[00:25:22] yea do not rely on chatgpt or any ai for research [00:25:32] oftentimes it hallucinates, pulls from shitposts, etc. [00:27:03] unironically i think wikipedia is more reliable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(mind_game) [01:31:03] ChatGPT sucks but when my college was asking me to spend 300 dollars on DRM-locked text books I said eff-that and used ChatGPT to study instead. It was not ideal but I passed. [01:32:04] DRM text books is such a cursed idea, I hate the 21st century. [01:35:40] > [13/04/2025 00:41] Kinda wondering how do YouTubers get the Windows 7/XP for VMs? [01:35:49] awesomegamer101: you dig up graveyards [01:37:02] or you go on archvie.org [01:41:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1360792081831825480/WinXPProSP3x86_archive.torrent?ex=67fc67e2&is=67fb1662&hm=4ad07b85b4e62716cede7e01c59fee79f60085a3dab29dc32107663d80f6853e& [01:42:10] This is how [01:42:22] Underground deals in Discord servers [01:50:04] more tame version: https://archive.org/details/WinXPProSP3x86 [01:56:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1360795735716532354/image.png?ex=67fc6b49&is=67fb19c9&hm=1d6f27ab234b11379fa0e9cbcf4ecccbfa81e066b57bc9f7f045621a4dfe3375& [01:56:29] Which is what I sent :3 [03:40:46] https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page [03:40:48] a wild mw! [09:21:33] Kinda terrified of updating to W11 24H2 as I heard that that one is the bricker. [09:24:55] it was, not sure if it improved [09:25:03] can't see a reason to do it anyway tbh [09:26:52] I'm honestly scared that not updating would lead to either viruses or a forced update either way. [09:32:11] what version are you on now [09:32:28] viruses are really a different consideration that is not tied directly or exclusively to updates [09:32:47] at least in pretty version numbers from windows [09:34:39] getting defender updates and being up to speed on internet-facing software, among other things like reducing how much random code from the internet you are running and learning a little about hardening, are the real ways to avoid the former. Forced updates can be neutered. But personally I can't imagine running windows as-is out of the box these days anyway [09:35:34] if you're not using a version years out of updates then you gain plain nothing by being an early adopter, I'll put it that way [09:36:09] 23H2. [09:41:02] end of official service is in november, you're fine and can check back then to see 24h2's status [09:41:16] if you run a few days over you will not instantly be malwarized [09:41:34] remember there are wild people running 7 still doing shaky or nonexistent serious hardening effort [09:42:11] plenty time to look into alternative OS even, but that's my bias talking [09:43:59] Honestly, the Linux community's vocal side kinda made me hate that OS due to their bashing of Windows users. Hell, maybe their worst is that one fake W11 installer that destroys the OS and has a picture of Tux, the mascot. [09:44:21] thing about linux is that it's never one thing [09:44:35] there are many many subcommunities of varied attitude including toxicity [09:44:57] I would almost barely tentatively recommend mac or android if that's all you need though over microshit products [09:45:23] no I don't think I'm at the point of actually suggesting mac [09:45:54] but if I was stuck with windows 11's train and literally no other option it would be a tough choice [10:00:29] > Hell, maybe their worst is that one fake W11 installer that destroys the OS and has a picture of Tux, the mascot. [10:00:35] awesomegamer101: wait, what did i miss? O_o [10:10:37] I just recently hopped onto the Linux OS club on my laptop, haven’t engaged much with the community but don’t personally know anyone like that [10:15:21] Overgeneralizations of entire communities of any kind are always harmful. That goes in both directions. [10:17:01] bruh [10:17:06] vile [10:39:18] [1/2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCVgo9GJCA [10:39:19] [2/2] It's basically this one thing that made me hate Linux permanently. [10:47:03] I could theoretically make this for any Linux distro(probably much easier too) and brand it with Apple is supreme, or Microsoft we trust. Should the victims or even the viewers of that develop a loathing for those OS? [10:47:31] You got a good point. [10:49:13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1360929814185377852/Screenshot_20250413-124649_Discord.png?ex=67fce828&is=67fb96a8&hm=af722329764a779d1669077de8aab5095e24d4980932f0d1bed8cb29b7e1150d& [12:28:29] [1/3] it took them 2 years to consider [12:28:29] [2/3] I've seen countless posts of people begging them to forks, even bringing up PT wiki as example [12:28:29] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1360954797339050298/IMG_20250413_152730.jpg?ex=67fcff6d&is=67fbaded&hm=6b0362cbcefac20c52809c288f3058b73ac88f4d8c96cc73b228d410ec6d631f& [12:32:35] Base FNF is on Wiki.gg. [12:34:08] [1/3] https://atchronology.com/media [12:34:08] [2/3] holy shit [12:34:09] [3/3] more adventure time [12:36:39] yup [13:42:00] I'd say those are basically the only viable wiki farms currently [13:42:12] (the ones they say they already have the names of) [14:46:57] FextraLife? [14:49:09] people hate fextra more than fandom [16:41:50] [1/2] Beyond being a non-mediawiki homebrew (which makes emigration difficult if you ever choose to leave) their thing is very advert/social integration focused. [16:41:50] [2/2] It has it's pros and cons. [17:00:07] https://bsky.app/profile/enderman0125.bsky.social/post/3lmpbfro2gs2c [17:05:11] Wait really?? [17:06:13] Yeah, Fextralife runs its own in-house thing, specifically because it's a media company that dabbles in wikis. [17:06:38] Try going to Special:Version on any of their wikis [17:09:22] Not to say they're the worst thing in the world, they do give a lot of the skeleton of a wiki + pre-populated game specific structure out of the box [17:13:20] Yeah, I think wiki.gg and WeirdGloop are the only farms that are really comparable to us [17:13:33] And ShoutWiki of course but they don't get much activity these days [17:24:22] I disagree on the latter [17:24:40] WeirdGloop is a host but not a farm [17:25:13] Fair, I don't know too much about their model except that they're selective with wikis [17:26:06] Yeah, also don’t use CentralAuth praise be [17:26:17] Though of course wiki.gg doesn't fully compare either since they only do gaming [17:28:01] not anymore [17:28:09] they are general now [17:28:18] For uber big wikis (example, Forgotten Realms) where the downtime issues we still have (though rarely) and where either less customization/needing to work with staff is expected or acceptable/desired, I would honestly sometimes recommend WeirdGloop over us if I think they’d accept or have offered [17:28:20] mostly pop culture, not allowing fanon wikis tho [17:29:31] iirc they changed ad model too [17:30:57] Given I know MC Wikis, RuneScape, etc have registered legal entities representing them(e.g. Block & Quill) I think they may have a legal service level agreement too [17:54:16] Oh, I didn't know that [17:54:31] So I guess now they're a bit in between Fandom and us [18:54:59] I kinda miss ShoutWiki, even fi I never really had a good experience there. [19:29:08] Who wants to make YellWiki [20:11:48] heres a tip to enjoying linux don't engage with the community although if you go by what ones i've found that are more chill the mint community and the protondb community are okay [20:17:07] I need to check out the Fedora community [20:17:14] :fedowa: [23:27:32] Don't [23:47:15] Haha [23:48:34] Oh right viruses are a thing you have to worry about on Windows x3 [23:49:02] Usually best to just switch to LTSC [23:50:15] linux gets viruses and it's dangerously complacent to consider it inherently more secure [23:50:39] Find me one kernel RCE [23:50:43] ltsc is the best version [23:51:14] it only takes one kernal rce considering the gigachonky surface of attack level the linux kernal bares to every application unless they're buried in apparmor or selinux [23:51:35] flatpak et most are jokes for sandboxing [23:52:16] updates in general are all over the place, the linux kernal is supposed to be a more secure update model but that heavily comes down to choice of distribution and updates [23:52:42] two desktops properly sandbox gui out of leading options [23:53:49] with a few tricks applied, or even without you can probably be fine, but as I noted somewhere above in the channel there are people who don't do a lot to harden windows 7 and they're fine so there you go [23:54:22] I am expecting pwnage to increase as linux market share increases especially among distributions that are more lax [23:55:11] I don't really follow there [23:55:18] I said RCE [23:55:20] Not privesc [23:55:26] In the kernel [23:55:34] So, in the TCP/IP stack [23:55:58] frankly I don't particularly care about rce count [23:56:00] Or a bug in a subsystem that a userspace program relies on [23:56:02] I do [23:56:05] the other bits I listed are what concern me [23:56:16] those and open source supply chain attacks [23:56:45] The reason why I do is because you can run a kernel from 10 years ago [23:56:54] With up-to-date userspace [23:56:56] And be secure [23:56:59] But you can't do that with Linux [23:57:46] Well, I'd err on the side of caution with running a 10 years old kernel [23:57:50] But 2 years old kernel should be fine [23:58:29] Define "properly sandbox gui" [23:58:48] x11 vs wayland [23:59:01] Linux runs on more devices than Windows lol [23:59:06] What about them [23:59:35] I am not arsed to argue about it tonight frankly, if you think it's all pippity snap then by all means [23:59:50] x3 [23:59:55] What about not putting words into my mouth