[00:09:23] Persistent hosting or just up and down hosting? [00:09:39] Persistent...unless you're gonna rip out the battery and plug it in 24/7. [00:09:42] Go for it. [00:09:58] If not. that poor lithium battery might explode. [02:27:21] ^ [02:58:43] how funny would it be if i said that i fixed an rce in miraheze and didn't elaborate for a couple hours [03:00:50] like what you’re doing rn? [03:01:20] :Giggle: [03:08:52] Not clue. [03:08:58] Am too dumb to tell the difference. [03:27:10] pixldev: yeah :3c [03:27:44] the disclosure time is proportional to the length of thus currently ongoing blahaj hugging session [03:31:44] may it be very long [03:38:38] unknown [03:38:55] i can forsee it going at least half an hour without intervention thougu [03:57:14] I don’t see ticket yet [04:18:13] agentisai: i was too lazy to make one tho [04:18:23] + it's already patched so idt it really matters [04:19:16] but if you wanna do so before i make my writeup, then details are at https://mattermost.wikitide.net/wikitide-foundation/pl/m6w6ncp6zjdn8m1fgsqy3pxaao [04:21:08] alright... time to stop blahaj hugging [04:29:40] why do queer people love blahaj so much [04:29:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1349962678512128031/IMG_0262-1.gif?ex=67d50237&is=67d3b0b7&hm=fc76b2e497a231d7b26f67252e3e3bb4be4e63dc190d4fc8ff7d8e7dfc3159e9& [04:33:28] Cute, about to do what I mentioned, Claire~? [04:35:44] [1/2] what does this mean [04:35:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1349964188914810910/IMG_0262-1.gif?ex=67d5039f&is=67d3b21f&hm=da85abcd1d62a1cbf691865bba547e3be65911790ca3450c8418ea24c5fefccf& [04:36:16] Cat [04:37:32] it's a car, ma'am [04:37:48] It does have a rumble, like a motor vehicle [04:38:07] I can't send images still, discrimination smh [04:38:50] Blahaj is like all things internet. It is a meme, it is nothing, it is emblematic, it is silly, and it is shaped like friend. [04:39:30] I am cuddling Blahaj atm [04:41:06] Unlike most internet memes, it also has a physical aspect you can hug/cuddle [04:42:14] When will I get link privileges btw [04:42:28] When you make an account and vaerify it [04:42:56] all my gifs are too inappropriate here... [04:43:02] 💔 💔 💔 💔 💔 [04:43:09] Then better suited for elswhere. 😄 [04:43:12] Evil [04:43:20] It takes 50 seconds [04:43:41] I will just ask Claire to make me an acc ig [04:44:11] you shouldn't be lazy 💔 💔 💔 💔 💔 [04:44:26] Nah, being lazy is good [04:45:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1349966523313422358/bricks.mov?ex=67d505cc&is=67d3b44c&hm=89cf400f8a5c20e8617fe1047ea443458f041d03c252dba2a188ee5cf3a27127& [04:45:10] How does one verify anyway [04:45:23] #verify [04:45:25] Claire is busy blahaj hugging or smth and I am eepi [04:45:57] I get the hesitance, but we've also had enough serious abuse of server that this was the best compromise to ensure that Miraheze spaces are used for Miraheze things [04:46:07] > [14/03/2025 15:35] [1/2] what does this mean [04:46:08] no one knows tbh [04:46:28] i wonder what the prevalence if it is for cis folx tho [04:46:42] BlankEclair: dummy why ignoring my DM [04:46:47] i just got on lappy lol [04:46:51] just read it, will reply [04:47:02] That doesn't really make sense tbh [04:47:21] oh i get it's kissing [04:47:30] You expect that if I wanted to do abuse that a login prompt would stop me x3 [04:48:01] You're approaching this from the wrong angle/expectation, but I don't really have time to get into it [04:48:02] alu19_: i assume it's for like most automated spam bots right? [04:48:29] Point is, links/images are low-hanging fruit as absue vectors, as Claire surmised [04:48:57] why does wikimedia use file uploads instead of like IDK the straight up uploads you see on a ton of other sites [04:49:13] Well, I am obviously not an automated spam bot [04:49:16] wdym file uploads [04:49:59] like you have to upload it [04:50:17] uhhhhh yeah? [04:50:37] I don't agree but meh, bad decisions are bad decisions [04:50:42] why does mediawiki do that instead of those one time uploads on a lot of other shites [04:51:15] You literally don't have to be here, we moderate our server as we see fit based on past experience and best practice [04:51:55] dullbird173: in case you wannya reuse the file? [04:52:03] Are you telling me to fuck off ? [04:52:03] @alu19_ Watch your language. [04:52:04] oh [04:52:15] that was an easy answer [04:52:22] lol yw [04:52:27] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1349968398334951535/IMG_1391.webp?ex=67d5078b&is=67d3b60b&hm=39019233d85111505048122b187cf726c89fdc111d7fc864c1e96715f646b552& [05:25:11] [1/4] Not in the slightest, more trying to convey that: [05:25:11] [2/4] * The current anti-spam/anti-abuse measures were defined by observing trends in on-server behavior [05:25:11] [3/4] * This is a miraheze-specific support server, we aren't going to cater to the open low-moderation preferences of a smaller social server. [05:25:11] [4/4] * There are other social-focused servers better-suited if you don't find ours satisfactory [05:26:25] Usually, large servers that have a moderation policy to prevent spam (which is fair) have an additional manual override to be able to flexibly adapt to situations [05:27:06] This is my first time seeing a server without a manual override being an option [05:27:40] What I find silly is not the requirement of an account, but rather the fact that it is applied even in cases where it does not serve the intended purpose [05:29:55] We find ourselves in the weird circumstance of being a fairly small project that became rapidly big, so some niceties are definitely missing. [05:30:12] But we are first and foremost a support server for the miraheze project, which is why that requirement exists. [05:30:22] happy to field suggestions for improvements though. [05:30:50] [1/2] If there is a technical problem in the way, feel free to mention [05:30:50] [2/2] Something like "we tie verified users to their miraheze acc in a database, our bot will break if that's missing" [05:31:05] are the measures mostly for anti-spam or are there LTAs or such doing abuse w/ images or links as well [05:31:16] Both. Oh god so much both. [05:31:28] The hell that neither of you saw in the days before. LD [05:31:32] *:D [05:31:49] if it's the former then i'd suggest something like adding a min message limit before autogranting perms if there's no account attached [05:31:53] the latter though... oof [05:32:03] oh no, line-delimited json /lh [05:32:52] Don't even get me started on the weird python issue I was fighting earlier today that turned out to be a non-rendered space [05:33:02] zws my beloved [05:33:22] [1/3] Fwiw I lurk around here cuz I wanna hang out in places my Claire hangs out [05:33:23] [2/3] I am hopeless at Wiki stuff & PHP but I am also a security & tech creature. [05:33:23] [3/3] If I was here for Miraheze support I would also be hesitant to link my account because it causes a lot of strain on my mental health to go through login & register forms [05:33:28] Evil [05:34:07] Put ; in your JS [05:34:14] oh no [05:34:22] U+037E [05:34:43] we should go edit all js pages to have that on april fools /j [05:34:45] Also [05:34:47] ﹔ [05:34:56] full width : i'm guessing? [05:34:57] And [05:34:59] ︔ [05:35:30] Unicode is evil [05:35:46] I gotta stop myself from ranting about Unicode more [05:35:58] Like for example [05:36:18] The various fun edge cases you trigger with ZWJ'd emojis like 🏳️‍⚧️ [05:36:24] the qt bugs... [05:36:27] No unicode engine can agree [05:36:29] not very qt of qt [05:36:31] On the sequence [05:36:47] Eg. foot will render it just with the 3 codepoints [05:36:54] But FF needs 6 codepoints [05:37:02] Or it will break [05:37:19] that time when i was fucking debugging qt to make the trans flag work [05:37:20] Afaik Chromium is even more fucky [05:37:20] @alu19_ Watch your language. [05:37:40] What is the damn bot's problem, smh [05:37:44] ikr [05:37:47] bitch please /lh [05:38:00] I will curse at it in UTF-32 [05:38:11] Awawawa 🥺🥺🥺 [05:38:14] i think i was able to get it to render... if you have only one font and used a specific sequence that don't include the variation selectors [05:38:30] nya,,, [05:38:36] Oh, FF needs the variation selectors [05:38:38] Hahahahah [05:38:43] Foot works without em [05:39:00] i think the variation selectors fucked up how it chunked the sequence and chose which font to pick? [05:39:01] But FF needs 2 variation selector codepoints iirc [05:39:08] Who knows tbh [05:39:21] This fuckery was dreamed up while someone was high on LSD [05:39:21] @alu19_ Watch your language. [05:39:21] me vaguely a couple months ago x3 [05:39:27] Oh goddd [05:39:31] Claire you masochist [05:39:36] Wait that is already known [05:39:36] fawiuflaiwefwaebuawbuwaiuauwefbulawiblifew [05:39:47] :3 [05:39:54] So cute [05:39:56] reminds me of that one time i was debugging a gui c program for several days [05:40:03] wondering why it was segfaulting [05:40:09] Oh GOD [05:40:12] turns out that it was calling an x11 api under wayland [05:40:12] Oh GOOOD [05:40:17] Yea uhh [05:40:19] several days, for a ~5 line fix [05:40:21] And no error checking [05:40:26] It do be like that [05:40:29] I love X11 [05:40:44] Hearing X11 gives me PTSD [05:41:23] it rams along and tries to read some internal data structure as some x11 thing while it was actually some wayland thing <3 [05:42:44] What in the actual flying fuck [05:42:44] @alu19_ Watch your language. [05:42:57] @Dyno fuck [05:43:05] ooookay [05:45:11] Gonna take a real left field turn here... [05:45:17] <@786616749298024448> fuck [05:45:21] What does dyno think about the phrase "Fuck the police" [05:45:25] you know that i gotta have to test this out [05:45:33] No action. Interesting. [05:45:50] Damn it, BE. We had the same idea. LD [05:45:52] 😄 [05:45:53] <@786616749298024448> fucking fuck fornicate fuck fuck [05:46:05] I don't think Dyno knows that the relay is people [05:46:19] > Tell the admin that there's no action cuz they are admin lol [05:46:20] :p [05:46:37] idk dyno is gonna poke me neither [05:46:55] so i regrettably can't fucking swear at it to fucking poke me [05:47:22] Oh interesting, apparently there's some minimum fuckery and other foul words that are permitted if you've received a minimum level of permission. [05:47:28] Hadn't explored this before [05:47:32] btw, can you unmute alu lol [05:47:39] Yeah, one sec. [05:47:52] Fuck, thank you :) [05:47:52] @alu19_ Watch your language. [05:48:05] fucking hell [05:48:08] @Alu, you're back in the land of the off-topic bitch-sesh. [05:48:12] Enjoy [05:48:26] I can't join the fuck session or it will yeet me again, can I [05:48:26] @alu19_ Watch your language. [05:48:33] Hahahaha [05:48:35] dyno what the fuck [05:48:39] Dyno, you're a treat [05:48:43] Ahahah [05:48:52] This will make no sense to any who come after [05:49:04] reminds me of this name in a video i saw [05:49:05] Dyno, bot of all time, truly [05:49:10] WE HAVE PS5S IN STOCK!!!!!!!!!! [05:49:13] TL;DR: The autobots do roll out, for swears only [05:49:18] Don't u wanna turn it off [05:49:23] I swear a lot [05:49:26] i didn't expect it to mute tbh [05:49:29] Esp. when talking about unicode [05:49:31] i thought it was a "gentle" reminder [05:49:31] Same [05:49:40] It gets less gentle with repeat instances [05:49:46] fucking hell, okay [05:49:53] I am a masochist but not this way [05:50:02] Oh hell, don't like that. [05:50:21] Was idling in a game while these shenigans were ongoing [05:50:26] Started hailing. [05:50:29] LMFAO [05:50:32] yw <3 [05:50:33] Hailing ? Like [05:50:34] and ty! [05:50:35] The weathee [05:50:35] Turns out there's a hail concussion mechanic [05:50:37]