji4784: this state and country is a joke anyways [08:29:33] ah yes vote for the guy who said haitians eat dogs or some shit [08:30:05] I always loved 80s music but i never said I love the fucking 80s politics [08:30:07] type of person who thinks that hot dogs are made out of dogs [08:31:18] i probably should have dinner lmao [08:31:28] go eat dinner dude [08:32:06] https://fosstodon.org/@bckohan/113435065049312074 [08:32:16] what is fosstodon [08:32:59] This reminds me of my both stupidest and most favorite TTRPG encounter I crafted: 30-50 wild hog elemental hogdogs [08:34:05] Imagine more or less a flock of het up wild fire-aligned corgi-boars and you've basically got the picture. [08:42:52] fosstodon is a Mastodon instance, and part of a federated social media network (sometimes called "the Fediverse" or "Fedi"). See for more info [08:43:26] technically a bit like Twitter but without as much vendor lock-in [09:13:35] sustenance: consumed [09:17:16] 😤 [09:18:47] trans people in the us: probably fucked? [09:44:42] arabs too [09:46:12] basically any minority [09:57:42] yup [10:44:23] women in the US: also fucked [10:44:31] Maternal mortality rate 📈📈📈 [10:45:09] OH GOD YEAH [10:45:22] also, you say that as if it hasn't already [10:45:53] https://time.com/6303701/a-rape-in-mississippi/ [10:46:44] https://www.wafb.com/2022/08/15/mother-claims-she-was-denied-an-abortion-despite-babys-condition/ [10:47:21] results of the house will be critical to look at [10:47:37] how much trump can do is hugely limited by the ability to control enough of congress to actually pass certain things [10:48:05] meanwhile in russia: childfree is an extremist movement (like lgbt+) [10:48:18] mmm [10:48:27] and iran: https://theconversation.com/iran-undressing-protest-shows-how-women-are-still-fighting-even-as-morality-laws-get-harsher-242797 [10:48:30] we've entered the slip, but we've done so for a while tbh [10:49:52] ngl was strange seeing news about protests in Iran, in 2022? only in independent russian news sites (which are blocked by kremlin) and vpn discord I hang on (since iran upped their blocks) [11:50:33] Trump has won [11:50:39] ...calm down, the United States is not going to disappear [11:50:51] and he will not end up completing the term [11:51:09] either Nancy Pelosi or Michelle Obama would've defeated Trump [11:51:25] Kamala was representing a govt that has been totally unable to change what Trump did [11:51:56] At least I hope some day Trump do apologize, because there was no fraud, there never was [11:52:21] And Other Hilarious Jokes That You Can Tell Yourself [11:52:27] (sorry, just had to) [11:57:08] US election is like a sick reality show for the rest of the world at this point lol [11:57:11] nancy would have been hillary 2.0 probably [11:57:19] michelle might have done it [11:57:24] oh u blue [11:57:31] there's not a lot of ways the democrats could have handled it worse [11:57:37] today was the day I dialed back, ye [11:59:32] i think the democrats made a really short sighted decision in casting mrs.harris the symptom of this being the case is michigan voted republican [11:59:54] wisconsin, michigan and PA going red was really really bad for her [12:00:23] harris was a bungled pick from the start including putting her in as veep imo [12:01:00] like i heard she was a persecuter which doesn't help her get the black vote at all [12:01:13] the campaign also failed to establish much direction, flip flopping from an unconvincing "joy campaign" to "don't vote for the other guy" [12:01:40] as a prosecutor her record is littered with splotches that the trump campaign didn't even have to dive into [12:02:01] but they probably could have advanced their lead earlier if they did because she's got skeletons [12:02:13] look up tulsi destroying her at early democratic debates in 2020 [12:02:21] she was a liability from the start and they shoved her in anyway [12:02:54] they could have casted detroits ex mayor by pardoning his crimes and casted him has the canidate and had a better chance [12:03:25] flip harris with walz and that might have gotten somewhere [12:03:41] but of course there were many choices and none were taken, so here we are [12:40:40] Yes, Biden's govt was one of the worst ones. [12:40:47] he did not change really much what Trump did [12:40:57] and people do not vote the copy, people vote the original [12:40:59] one [12:41:26] raidarr: either Nancy Pelosi or Michelle Obama, would've defeated Trump [12:41:31] it was too late when Biden left [12:41:48] I really don't think pelosi would have done it [12:41:59] and another Republican candidate like Nikki Haley, would've won by a landslide [12:42:03] michelle I agree would have had a shot [12:42:15] Pelosi would've done it, pretty sure [12:42:25] we'll have to agree to disagree there [12:42:42] why? [12:42:53] nikki could have made inroads, but it is clear there is a sufficiently large trump base that republicans would have probably taken a loss with nominal effort by the democrats [12:43:03] when dems won the Congress, she was the leader [12:43:05] Pelosi [12:43:07] and Trump was president [12:43:18] she was unpopular even among democrats, congress supports itself [12:43:21] fr [12:43:22] yes, sadly Trump bought the GOP [12:43:42] I don't even know much about Pelosi but I have heard that she does a lot of stock trading based on insider information so I think that would've been heavily exploited [12:43:58] honestly, I doubt the situation in Lebanon/Gaza would be any better, but I hope the war stops [12:44:00] So I agree with Raidarr there [12:44:02] she was losing wind with harder left interests so would have been sabotaged, would have been relatively easy to paint under a hillary brush as a corrupt bureaucrat, and would have lost with nominal republican effort to smear her into the dirt [12:44:12] pretty sure she's also biden age or getting close [12:44:19] yeah, I fully see this [12:44:23] justleafy2003: I prefer Iran getting defeated [12:44:30] I support Israel and I don't hide it [12:44:37] Israel is a free country [12:44:50] Palestine should exist, but not under Hamas rule [12:45:00] I respectfully disagree [12:45:04] I can agree on that [12:45:23] at this point for better or worse straight trump is already 'over' in respect there can only be four years from here, and now it is a long term question how the trumpification of the party will stabalize and who will take the 'throne' [12:45:24] in Palestine women can't go out without a hijab [12:45:44] but imbeciles still support them [12:46:11] yeah they can [12:46:20] Israel is the country with better quality of life [12:46:24] in middle east [12:46:30] it's a modern state [12:46:33] a modern country [12:46:39] it looks like Europe [12:46:54] and they are not the devil that leftards, and anti-west people want you to think [12:47:08] s/leftards/Latin American leftards [12:47:14] also terrorists [12:47:19] and CCP, and Putin [12:47:49] yeah, but the dark side to it is that it was mostly built on stolen land and they still continue to occupy the West Bank and bomb innocent civilians in Gaza and South Lebanon [12:48:08] if they stop doing that, and come with a two-state solution, I wouldn't mind Israel anymore [12:49:22] there's gotta be a pathway to peace at some point [13:01:19] Welp [13:01:28] Here we are [13:03:05] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [13:03:29] Ukraine is fucked 👍 [13:03:49] very cool /s [13:07:14] Basically [13:22:56] Innocent civilians always die in every war [13:22:59] Sadly [13:23:17] Why don't you say that Hamas is doing the same? [13:23:32] I am not speaking about West Bank/Fatah [13:23:37] plus [13:23:52] instead of supporting EU and US, Abbas supports Russia and China [13:23:56] that makes it even worse [13:24:04] just embrace Western values and that's all [13:24:10] it's a silly war [13:24:29] you can live very well if you're a Muslim in Israel [13:24:44] but you might be killed if you are a Jew in Palestine [13:45:24] https://youtube.com/watch?v=9rqKMn1hgaQ [13:45:54] Well, Well, Well [14:08:43] Western values can't fit all the stuffs [14:09:03] stuff has no plural afaik [14:09:09] and they can [14:09:38] there are countries like Cote d'Ivoire where it's half/half christian/muslim and they are not fighting between each other [14:10:10] same Mauritania, Nigeria, Cameroon, etc [14:10:19] Oh, I thought you mean capitalism [14:10:38] Capitalism is not bad, capitalism is very good [14:10:55] But the US is not the most capitalist country in the world [14:11:01] Capitalism means free market, and free trade [14:11:04] not protectionism [14:11:07] not nationalism [14:11:20] is Trump a capitalist? no, he's just a lobbymaker shill [14:11:39] I am a minarchist, someone who believes in a little state [14:11:52] the US has a lot of taxes too [14:12:25] the most capitalist countries in the world would be Singapore (authoritarian), Switzerland (democratic), Taiwan (democratic) [14:12:54] Current China perfectly fits in fascism [14:13:03] and same about Russia [14:16:07] butting my head in to say that i fully expected trump t [14:16:11] to win [14:16:41] but wanted kamala to win anyway because we cannot have another trump administration [14:17:56] what trump plans to do with his little “project 2025” of his is nothing to scoff at but trump is pretty incompitent when it comes to being a president [14:18:27] he’s literally a convicted felon who’s still allowed to run [14:18:33] Looks like we’re gonna have to 💀 [14:18:45] Not to mention an international laughingstock and embarrassment [14:19:08] [1/2] sigh [14:19:08] [2/2] sad mickey mouse walking away gif [14:19:13] https://tenor.com/view/mickey-mouse-mickey-mouse-clubhouse-mickey-mouse-clubhouse-sad-mickey-mouse-clubhouse-mickey-sad-mickey-mouse-club-house-mickey-sad-walking-gif-13206007519278579488 [14:21:04] human rights really should not be up to debate [14:22:26] 💯 [14:27:32] what did trump even say he would do that would positively effect the us [14:31:37] Immigration [14:31:39] okay i have heard that trump may have declared an early victory and it’s NOT OVER [14:31:50] i think votes are still being counted [14:31:53] maybe [14:32:01] that’s what i heard anyway [14:32:04] "ecOnOMy" [14:32:32] I think PA may be close enough for an automatic recount [14:45:12] it's not positive [14:45:20] immigration moves the world [14:45:34] foreign people makes your country or mine, better [14:45:38] I’m saying what he said, not what’s true [14:45:39] Lol [14:45:50] because borders are useful lines, but finally, they are just imaginary [14:45:52] they are fake [14:46:10] Oh yeah RFK in charge of women’s health [14:49:41] what or who is RFK? [14:50:33] Wait [14:50:34] Not that one [14:50:59] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr. [14:51:01] This one [14:51:30] You know it’s bad when the lead calls him an anti vaccine activist And a conspiracy theorist [14:52:10] > Robert Francis Kennedy Jr. (born January 17, 1954), also known by his initials RFK Jr., is an American politician, environmental lawyer, anti-vaccine activist, and conspiracy theorist. He is the chairman and founder of Children's Health Defense, an anti-vaccine advocacy group that is a leading proponent of COVID-19 vaccine misinformation. [14:52:11] This man [14:52:15] In charge of health [14:52:18] In the US [15:08:43] at least 95, more often 98+% of votes have been tallied in most states [15:09:01] barring an impactful recount, massive procedural error or something of the like, it is not really possible for another outcome to take place now [15:10:26] second top elected choice, beat out by a candidate on the heavy left (the amount of pushback greens will get as a spoiler will probably be severe) and beating a candidate of the top third party in the US who represents government being less meddling [15:11:01] said third party is and has been a total disaster for some years but I digress [15:28:22] No man should be making decisions about womens bodies full stop. [15:28:43] (Just realised your comment wasn't really regarding womens health but my point still stands) [15:29:10] the counter argument has always been where do the rights of the unborn in relation to that begin [15:29:30] for the record I am fairly staunchly against the government having say in the matter [15:38:04] 💯 [15:47:37] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmenTtGe_6I this is something you might like [17:27:09] [1/2] Solved it. Verstappen for president 😂😂😂😂 [17:27:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303772678385176709/20241106_182442.jpg?ex=672cf86d&is=672ba6ed&hm=9c2d5305df5524172ecf18a0bfd2cc0732fb003d2e9135f933e85bebc556b71c& [18:00:38] [1/2] Does anyone have any good sources about the election? I am pretty confused on the whole matter, mainly due to how different it feels compared to the other ones I've been through [18:00:39] [2/2] I don't usually look into the stuff cuz I'm not American [18:00:52] Not sure what's confusing, Trump won? [18:01:02] Not really much more to it than that? [18:01:03] AP News is what I’m using currently [18:01:16] NBC also covers, plus basically every news group [18:06:58] <.guardianx.> It's so crazy how many people just straight up did not vote on our side numbers wise compared to last time. Personally, I blame those people for this outcome, whatever their reason doesn't justify what they just did to an entire nation by staying home. [18:07:38] It's confusing how people are reacting. I have no idea why people are scared and terrified for their lives. [18:08:54] I've never seen so many act this way by an election before [18:09:34] I've seen people get upset, but genuine terror? [18:12:08] Like, what did Trump say [18:12:17] <.guardianx.> Like I really want somebody to explain that to me. Why is it in 2020? We had millions more people voting on our side and now in 2024 with even greater issues at stake, fewer people showed up. [18:12:31] <.guardianx.> Sorry for formatting issues. Typing this on my phone.. [18:15:28] [1/2] first of all [18:15:29] [2/2] project 2024 [18:35:52] [1/2] never got around checking out Ministry but nice [18:35:52] [2/2] I still haven't divided into NIN or DM despite knowing them since school lol, it's like getting lazy? [19:12:15] the vastly lower number of voters is surprising to me [19:20:18] [1/2] > Like, what did Trump say [19:20:18] [2/2] here's a list: [20:00:59] Guest on IRC made a big difference i think [20:14:53] it's not surprising [20:15:01] between two bad candidates [20:22:32] not alone someone who had fucking brain worms and is missing parts of his brain [20:22:52] also for some reason brought a dead bear to a park [20:23:42] [1/2] because people have given up and also did this bullshit [20:23:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1303817104272658544/image_-_2024-11-06T140010.png?ex=672d21cd&is=672bd04d&hm=443538962b35ae50dfd66a65e4b599bc63c27d797f8d87c97f58b0cff8710e6c& [20:23:57] :emoji4784: [20:24:02] i fucking hate it here [20:26:07] didn't people wrote Harambe in 2016 lol [20:26:22] funny people [20:27:19] and yeah, unlike in places like Russia or Venezuela votes in US actually matters [20:29:27] [1/4] basically there was bad person who would of killed more people but at least spoke some actual change in a debate [20:29:27] [2/4] then the other person whos got 34 felonies, was friends with a pedophile, said he'd date his daughter if they weren't related which has lead to his daughter distancing herself from him, he wants to put a guy who's got brain worms in charge of health and also says he'll think about anti-vax, hates the caribbean even though we literally forced p [20:29:27] [3/4] r to join us and we dont let them vote, has said haitians eat dogs, kept focusing on what biden did during his debate instead of what he will do, uh turned covid into a political diasaster and blamed the chinese, has been abusing the word of the bible for his own gain, only using immigration policy for popular vote, wants to remove abortion al [20:29:27] [4/4] l together, strengthen the 2nd amendment when we should have regulations on it so people dont just own a military gun, i mean I could go on but I rather jump out the window [20:30:17] like if you watched the debate all he did was just go "well you see in biden's administrat-" BITCH TALK ABOUT YOUR PLAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO FIX THINGS [20:30:58] 🫡 i so feel safe in a state where I could be pulled off into the bushes by some maga guy and be shot because I am transgender [20:35:18] Oh lovely... [20:37:46] Now imagine this guy has been announcing for the last 4 years he'd be running for president and their biggest rivals couldn't manage to find a proper candidate to face him... [20:38:11] Yea... [20:38:26] I heard less people voted this time [21:16:32] cant find it, can u link it plz [21:17:15] nvm it was fake blargh i hate when people do that knowing its hard to find shit when people keep posting so much on this [21:18:03] yea think of king james II or like reagan [21:18:57] ever wanted to see the 1980s? you get ur wish [21:22:21] I will always disregard meme format posts unless they come with a link or prove true on research [21:22:38] headlines without links I should say [21:33:41] More like 1984 [21:34:28] fdr rolling in his grave [22:17:58] mass deportations of "illegal immigrants", "in just one very bad day" he said he can get rid of all crime, big etc... [22:19:19] it will be interesting thinking about how they will go about the deportation plan they have. Moving people is costly, and they don't consider those people humans to begin with, so if_ [22:19:41] it they do follow through on that promise I legit expect extermination camps [22:22:43] yep [22:24:29] good luck to those of you in the US, hopefully if democracy isn't fully destroyed by then you'll have a chance to vote again in 2028 [22:25:28] executive overreach in handling immigration is an issue I indeed partially blame on presidency (it will become more extreme under new trump but was already rough for many terms including biden's), and also, on congress completely failing to come up with an answer despite having the chance multiple times and proposals that could have made progress [22:25:38] though, now that I remember, trump was a lot of why the last attempt failed [23:55:52] ha, Cleveland with Benjamin Harrison