[00:36:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/3] Had to publish a half-finished article because the event ended.
[00:36:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_Furusawa
[00:36:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [3/3] I hope it passes new page patrol and won't get an AFD lol.
[00:38:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to posix_memalign> If I was still a NPP I would pass it
[00:39:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Btw @serverlessharej I talked to Ariel. She has not heard of Miraheze unfortunately but does say she will ask you about it, though she might just forget about our 2-minute conversation.
[00:41:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to zppix> I have gotten an AFD for a page not meeting WP:PROF before, so we'll see how this goes.
[00:42:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> I do think I have 3 reliable sources, though some of them are a bit sketchy.
[00:43:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to posix_memalign> Lmk, I’ll come out of enwiki retirement to vote keep KEKW
[00:57:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to zppix> Thanks! Ariel will try to keep it too as the product of an edit-a-thon, so now we have 2 senior editors behind this article lol.
[00:58:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to posix_memalign> One thing that bugged me is that we didnt have exceptions for edit a thon products
[00:59:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Like as long as the article wasnt total garbage keep it if its edit a thon related
[01:02:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to zppix> [1/2] People are advised to create articles in draft NS nowadays, so it's less of an issue. 
[01:02:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to zppix> [2/2] I already knew my way around wikipedia, so I just created it in main NS.
[01:03:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to posix_memalign> See main ns is what I’m used to,  I feel alot of the enwiki policy chances recently have been kinda just because we can with no real purpose
[01:04:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Like I cant take a wikibreak without losing half my rights onwiki anymore because of dumb policy changed
[01:05:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Kinda why I stopped with enwiki largely
[01:07:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Ah yeah I've seen demotions due to inactivity a lot
[02:36:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heckerzard_42430> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1422774207246503996/image.png?ex=68dde53c&is=68dc93bc&hm=ca9b58c95b483511e5326f9de173b3ed148d5ea83610177532584b45837fb271&
[02:43:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1422775825857642668/image.png?ex=68dde6be&is=68dc953e&hm=688aa011f917bff632ef4910bdc02484647763886697ab8fd5e19861dba1ef46&
[03:10:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> TRILLION!?
[04:51:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <randomizer.jpeg, replying to amelialoveheart> that's a lotta webpages
[05:13:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> nothing like a full spring onto the bus to wake you up
[05:17:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> nvm still falling into a coma in this class
[06:27:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/developers-drop-vercel-call-boycott-after-ceo-posts-selfie-netanyahu
[06:27:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> good god
[08:55:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind, replying to blankeclair> almost all of those adhd pills are ass
[08:58:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> most of them almost completely suppress your appetite and will have you feel like shit after like 6 hours. A friend of mine once had to vomit because she swallowed the pill a bit too fast and ran for a bit
[08:59:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> I personally had to switch meds like 4 times lol
[09:00:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> I would avoid making statements about medicine based purely on anecdotal evidence - if they didn't work they wouldn't have been approved for use in the first place.
[09:00:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind, replying to sakurababochka> they do work, but habe terrible side effects
[09:00:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> thats what im saying
[09:01:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> The severity and incidence of side effects depends on the person, so it's normally a matter of finding the medicine which doesn't have many for you.
[09:01:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> mhm
[09:02:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> That doesn't necessarily make the medicine bad, just that you got unlucky with the ones you started with.
[09:02:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Its not a good idea to use Discord for medical advice 🙂
[09:02:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka> This too, yes. Qualified professionals are always better.
[09:08:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> I've tried two types of pills and they both just made me lock in
[09:16:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> oh?
[09:21:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to blankeclair> both courtesy of my friend with an actual diagnosis
[09:23:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> yippee :3
[09:23:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> what are the types?
[09:23:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> wrt trans care, debatable
[09:23:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> actually
[09:23:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> depends on def of qualified
[09:24:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> qualified trans care told me to get bent
[09:26:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to blankeclair> Still better than random people on the internet.
[09:30:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> speaking of trans care, the US government shut down, the republicans want to pass alongside the debt ceiling increase a de-facto ban on trans healthcare due to wanting to remove federal funding for hospitals that offer _any_ kind of trans healthcare
[09:31:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> so far democrats have refused to give in, but if Schumer ends up giving in trans people in the US may legit end up having no choice other than randoms on the internet
[09:32:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> poor claire
[09:32:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to pskyechology> ?
[09:33:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to blankeclair> you are the randoms on the internet
[09:33:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> claire is australian I believe, question mark?
[09:33:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> oh, you mean it that way
[09:33:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> ah lol
[09:33:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> somerandomdeveloper, any 2c here?
[09:41:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to bluemoon0332> i know someone who is moving states, and she's considering diy since 1) her current endo is not licensed in her destination state, 2) medicaid for trans healthcare was/is under attack, and 3) the only endos she could find were like two hours away or smth like that
[09:50:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind, replying to pskyechology> Lucky
[09:50:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to blankeclair> idk the other one but one was elvanse
[09:55:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to pskyechology> The point was that we all are. I might or might not be medically qualified, nobody knows, and I wouldn't recommend taking my word for it. And the same is true of anyone else.
[09:56:58] <BlankEclair>	 i'm writing a list, but i'm getting my references lol
[10:06:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awesomegamer101> It's Spooky Month!
[10:06:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awesomegamer101> https://tenor.com/view/spooky-month-spooky-halloween-gif-18637322
[10:06:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awesomegamer101> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5OCYWjVuWM
[10:15:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <onlyforuser> Oop we just lost our role icon again
[10:18:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> [1/10] <https://old.reddit.com/r/transwiki/wiki/hrt/australia/vic#wiki_monash_gender_clinic>:
[10:18:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> [2/10] > "I'm 18, mtf and very confused about the medication that I've been prescribed."
[10:18:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> [3/10] > "birth control pills were the main hrt prescribed for mtf in Australia because that's what Monash did and they were the biggest gender clinic in Australia, they use microgynon 50 to be exact." *
[10:18:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> [4/10] > "they also weren't checking my blood tests nearly as often as they should have been, so for a period of around 6 months my HRT dose was especially bad that it was causing health complications [...] It took me 6 months to convince them to put me on a t blocker. And a couple of times they forgot to refill my prescriptions and didnt respond when I tried
[10:18:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> [5/10]  to contact them about it. So a couple of times I didnt have any HRT left for a week or two"
[10:18:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> [6/10] \* Synthetic estrogen carry a higher risk of blood clots:
[10:18:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> [7/10] * <https://transcare.ucsf.edu/guidelines/feminizing-hormone-therapy>: "Ethinyl estradiol is a synthetic estrogen used in contraceptive preparations and is associated with an increased thrombotic risk"
[10:18:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> [8/10] * <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminizing_hormone_therapy>: "The risk of VTE [venous thromboembolism] is higher with oral non-bioidentical estrogens such as ethinylestradiol and conjugated estrogens than with parenteral formulations of estradiol such as injectable, transdermal, implantable, and intranasal"
[10:18:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> [9/10] * <https://stainedglasswoman.substack.com/p/what-to-expect-when-youre-injecting>: "Modern estradiol does not carry this risk [blood clots] to a significant degree beyond the first year of use, and carries it most significantly in its oral form"
[10:18:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to sakurababochka> [10/10] * <https://transfemscience.org/articles/estrogens-blood-clots/>: "Non-bioidentical estrogens like ethinylestradiol [...] increase blood clot risk more readily than bioidentical estradiol"
[10:18:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [1/10] <https://www.tillystranstuesdays.com/2024/08/13/anecdotal-trans-healthcare/>:
[10:18:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [2/10] > So many people, SO MANY PEOPLE, told me they learned EVERYTHING about their transition related healthcare from other trans people or their own research.
[10:18:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [3/10] > E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G
[10:18:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [4/10] (I'm not gonna go quote a whole chunk of the blog post, but it expands more on it)
[10:18:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [5/10] ----
[10:18:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [6/10] My own GP said that taking estradiol pills sublingually is the same as swallowing them, but sublingual E2 actually has higher bioavailability and peak blood test levels than oral E2, at the cost of a shorter half-life.
[10:18:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [7/10] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacokinetics_of_estradiol>:
[10:18:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [8/10] > Bioavailability (in infobox): Oral: 5% (0.1–12%), SL: 10% (in marmosets)
[10:18:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [9/10] > "As a result, sublingual estradiol has been found to result in estradiol levels and a ratio of estradiol to estrone that are substantially higher than oral estradiol"
[10:18:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [10/10] > Elimination half-life (in infobox): Oral: 13–20 hours, Sublingual: 8–18 hours
[10:30:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> you should see injections
[10:31:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> yeah, implants and injections are the easiest way to get high E2 levels (and thus, estrogen monotherapy)
[10:50:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heckerzard_42430> [1/2] Sekret teknik
[10:50:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <heckerzard_42430> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1422898342018678875/image.png?ex=68de58d8&is=68dd0758&hm=873609c69f000f930e9e220d6694f484e8574958ec6b123f5c3486331dce1241&
[11:46:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to awesomegamer101> spoopy....
[11:47:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to pskyechology> oh wait thats an amphetamine
[11:47:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> no wonder you locked tf in
[11:48:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> literally the same thing a vyvanse
[11:48:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to tangoer_man> meth /j
[11:48:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> i mean...
[11:49:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> meth is an amphetamine
[11:49:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> a very strong one
[12:43:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to blankeclair> I am the only random on the internet
[12:43:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> everyone else is a fraud
[13:30:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> holy shit i am hungry as fuck
[13:31:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> and i cant eat anything
[13:31:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> https://tenor.com/view/mae-mae-borowski-cat-depression-depressing-gif-9658965904845319280
[13:35:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> it isnt even secon period yet
[14:04:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to abaddriverlol> Or an NPC
[14:52:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <squidenial> i love miraheze
[14:52:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <squidenial, replying to abaddriverlol> like... identity fraud... from roblox...
[15:04:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to squidenial> https://tenor.com/view/god-bless-miraheze-god-bless-miraheze-fandom-wiki-gif-14903733252958843574
[15:13:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <squidenial> [1/3] does wikipedia use JS to add this donate button?
[15:13:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <squidenial> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1422964603221971056/Screenshot_20251001-121210.png?ex=68de968e&is=68dd450e&hm=ea518c8945c4e48f1eca28e09a0c36b6ff978ea4ee252e9e89719b216326ac43&
[15:13:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <squidenial> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1422964603620560896/Screenshot_20251001-121301.png?ex=68de968e&is=68dd450e&hm=6744e54b00512252db05b856f10cdd6d018a5c48241765a2253dafe9a5f5eebf&
[15:20:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> Mobile? Unlikely cuz the performance will be pretty bad
[15:30:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <squidenial> should i enable $wgVectorResponsive?
[15:32:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> im bored so
[15:32:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [1/7] # keyboard
[15:32:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [2/7] ### ate the numpad,,; srry
[15:32:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [3/7] `  `     ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `   ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `   ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `    ` ` ` ` ` ` 
[15:32:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [4/7] `  ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `   `   ` ` ` ` ` `
[15:32:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [5/7] `   ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `  `   ` ` ` ` ` ` 
[15:32:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [6/7] `  ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` ` `      `       ` ` 
[15:32:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [7/7] `  ` `  ` `  ` `                `  `  ` `  ` `  ` ` ` ` ` ` `
[15:51:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to whentheh_> how could you
[15:51:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> so...
[15:51:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> evil!!!!!!!!!!
[17:01:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091, replying to squidenial> Depends, if you want to cut corner without having to use 2 skins, maybe
[19:59:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind, replying to squidenial> I'm pretty sure thats something in LocalSettings.php
[19:59:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crazylosthismind> I've added similar stuff before
[21:06:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> my blood test is now
[21:06:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> finished
[21:06:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> my hunger i have now BANISHED via rosie's burgers
[21:32:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> yippee :3
[21:32:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> hope the results goes well
[22:09:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673
[22:18:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to tali64> wow
[22:18:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> okay fine then let's just buy them