[00:31:29] <BlankEclair>	 Asko: testing the battles of curl
[00:31:36] <BlankEclair>	 okay, that sounds like a fun idea lol
[00:31:42] <BlankEclair>	 how many concurrent requests can curl make?
[00:31:49] <Asko>	 at least 1
[00:31:54] <BlankEclair>	 woaaaa
[00:32:15] <Asko>	 gunning for that smartass of the year award i am
[00:32:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> i love having to mark my own messages as marked
[00:33:45] <Asko>	 mirahezerelay if it could relay messages as read on discord: (futuristic utopia meme here)
[00:33:59] <BlankEclair>	 send your jwt here <3
[00:34:12] <BlankEclair>	 aaaand end of recess
[00:34:19] <Asko>	 omg already
[00:38:00] <Asko>	 also i should totally trust my jwt into the hands of someone with like 20 CVEs
[00:39:46] <Asko>	 it would guarantee a fun time at least
[01:03:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Did anyone see the salesforce CEO say they wont hire any more engineers because AI is already doing 30-50% of the work lol
[01:03:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Yeah it shows, using Salesforce software is worse than using Microsoft Teams
[01:10:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> salesworse
[01:56:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> Lets not be hasty here
[02:17:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Salesforced redundancies
[02:18:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to originalauthority> I think this will not go well in 3-5 months.
[02:48:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> https://www.robotstxt.org
[02:48:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> this site is very MediaWiki esque
[03:18:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Huh yeah
[03:18:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> If not for the url I would’ve thought it was
[03:36:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> The hell you mean it’s not
[04:25:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <huannengqizhaban> Who know Moegirlpedia?It becomes worse after moved into China mainland
[04:25:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <huannengqizhaban> Is it a good idea to save it to MH?
[05:14:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to huannengqizhaban> scraping it is a pain in the ass
[05:14:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to huannengqizhaban> it's a good idea to get the agreement from the community to fork first
[05:21:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to blankeclair> @posix_memalign do you think a vpn would work to get past the captcha? or will it make it worse lol
[05:21:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to huannengqizhaban> [1/2] Please don't. Besides what Claire said, it is also ridiculously large. They have [374.49GB of files](https://commons.moegirl.org.cn/Special:媒体统计), which is several times larger than the largest wiki on MH and likely a significant burden. They use the Widget extension, which is disabled on MH and has no hope of being enabled. They use the `img` tag
[05:21:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to huannengqizhaban> [2/2] , which will not be processed properly on MH.
[05:24:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to blankeclair> [1/2] It'll need to be specifically located in China, which might ameliorate the captcha issue. It'll come with some privacy concerns since no reputable VPN service provider has Chinese servers: their privacy policy would run against local legislation (i.e. handing your data to the government). I've also heard many other Chinese editors complain about the WA
[05:24:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to blankeclair> [2/2] F/captcha scaring away new users, so the improvement would likely be slight.
[05:25:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i was wondering if we could cycle IP upon captcha
[05:25:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> but that's dependent if a vpn ip is reputable enough for us to sneak some reqs in
[05:29:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to huannengqizhaban> I think for archival purposes, moegirl.icu is really good, and func will resume syncing at some point. For testing purposes, moegirl.uk can be used. As for a full fork, someone [asked about it on bangumi](https://bgm.tv/group/topic/426414) and I replied to it. I can keep running moegirl.uk for at least 3 more years
[05:31:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to blankeclair> Ah that's a really good idea. I think my usual VPN is blocked because it's too well-known (even Google gives a captcha), but less-known ones still have a good chance of sneaking in.
[05:35:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to posix_memalign> i have mullvad :3
[05:35:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Btw, @huannengqizhaban if you're ever active on MGP between 2021 and 2023, I might know you and you might have heard of me.
[05:37:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to blankeclair> got 429 :p
[05:37:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> using mullvad's socks proxy at least
[05:37:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i'll try directly from a wg vpn after this debugging chair
[05:41:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> I would not have foreseen ever getting you interested in breaking the security of a random Chinese wiki, but here we are lol.
[05:41:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> By the way, any interest in taking a look at https://github.com/lihaohong6/ImgTag ? Thought I'd put a shameless self-plug here while you're in the mood for breaking something.
[05:43:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to posix_memalign> i'm into freedom, and not being able to backup a public wiki is not exactly free to me xD
[05:51:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Admirable
[05:51:38] <BlankEclair>	 shoutout to discord sending me a message that causes it to crash
[05:52:44] <BlankEclair>	 had to turn off vencord lol
[06:00:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <huannengqizhaban, replying to blankeclair> Those wikis have been deleted without notice for censorship
[06:00:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to huannengqizhaban> ?
[06:01:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <huannengqizhaban, replying to blankeclair> MGP deleted wikis theming politic and porn
[06:01:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> ah
[06:01:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> bleh
[06:06:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to blankeclair> OH HELL YEAH IT WORKS
[06:06:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> fi-hel-wg-003.relays.mullvad.net to be specific
[06:06:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> au-mel-wg-302.relays.mullvad.net just didn't get anything apparently
[06:06:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> so you'd probably want a timeout of like 5s
[06:41:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [1/4] how to go trending on mastodon:
[06:41:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [2/4] 1. make the dumbest possible shitpost
[06:41:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [3/4] 2. ???
[06:41:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [4/4] 3. PROFIT
[06:41:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1388046510163230730/IMG_7931.png?ex=685f8e8c&is=685e3d0c&hm=9a01bfcc62116954041e64820b7aa9bbb3664e625cbccc37af1c18f02203b7f4&
[06:43:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rose_miller0708> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1388047084468572182/IMG_2314.png?ex=685f8f15&is=685e3d95&hm=5f8e651a4f9f1b37b7a1d67a69fd901b45e4dc80ffe671d1969a11c90519fa02&
[07:03:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to blankeclair> Hmmm. I might try syncing myself sometime too. Since there are multiple possible attacks, losing one of them is hopefully not too bad.
[07:04:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> if needed, i can add your wireguard key to my account :p
[07:38:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Thanks! It's probably not necessary since I have plenty of time to slowly pull source code. Still trying to figure out if there is a way to list all pages when `query=allpages` and `generator=allpages` are both blocked, though. I can always parse the `Special:AllPages` page with an html parser as a fallback, so it's not a terrible situation.
[07:40:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> eh, you can iterate through every revision number
[07:40:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> necessary if you're aiming to get the full rev history anyway
[07:40:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> (that's my goal anyway ^^;)
[08:00:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Ah that's a good idea. I fear that the more powerful exploits will get blocked if I abuse them too much, so I'll probably just go through all the revisions using the normal API and hope that I don't generate enough traffic to be noticeable.
[08:00:26] <BlankEclair>	 ah oki ^_^
[08:00:32] <BlankEclair>	 maybe do POST for all your reqs as well
[08:00:50] <BlankEclair>	 makes it harder to see what exact queries you're doing since it's not in the path that can be easily logged
[08:01:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Got it. Thanks!
[09:07:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to raidarr> [1/3] I added a few more things that I'm aware of (e.g. SomeRandomDeveloper joining tech team). If there is no time to finish, it can probably be merged with next month's issue, though some of the time-sensitive coverage would no longer be relevant. 
[09:07:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to raidarr> [2/3] Re custom formatting. I think the stylesheet can be tweaked to behave differently depending on the page to accomodate emailing. For example, a template checks for `{{PAGENAME}}`. If `email` is in the title, it will use the plain formatting css stylesheet. Otherwise, it'll use the custom format. Suppose `[[A]]` contains the main content, `[[A/email]]` can u
[09:07:37] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/A https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/A/email
[09:07:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to raidarr> [3/3] se `{{:A}}` to include all the content while the template would automatically choose a different stylesheet for emailing.
[09:07:38] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/:Template:A 
[09:10:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Hmmm. I thought wm-bot might ignore code-formatted pages but I got that part wrong. In fact, the bot didn't parse the last thing correctly. The wikitext should lead to a main NS page named "A", not a template.
[18:31:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ohgodpleaseno.> Have you ever heard of EditThis.info?
[19:04:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to ohgodpleaseno.> Think so?
[19:18:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> They've been defunct for a hot minute, haven't they?
[19:19:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah, heard about it couple of years ago as horribly vulnerable and outdated wiki host lol
[21:34:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> [1/2] feels good swapping to miraheze
[21:34:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1388271396093820949/IMG_2407.jpg?ex=68605ffd&is=685f0e7d&hm=dc9c3220a8e164c582ab24b1ce760a4894761df8b0122d4df309d9701e1ee15e&
[21:34:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> :thanks:
[21:39:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to cat.bread> gato
[21:40:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread, replying to pixldev> indeed
[21:40:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> the fandom wiki for the game that i made the miraheze wiki was
[21:40:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> pretty awful
[21:40:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-cat-stare-cute-gif-3082793379085604256
[21:40:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to cat.bread> off
[21:41:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread, replying to pixldev> there was some idiot as an admin who thought this was funn
[21:41:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> https://untitled-boxing-games.fandom.com/wiki/Mcdonalds
[21:41:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> (this style is not in the game that i made the wiki for and is just whatever the admin was thought funny)
[21:42:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> we cant even delete it because he set the thing to be editable by admins only
[21:42:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> (he got globalbanned from fandom)
[21:43:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If the admin is locked on FANDOm and the page is totally unrelated to the main wiki
[21:43:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <asko1> incredibly fitting that it's McDonald's again
[21:43:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> May be able to ask FANDOM remove it
[21:43:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> and i decided "might as well switch over to miraheze and bring the wiki closer to the game's staff/devteams control"
[21:44:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> the fandom wiki is also a pretty big mess otherwise
[21:44:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> no unified format so the whole wiki looks messy
[21:45:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> a bunch of people who recorded their own avatars so they can be shown on the wiki without contributing anything of merit
[21:45:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> contradicting info
[21:49:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cat.bread> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1388275153317924995/IMG_2418.jpg?ex=6860637d&is=685f11fd&hm=3b3508f032ce636c6b28021e979246a76b3a26f044327c1955c67aa77d092649&