[00:41:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob> I'm going to Dallas
[01:00:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to emicraftnoob> Greet JR from me 😂
[02:00:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to blankeclair> Can I see how that Cloudflare Rule is setup please? I can't view Miraheze's Cloudflare Dash currently.
[02:29:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397042824834318467/Screenshot_20250721_212538_Gallery.jpg?ex=68804905&is=687ef785&hm=6bd1ea4032b6c3232dea02a365a29f6c5d8937a9027744b684920177c4df61e8&
[02:39:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <d00mdisc0rd, replying to aeywoo> i recognize this guy…
[03:10:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to emicraftnoob> do not go here
[03:10:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> take this from a citizen, this is the last place ANYONE wants to be rn
[03:11:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theonewhoeatmountain> Am I losing it or did they put a trumphet on the icon
[03:31:12] <BlankEclair>	 https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/21/windows_11_productivity_sink/
[03:31:14] <BlankEclair>	 i love windows.
[03:34:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272> 10
[03:34:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272> Can’t believe miraheze makes it to 10
[03:37:30] <BlankEclair>	 our yearly reminder that 2015 is now 10 years ago :)
[03:45:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob> Miraheze's Ten nah crazy
[04:07:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <puppeht> with $17300 i bet we could throw a pretty kickass party
[04:49:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [1/3] SiivaGunner Wiki forked as well
[04:49:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [2/3] that's a big one
[04:49:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [3/3] https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxYLqc9qMORttJMJLFTVyNXEGE5rBL0wZx?si=nUlaTHKJ5SXw5RdD
[04:49:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397078093998587924/IMG_8112.png?ex=688069de&is=687f185e&hm=25d38fe89164d091154ba4e7e46c2aebca91018649613b0ffc4213ce8caef2c6&
[04:49:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> MediaWiki why
[04:50:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer, replying to groupnebula563_0765> MediaWiki why?
[05:00:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <onlyforuser> Happy bday Miraheze :Partyheze:
[05:01:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to theonewhoeatmountain> The trumpets are to show how excited we are about 10 years of service provided. :EpicFaceMH: :Partyheze:
[05:44:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> send my birthday wishes to MH today :Partyheze:
[05:45:01] <BlankEclair>	 https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/21/replit_saastr_vibe_coding_incident/
[05:45:02] <BlankEclair>	 lmfao
[05:47:48] <RhinosF1>	 BlankEclair: the comments on that article are just perfect
[05:48:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to aeywoo> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397092802013298708/1753163277097.png?ex=68807790&is=687f2610&hm=48df97ce6fffec3bed7d29209439f649dc58cb12324475edd785588c05232a7d&
[05:49:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to blankeclair> Thanks, this exploit works on my wiki too.
[05:49:46] <BlankEclair>	 fun :D
[06:06:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahriboy> Happy birthday Miraheze!
[06:06:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahriboy> :menhera_wave:
[06:07:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahriboy, replying to BlankEclair> Not until :linux: takes the share from Win10 by October
[06:08:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ahriboy> :PaetongtarnWai:
[06:47:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> enjoy the next period of existence miraheze :Partyheze:
[07:33:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer> I love Windows.
[07:45:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> I hate Windows.
[07:47:45] <BlankEclair>	 i love blahaj
[07:48:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> I
[08:04:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> Can't believe we made it to 10 years
[08:05:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> It seems like yesterday that RamNode kept suspending our servers because they oversell capacity.
[08:34:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> Yep, I remember those days
[08:35:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> Tbf RamNode was great for us back in the day
[08:37:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to groupnebula563_0765> I concur completely
[08:40:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Well, I'm stuck in this country with an expired VISA, so I won't be able to leave for a few years unless I'm willing to risk not being able to come back : (
[08:42:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to posix_memalign> 😟  Here's to hoping you dodge the ICE
[08:43:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to groupnebula563_0765> weeeell ....
[08:43:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to rodejong> It'll be fine. The US has a strange rule where VISA expiration is unrelated to status. The VISA is only for entering the country, while status indicates whether someone is legally allowed to continue staying in the country.
[08:44:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> well, from what I've seen ICE brown shirts don't actually care much about details like that
[08:44:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> With Trump you never know
[08:45:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> A lot of students are allowed to stay in the US for 5 years (since they're students), but they only get 1-year VISAs.
[08:45:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to posix_memalign> huh, interesting
[08:46:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> so it's kinda like enforcement at entrance?
[08:46:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to bluemoon0332> Yeah I heard stories about it. Fortunately I don't drive, so I won't get deported for a traffic infraction.
[08:46:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> and status is enforcement while being a resident
[08:47:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to blankeclair> Yep. There's [an article](https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/2016/01/student-visa-vs-student-status-what-difference) which explains it
[08:47:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> > Once you are admitted into the United States, your visa may expire. However, you may remain in the country until the departure date that CBP stamped on your passport or Form I-94 as long as you maintain your status. Maintaining your status means that you perform certain actions and follow rules that help you fulfill your purpose for coming to the United States.
[08:50:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/2] The ridiculous part is that renewing the VISA is not possible within the US. With the current political climate, leaving the US to renew the VISA comes with the risk of not being able to come back (either due to VISA rejections or US customs refusing entry). A lot of students I know (myself included) are basically serving several years of prison term within the US since we can
[08:50:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/2] 't leave the country at will.
[08:51:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> yeah... i feel sorry for those stuck in the US
[08:51:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Someone I know published a paper at a conference, but none of the authors can attend it because they're all international students stuck in the US. They had to ask other students to bring their posters over.
[08:51:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> take very good care of yourself petra
[08:51:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> good luck out there
[08:52:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Thanks. Fortunately I'm the type who loves staying in the house and I don't get homesick, so it's not a huge loss for me.
[08:52:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> homeboy buds :3
[09:07:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster, replying to bluemoon0332> I thought they were called red hats
[09:12:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> [1/2] Good luck @posix_memalign .  When I was Legislative Director for the National Association of Graduate and Professional Students, we spent a whole week trying to lobby for better access for international students, but it was honestly like talking to a brick wall.  And this is in 2008 (I remember Bear Sterns collapsing while I was in DC).  They basically said "we can't do anything wit
[09:12:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> [2/2] hout comprehensive immigration reform" and also "no one can agree on anything on anything on immigration reform" so basically nothing can be done for students because farm workers are coming in from Mexico.
[09:13:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> Somehow, the climate around visas has gotten much, much worse, and I'm sorry, but at least I tried ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[09:19:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> there was a time some years ago when a bipartisan attempt to reform was in play, guess which side sank that one for good
[09:29:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> [1/5] Oh, I know from experience.  That explanation above was from the rational committee chair, Zoe Lofgren.  On the other side, incidentally me and another guy from my uni were from the same hometown, so we visited the office of our local congressman.  We were just starting to give the basics of our pitch to the staffer out front, when the Rep. Gallegly dashes out of his office to confr
[09:29:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> [2/5] ont us, saying, "You're not trying to bring terrorists here, are you?  We don't need any terrorists in this country."
[09:29:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> [3/5] "Uh, no sir, we just want visas for people already in this country."
[09:29:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> [4/5] "But not terrorists."
[09:29:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> [5/5] "No, no one is proposing to give visas to terrorists."
[09:29:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> I was so glad when that guy finally retired.
[09:30:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> the real terrorists are the far-right
[09:30:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397148858429079573/kc2eampjvyfa1.png?ex=6880abc5&is=687f5a45&hm=a694c28652c677b70ef8f8fce8e8b86c9e40e0a25733097d2e3f55f1d23179a7&
[09:31:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> uh did i send it at the wrong time
[09:31:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> nah not really
[09:31:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> nah we need lulz
[09:31:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> ok
[09:32:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397149174859956294/Baldi.mov?ex=6880ac11&is=687f5a91&hm=5f0b4d4f7fd8b4f95f8af33d9ccd89fae3eeccee8390047297d37ad10c5b18ac&
[09:32:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to .labster> Yeah, it's really unfortunate that many people with the greatest willingness for immigration reform happen to hold no voting power. Once they are eventually able to vote, immigration reform would become a secondary goal. Still, it's great that many are trying or have tried to make things better even though these reforms don't benefit them directly.
[09:32:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> What is visa about
[09:33:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Or what does It even mean
[09:33:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to bartomelow> A permit to enter and leave a country, normally issued by the authorities of the country to be visited.
[09:34:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> H
[09:35:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to posix_memalign> reminds me of the marriage equality postal survey
[09:37:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> Honestly it's a problem in most public policy.  The people who are most active have a direct interest, often monetary.  Sometimes I think we should use sortition more in republics, since a random sample of people would choose a wiser course.
[09:38:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [1/2] i think I'm too young to understand what you guys are talking about
[09:38:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [2/2] im not a unc yet*,,,,,,,,
[09:38:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> meat and transphobia
[09:38:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> https://sentientmedia.org/anti-trans-campaigns-keep-returning-to-the-politics-of-meat/
[09:38:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to bartomelow> unc?
[09:39:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to blankeclair> Maybe
[09:39:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> what's unc...
[09:39:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397151078184783882/image.webp?ex=6880add6&is=687f5c56&hm=1dc2a798aac5980a1f09256cd15c286c41814b5ddef1fa829cd7a1054bef39f7&
[09:39:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i don't think you're talking about \\?\Windows
[09:40:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster, replying to bartomelow> Don't worry too much about not understanding things right away.  Seminar (other people present their research) was my favorite class in college, even if I only understood oh, 20% of what they were talking about.  Just hearing the words opens your mind to possibilities.
[09:40:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to .labster> Even modest goals such as changing FPTP or abolishing the electoral college would be very good progress, though they don't seem to be happening anytime soon.
[09:42:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to blankeclair> The puppet
[09:42:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i'm going to assume that that's a reference that i don't know ^^;
[09:43:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> The puppet
[09:46:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> puppet agent -tv
[09:48:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob, replying to elitericefarmer> I love Linux and Mac
[09:48:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i love estrogen
[11:08:48] <BlankEclair>	 https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/07/22/carla-antonelli-defies-proposed-uk-bathroom-ban/
[11:08:50] <BlankEclair>	 :3
[11:32:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man, replying to bartomelow> [1/2] theres always worse timing
[11:32:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man, replying to bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397179568158412882/Screenshot_2025-05-15_155025.png?ex=6880c85f&is=687f76df&hm=72d9dd8c2daf56b91e1266dcf62270914ff1a50d93b511888af3f412f0070613&
[12:02:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to tango_man> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397187167138353255/1753185778014.png?ex=6880cf73&is=687f7df3&hm=430db968945a9c267d289da735cafee02dbb421c556347f10c424c38d5529747&
[12:07:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> LMFAO
[12:08:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> https://tenor.com/view/omori-fish-omori-aubrey-omori-afraid-omori-ami-gif-20409457
[12:10:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> [1/3] Thank you Cloudflare.
[12:10:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397189019141673060/image.png?ex=6880d12c&is=687f7fac&hm=8f1a213284c7b41fce17e7947708cde30b548ef727bf7e0e9880fd74ad9c8547&
[12:10:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397189019611304098/image.png?ex=6880d12c&is=687f7fac&hm=3e6c4c090786fef9adbc18dfbab46324d69bd29afd009ed1666679f5e71be7b9&
[12:14:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to blankeclair> I'm assuming after 'unsafe-inline' it's the URL to cgi-bin or just the host domain?
[12:14:34] <BlankEclair>	 it's our standard CSP shebang iirc
[12:15:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to BlankEclair> Ah, I use `$wgCSPHeader` for my wiki, not sure how I would set this up then.
[12:16:08] <BlankEclair>	 you can bypass csp via a non-mediawiki php file then
[12:16:16] <BlankEclair>	 non-mediawiki, non-php*
[12:16:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> huh?
[12:20:05] <BlankEclair>	 are you setting it in the reverse proxy?
[12:21:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to BlankEclair> My CSP? I use Apache, so no.
[12:21:33] <BlankEclair>	 you could, say, load /w/skins/Vector/skin.json in an iframe
[12:21:39] <BlankEclair>	 and use that iframe to conduct shenanigans
[12:22:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> What should I do then?
[12:22:31] <BlankEclair>	 put it in apache :p
[12:24:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Then why does MediaWiki even provide it as an option?
[12:41:58] <BlankEclair>	 no idea tbh
[12:43:53] <BlankEclair>	 ooh, nonces are a nice feature
[13:25:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> [1/2] im sure these user defined tags are completely accurate and reflect well on the game's content
[13:25:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1397207967899717848/image_2025-07-22_222455214.png?ex=6880e2d2&is=687f9152&hm=72cc24b149a2727c37073aec0a2c2c71517de229c035aeb8d2d4356eea7b40f1&
[13:26:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> ok i actually checked the tags
[13:26:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> its not real
[13:26:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> it so joever
[13:27:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> do you think getting 7300 people to apply these tags will do it
[13:42:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to aeywoo> MediaWiki devs are stoopid sometimes
[14:39:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart, replying to blankeclair> Oh my god ITS SO CUTE
[22:40:05] <BlankEclair>	 my eeping habits before E: 00:00
[22:40:15] <BlankEclair>	 my eeping habits after E: 22:00-23:00
[22:42:49] <BlankEclair>	 i'm not even on prog lol
[22:45:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> eepiest girlie
[22:48:33] <BlankEclair>	 frfr
[23:42:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to BlankEclair> E actually stands for “eepy”
[23:42:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> little known fact
[23:42:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> eepstrogen