[17:07:35] https://tenor.com/view/night-in-the-woods-mae-nitw-absolutely-gobsmacking-gif-25092392 [17:07:44] mae counts as a cat right [17:15:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1413798900120424570/1413830112755060776/cabbit-cat.gif [17:16:44] [1/2] i love bats <3 [17:16:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1420096560020197417/proxy-image.png?ex=68d4277c&is=68d2d5fc&hm=61c5d2787c8aa198aafe4c64d58cdd373be82b121d3ed0b2c78c90df6c634139& [18:02:25] bats? [18:02:39] bunny + cat = bat [18:02:43] their called cabbits [18:02:51] bat is already a animal' [18:27:24] That’s a Digimon [18:28:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1420114528787759204/IMG_8382.jpg?ex=68d43838&is=68d2e6b8&hm=20801ea48d3e5280d4a370181d4cd754335048d85d06cd5ba67d1310f5f5cfb9& [19:39:27] cat is integral to linux systsms [19:39:52] Lmao [19:40:14] So is rm -rf * / [19:41:00] Lol [19:41:29] blahaj is integral to trans girls [19:41:32] hmm [19:41:39] adding blahaj to windows xp integral edition [19:43:57] Also femboys [19:44:57] god i fucking love femboys [19:51:21] Same [20:06:15] [1/2] this channel has two sides: [20:06:16] [2/2] deep political discussions [20:06:43] and :3 [20:09:30] [1/2] today, i will teach you how to make estradiol gel at home [20:09:30] [2/2] 1. you need estradiol powder; if you don't have any, then you can see my tutorial on- [20:13:13] today I will teach you how to empty your friend's bank accout for unlimited estrogen for you and all your friends [20:13:55] dw, therapy is more expensive [20:18:20] No fraud [20:18:52] is it fraud if they willingly do it under absolutely no pressure or false pretenses [20:19:17] No [20:20:46] @pskyechology fraud requires you to make a gain or loss by either saying something that's misleading or omitting something material [20:21:46] Section 1-5, Fraud Act 2006 [21:35:19] i wonder if i can <@240240109591592960> [21:35:27] i can, cool [21:38:31] what the fuck is a euro [21:40:25] idk something that makes the brits seethe [21:55:25] @rhinosf1 A discord isn't the best place for hormone information ... Perhaps you can clarify if it's within the rules here? [21:55:57] Rhinos isn't a moderator here btw [21:56:17] Oh.. My mistakes.. [21:57:18] I don't think talking about hormones is against the rules, but ghost pinging certainly is [21:57:37] Noted, [21:58:14] Message was removed as it wasn't relevant anymore. [21:58:15] (To clarify, I'm not a mod either, but that's what #info-and-rules states) [21:58:36] Bye [21:59:20] did they really just think they messed up so badly they had to leave [21:59:22] i can infodump about the pharmacokinetics of estradiol :3 [21:59:29] i mean, this is offtopic after all [21:59:43] talking about diy is more grey, but i _think_ legal [21:59:59] the only thing truly illegal is distribution, or obtaining T [22:00:53] (but honestly, the gritty details about obtaining diy hrt should be off a public channel tbh) [22:01:09] well, no way of knowing now. But I do think that that interaction we had with them can be intimidating, so maybe? [22:02:34] intimidated by girl chemicals [22:03:43] btw I just looked up vibe coding since someone posted about that vibe coding SDK or whatever cloudflare posted on Twitter, so that's just a fancy name for dumping code generated by ChatGPT in a repository? [22:03:53] only the farage glazers [22:04:10] yep [22:04:31] wait until you hear about the fact that some people have allowed such tools to delete their production databases without warning [22:04:32] it's about not actually paying attention to anything and letting the ai do it for you [22:04:57] works for small projects but put it on the web and you're getting hacked [22:05:42] Hello again.. Re- read the rules.. Apologies [22:06:03] no worries [22:06:21] I have to admit I have thought about opening a website or something, and just let ChatGPT directly manage it, like I give it direct shell access to the server and just let it do whatever, without me as an intermediary. [22:06:31] Miraheze but ChatGPT is the only sysadmin [22:06:32] I would advised against that [22:06:59] Chat GPT is not infalible [22:07:16] I know, I'm just joking here [22:07:25] I'd never do that for a real project [22:07:30] Do we actually have a policy about medical infromation here? [22:07:57] (Some other discord , disallow medical/pharma info) [22:08:22] we don't have anything other than what Discord already requires in that front, if anything [22:08:41] besides legal issues, not really [22:08:44] I'll drop the topic then.. [22:08:58] although some "AI web3 blockchain powered crypto startup" is probably doing that unironically no doubt [22:09:36] I take the view that WIki sites should avoid AI generated content outside of very limiited contexts.. [22:09:47] Hi I am a mod (can’t use Discord atm) but as long as things are legal and SFW it is within the rules as long as its confined to off topic (in this case) [22:10:12] how did you get limited on disc lol [22:10:25] I was explaining to my friend how phising works [22:10:29] Discord AI didn’t like that [22:10:38] Zippix: Thanks. [22:10:45] case in point why AI is ass [22:10:47] bruh [22:10:48] So I’m limited until the 30th [22:10:59] srsly? [22:11:03] Yep [22:11:51] Most platforms don't like people giving technical infromation that could be used for purposes which could support unauthorised access to infromations.. [22:12:07] It's a standard policy term [22:12:11] phising ain't really that technical or sophisticated [22:12:56] All I said was a site such as gave an example to a known example cybersecurity site can be used to mimic a known website that then uploads the info submitted to a server for viewing later [22:13:22] example was too real [22:13:44] The example i guess was in their filters to trigger a ToU violation [22:13:50] And T&S won’t allow me to appeal [22:15:13] At least you did not make a typo when trying to say something wasn't allowed ... 😊 [22:15:33] speaking of AI being ass, I wonder how our dear AI wiki reviewer is doing [22:15:56] Its working [22:16:06] I saw on issue-tracker that Agent is deploying Ollama and Open WebUI, looks like you guys are going to be running your own AI now [22:16:09] May have to dock its pay though [22:16:24] Yes we switch to in house AI tomorrow is the plan [22:16:33] yay... [22:16:47] pre-training AI hallucinated us new board members [22:16:53] well, at least it's better than ChatGPT I guess? [22:17:11] AI for revewing wiki content, or for screening Discord comments? [22:17:12] now that I care much about that nowadays, I have long given up on pushing that on Miraheze [22:17:23] for reviewing wiki requests [22:17:34] Ugh I hate I cant easily reply from IRC [22:17:36] I thought you still needed a human in the loop? [22:17:47] not in most cases nowadays [22:17:57] only if it gets declined by the AI in the first pass [22:18:00] ^ [22:18:01] And given changes in the UK, I can't request my own wikis anymore 🙁 [22:18:10] Why not? [22:18:10] if the AI approves at first no human ever reviews it before approval [22:18:38] The UK decided to change the rules on what risk assesesments are needed on mass contributions sites.. [22:19:00] Huhhh [22:19:03] feel like NA's tl;dr is gonna be that the liability is not gonna be on you [22:19:07] We do some amount of sanity checking if the approvals [22:19:17] ah damn hadn't made it that far yet [22:19:40] i’m tempted to join on my discord alt I can’t do this irc thing im out of practice 😂 [22:19:52] But it's def not 100% of requests approved by AI [22:20:29] For a single wiki holder it's not feasible to do the level of risk assesment that the UK now considers desirable. [22:20:31] I mean... you could just ignore the law [22:20:42] i only remember using irc to do wikipedia cvt [22:20:49] And get a platform blocked? Not likely [22:20:58] and using to to talk in the discord when my vpn died while i was in china [22:21:39] You can make your own risk assessment, but our stance is that since we removed private messaging features + fall under thresholds as they measure it, we do not fall into the highly regulated category [22:21:39] you won't be able to guess who runs your wiki (it's not you) [22:22:31] If you request a wiki, you are technicaly the responsible party [22:22:57] (even if you are not the 'platform' operator, as I read it.) [22:23:01] As such, we aren't obligated to do the age verification/other OSA asks (beyond what a normal responsible provider must do [22:23:24] hi [22:23:32] This is however a personal reading.. [22:24:02] is this the famed zppix alt [22:24:05] sorry, legally distinct zppix person [22:24:12] I plead the fifth [22:24:17] As you prefer/are comfortable. You aren't required to create a wiki. [22:24:19] understandable [22:24:39] People create alts? [22:24:43] for now, that is, until Ofcom comes knocking, if they do [22:24:49] I thought the rules didn't let you do that... [22:24:49] for multitudes of reasons, yes [22:25:17] When you get a bs tou vio you do [22:25:46] About a decade ago, the WMF community told me not to create alts , as it's considered 'block/ban' evasion. [22:25:58] Alts aren't inherently a problem, abuse of alts to bypass restrictions or socially engineer are a problem [22:26:10] I wouldnt if they wouldnt automatically close my appeal 3 minutes after submission [22:26:16] in this case the MH community does not consider idk543 a block/ban evader [22:26:51] With an automated message saying “to see the length of your suspension go here” [22:26:55] Like thats what I want [22:26:57] Creating an alt on our service to bypass an on wiki block would not be permitted. [22:26:58] I wanna APPEAL [22:27:12] [1/2] eh i personally wouldn't worry about it. If you're creating the site it's probably your responsibility, but creating a wiki is only requesting that the site owners do something [22:27:12] [2/2] Like e.g. Fandom never makes you fill out a full risk assessment, and they're much bigger [22:27:23] Zppix, you're muddying the waters with your personal sitch. 🤣 [22:27:35] What does that mean [22:28:03] well technically that's what zppix... is doing. then again breaking the rules is fun [22:28:04] Nothing. I see and say nothing. 🤫 [22:28:04] the WMF community also seemed to say that 'ban means ban' and that appeals had to be very well founded.. [22:28:16] Idk543 is definitely not me *Wink wink* nudge nudge [22:28:53] This is also true of us, though there's also the distinction of being banned from one wiki vs banned from the service [22:28:55] yeah zppix and idk543 are both typing at the same time they couldn't possibly be the same person [22:28:55] Idk543 is Zippix I am Zppix :P [22:29:15] don't worry he'll get banned for daring to utter the number three [22:29:23] 3 [22:29:26] you see they take child safety VERY seriously [22:29:56] you would think for someone who pays 20+ a month to Discord they’d let me appeal [22:30:00] so seriously that they have their AI ban you for using numbers whilst keeping numerous grooming servers up [22:30:20] being a paying customer don't mean shit these days [22:30:32] you need to be actually influential [22:31:19] susing the desktop web client on monile is buggy [22:31:45] At least pltforms now take certain issues with the seriousnesses they need, whereas previously they hadn''t. When single campagin groups can cut your ability to be finanically viable, platforms can't exercise discretion. [22:32:35] yeah true, banning someone for no reason is 100x better than allowing people to spread cp [22:32:40] This was pianfully discovered by certain gaming platforms 🙁 [22:33:24] @thewwrnerdguy I would advise using the proper terms, not the media ones. [22:33:26] Funny thing is I can still react to messages from @zppix [22:33:30] curtailing of free speech, yay [22:34:23] Free speech, comes with responsibilities as well as rights.. [22:34:49] I don't really want to use the proper term that "cp" refers to [22:34:58] cache proxy [22:35:14] club penguin [22:35:20] checkpoint [22:35:25] CSAM is the proper term (but lets move to brighter topics) [22:35:48] Moving on .. Are there any wiki for open source screenplays? [22:35:59] Open source screenplays? [22:36:01] yeah probably a better acronym to use [22:36:28] Hold on [22:36:41] You cant just say open source screenplays and not give me an example [22:36:56] (On Screnplays) As in scripts for films, TV and plays that you don't have to spend a fortune on licensing for? [22:37:14] Most fan fiction can never be open source. [22:37:48] hmm so like screenplays with cc licensing [22:37:54] Exactly [22:38:01] Hmmm [22:38:18] And not SCP.. (which aren't screenplays but a distinct format) [22:38:46] Yes Screenplays with CC licensing... [22:39:04] For entire shared universe, a Wiki would be interesting.. [22:39:21] Hmmm [22:39:25] Not only could you have screenplays, but an entire universer wiki [22:39:27] 😉 [22:39:31] I cant think of any [22:39:40] Kind of like Wiki's exist for actual franchise 😉 [22:40:11] I want food but i dont wanna cook or order anything [22:40:17] I mean on the other Wikifarm , there's an entire wiki for InspectorSpacetime ... [22:40:41] Even though it only existed as a segemnt in a sitcom 😮 🙂 🤣 [22:41:42] _also wonders what would happen if you had an MMPORG written as a Wiki site_ [22:42:26] with a mix of in universe style tomes written on the wiki site concerned 😉 [22:45:46] Special:RequestWiki [22:45:48] ;) [22:46:21] Dw we promise not to tell the gov it was all your idea [22:48:22] [1/2] 12:47am and I have to do this 😭 [22:48:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1420180017698177084/RSvw7Af.png?ex=68d47535&is=68d323b5&hm=fc26fde02bfe42d3741d095f9ba67c219290d3cbed6e0db87224e47ba03cba69& [22:48:28] bs [22:52:24] What the hell is that [22:54:57] circuits 😭 [23:14:24] Uhhhh [23:14:31] Hmm [23:16:44] yeah [23:16:54] I'm done with this bs now [23:16:59] goodnight y'all [23:19:00] I think I'm gonna send a random meme from my gallery every time before heading to bed [23:19:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1420187827899207741/Screenshot_20250904_222003_Instagram.jpg?ex=68d47c7b&is=68d32afb&hm=943a44800d19b9c615f14d8ce85367922316be9a88ed04975b70cf1279394dd1& [23:25:29] There’s a few wikis dedicated to the public domain. That’s sort of close? [23:29:02] @crazylosthismind whats up