[00:42:43] [1/4] scp sl post game summary: [00:42:44] [2/4] let out the girliest scream of my life [00:42:44] [3/4] escaped as class d crazy fast and nuked (game lasted five minutes) [00:42:44] [4/4] zombie horde [00:42:49] this game is not good for my throat [00:57:37] Would you say an navbox with 1000+ entries is a wise idea? [02:37:43] it would be amazing [02:39:02] I’m just trying to figure out how to handle the navboxes for Equestripedia. There are over two thousand named characters at this point. [02:39:58] are there any like [02:40:09] actually [02:40:13] try subpages [08:26:59] The left side is reserved for the sidebar [08:27:22] Where there are the menu, explore, and recently viewed pages [08:28:23] Either way, I personally keep a frontend that is basically hydrarevived but with a few personal changes here and there [08:29:05] And with that skin, Fandom wikis feel way more like "real" wikis in a way, as in proper, vector-like wikis [09:05:27] Fandom wiki is just bloat and ads. [09:06:04] yup, it sucks it had to be this way [09:10:24] [1/2] e.g. here's what I see [09:10:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1426134763122720850/image.png?ex=68ea1eff&is=68e8cd7f&hm=f8af7893b2d0f483d078c69f524eef3fcfef6f963e8477789e30d9e86012e37f& [09:11:30] [1/2] versus here's what your poor average logged out viewer sees when loading the same page [09:11:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1426135041775239209/image.png?ex=68ea1f42&is=68e8cdc2&hm=6f0737ac56cd2f570827dec4bcd3ad4256cef58879ed9b283f9eb066e5b7380e& [09:12:15] wait [09:12:31] different skin? [09:12:58] nah, it's fandomdesktop but with changes that make it feel like Hydra [09:13:04] https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/HydraRevived [09:13:06] ah [09:13:15] neat [09:13:18] and I personally made a few changes here and there for myself [09:13:23] how they even allowed on dev tho [09:13:25] like the fonts [09:13:47] it is allowed to have scripts that can break fandom's customization policy [09:14:01] it is not allowed to have them site-wide [09:14:17] bro i got 403 [09:14:36] is this because of vpn again lmao [09:14:39] Every day I cope and seethe that the Tarkov community refuses to get a new wiki. [09:14:52] probably [09:15:07] I think Fandom started to block common VPN IPs [09:15:22] Yeah. [09:15:23] same [09:15:30] what an amazing solution against vandals lol [09:15:31] I think one of the admins is a Fandom star [09:15:33] You play Tarkov too? [09:15:41] not at all [09:15:45] Oh. [09:15:54] but I'm surprised that they're still on fandom, given how massive and popular it is [09:16:02] Yeah... [09:16:14] We deserve our own wiki. Not this fandom whack. [09:16:17] but I guess cuz there's a Fandom star admin too [09:16:44] though I don't think they're necessarily holding this opinion of refusing to move away from Fandom alone [09:16:46] but idk [09:16:58] genshin didn't move out either and it is an even bigger wiki [09:17:00] i can open other wikis :ThinkerMH: [09:17:00] I mean. They're Russians. [09:17:03] Russians are weird. [09:17:15] >I studied in Russia. [09:17:34] most of the established russian-language wikis are still on fandom [09:17:43] I think mc and terraria are the exception here [09:18:00] miraheze is virtually unknown in ru net, and now unreachable on top of that [09:18:15] I think the russian wikis of vampire survivors, hollow knight, dead cells, etc. are still all on fandom [09:18:49] but I know all of these games have their english-language wikis on wiki.gg, weird gloop, or outside of fandom [09:19:29] russian rain world wiki did move out tho iirc [09:20:19] doesn't mira rain world use translation ext? [09:20:30] yes [09:20:42] i wish there was a monaco revived [09:20:54] agreed [09:21:11] but I'm not old enough to have experienced Wikia during the Monaco skin [09:21:17] but it did look cool tho ngl [09:22:26] https://the-cosmic-wheel-sisterhood.fandom.com/wiki/Fortuna [09:22:35] can you access this? [09:22:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1426137867926765661/images.jpg?ex=68ea21e4&is=68e8d064&hm=9051830e2bdf5654210b6a0c35eb5023c311ea44c8c3e4355408f091aef55ad1& [09:23:36] yes [09:23:40] ok good [09:25:11] meow [09:25:17] make this ur pfp [09:27:08] just saw news that roskomsvoboda is officially done, wellp [13:22:57] RIP [13:30:49] https://bsky.app/profile/rainverse.wiki/post/3m2trkzdahc25 [15:03:22] no .. [16:51:23] I made it my profile picture. Don't I look fabulous? [17:46:21] [[SR/RC]] [17:46:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/RC [17:46:22] [18:23:10] Ofc you do [18:23:31] Yay! :D [18:29:32] i can't lie, i never joined fandom in its oasis/monaco/monobook era [18:29:52] although i did use the website for information (never liked it) [18:30:31] and i still remain my opinion that the [fandomdesktop](https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:FandomDesktop) updated was useless [18:33:47] I joined just a bit before the United Community Platform update came out, and it was a whole different ballfield. I saw various people complain about it. I, too, did as well. [18:35:34] i really want to know what was the reason to remove those skins [18:36:39] The reason was that, from my memory of a goldfish (gold basket?), was generally due to maintenance or it was due to costs. Yet, I personally don't think so, though. [18:36:53] how many employees do they have [18:37:27] I'm not even sure on that. [18:37:43] not gonna lie wicker, seeing you using the uhh... [18:37:52] that skin?? on your wiki is pretty interesting [18:38:57] i have never seen any wiki use that skin [18:39:01] very unique choice [18:40:24] Yeah, I'm using the Refreshed skin on my home wiki, since I noticed that Brickimedia uses it, so why don't I use it? I saw that it had a lot of customization potential via CSS, so I took that and went overboard on it after a lot of digging via my browser's DevTools. No other wiki other than Brickimedia uses it, so I took it for myself. [18:40:51] there are many underrated skins in miraheze [18:41:37] There is, and it's sad there's not really used. I'm looking at you, Pivot! [18:41:41] personally, i like [Mirage](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Mirage) [18:42:00] woah i just saw that skin [18:42:03] it looks.. nice? [18:42:23] i have mixed opinions on it :/ [18:43:00] It looks okay to me, so does Mirage. Mirage looks neat, though! Pivot? Ehh, to each of their own. [18:43:08] hm, seems pretty good for mobile [18:43:27] tbh, i never saw any wiki use [truglass](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Truglass) [18:43:46] 1 public wiki using it [18:43:59] Only one wiki? Wow, talk about unused. [18:44:17] well, 1 public wiki in terms of independent wikis i suppose? [18:44:28] it does look very customizable though, i'm not sure [18:45:23] I'm not sure myself, honestly. [18:45:35] hoping for the day the [FNaF wiki](https://freddy-fazbears-pizza.fandom.com/) moves out from fandom [18:45:43] oh, cool! [18:45:53] it still seems to use the old icon [18:46:59] Nice! When the FNaF wiki leaves Fandom, they can take on customizing it to their full potential after they pick a skin for their choosing. [18:47:55] yeah, sadly not any time soon though [18:48:21] Oof. [18:49:12] [1/2] something i REALLY hate about fandom is when they changed their stupid global navigation, they made it so we have to click our icon instead of making it a dropdown... [18:49:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1426280423402766608/image.png?ex=68eaa6a7&is=68e95527&hm=4fd313c5446a8cdc04e72f6b8158ee47680b4482b73ccec6ead69d79547172dd& [18:49:48] From my observations, wikis tend to move out in groups of similar topic when they see similar wikis making the change. I think we attracted lots of Roblox wikis for this reason, and new wikis will probably be created here. Unfortunately I don't remember seeing many single-player game wikis on MH. [18:50:19] True! [18:50:45] This is not mildly infuriating, this is bad design. [18:51:31] i think their excuse of "user experience" is bull shit [18:51:45] seems more like advertisers experience than ours tbh [18:52:47] They do it to please their investors, not us. This is pretty much what you see in some companies. I say this loosely because there are companies that care about us users, i.e., Miraheze to name off the top of my head. [18:53:06] i wish i wasnt BROKE enough to buy bf6 [18:53:07] 😭 [18:53:08] i don't believe miraheze is a company [18:53:11] isn't it a organization? [18:53:27] miraheze is entirely ran by volunteers [18:53:29] 90 fucking cad [18:54:36] It's an organization, derp. My brain is not braining. :P [18:54:57] Oof! [18:55:16] i dont have 90 cad 😭 [18:55:30] i have never seen any wiki use the [Tweeki skin](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Tweeki) [18:55:51] actually hold on [18:55:57] i'm gonna check what skins are still on miraheze [18:56:34] [1/2] There were a few some months ago [18:56:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1426282276332769321/image.png?ex=68eaa861&is=68e956e1&hm=0c12bb3fe54490ad91f68eebdce9b6bfe89163f94c0a17274ecc1ca19f23aedb& [18:56:39] [1/2] RAAAGHH [18:56:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1426282298629816470/Screenshot_2025-10-10_145524.png?ex=68eaa867&is=68e956e7&hm=1cfa764795bc37fb3613736e6e19cd3bb1c1acfb241e90307dafeb351f09f995& [18:56:45] ohh? [18:56:52] is it possible to know which ones uses them? [18:56:55] im gonna go cry now [18:57:26] Wait for me to get back home and pull up my local database. [18:57:35] got it [18:57:53] You can do it yourself by using the api (e.g. https://meta.miraheze.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=wikiconfig&wcfprop=settings&wcfwikis=vocaloidlyricswiki|strinovawiki|metawiki|bluearchivewiki) [18:58:06] And then look at `wgDefaultSkin` [18:59:13] okay i understand why it isn't being used [18:59:19] [1/2] Non-profit org to be exact [18:59:19] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation [18:59:20] it's not compatible with mediawiki 1.44 [18:59:27] How hard is citizan to theme? [18:59:35] i don't think it is that hard [18:59:39] it has lots of variables [19:00:19] It was not at some point, but I think we fixed it in the end (https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13645) [19:00:34] That explains it wasn't used up until now. [19:00:41] [1/2] ? [19:00:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1426283310073778217/image.png?ex=68eaa958&is=68e957d8&hm=56b1169c03b52d63e5359b1fbe38304c299192a73dd2bae9507327c025d9ebff& [19:01:57] Both pivot and tweeki are working. Snap does not. [19:02:28] ohhh [19:09:07] is there a reason on why the Evelution skin was removed? [19:12:39] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13471#270359 [19:14:30] ah [19:14:31] okay [19:22:42] Read somewhere the chameleon was the most popular mediawiki skin which made me highly confused. [19:27:32] the [Nimbus ](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Nimbus) skin is pretty similar to [Monaco](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Monaco) [20:03:09] although Nimbus has more stuff [20:47:29] I’m pretty fond of nimbus [20:48:26] Organization and company can be used semi-interchangeably in most contexts (a company is a type of organization, after all) but it's correct that company usually implies for-profit [20:49:14] But much like a company, we are in fact fully incorporated and registed with a state and country for tax purposes, which is not necessarily true of all organizations. [20:52:30] isn't the wikimedia foundation based on donations to be ad-free [20:52:35] and dont they own fandom? [20:53:01] who told you that ... [20:53:02] Not exactly [20:53:25] or am i just stupid [20:53:55] Fandom is owned by a for-profit corporation, but it's president is also the founder of Wikipedia [20:54:12] Fandom was founded by the founder of Wikipedia but it’s owned by a different company, TPG [20:54:16] Ninjad [20:54:40] But yeah, the WMF does not own any controlling stake in Fandom, to my knowledge, it just shares common people [20:56:20] [1/3] I wish we could configure that skin though [20:56:20] [2/3] also why is shoutwiki here lol [20:56:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1426312417146572810/image.png?ex=68eac473&is=68e972f3&hm=5d21f2927397321b168b720dce69bf556f7db4b9e48f2ec7d25e966654e073a1& [20:56:57] I’m trying to figure that out too [20:57:12] Probably some goofball default [20:59:12] what is a Internationalization "message" (nimbus has those) [20:59:20] and are they customizable [20:59:34] Can maybe look into Halopedias code since it’s a major wiki that uses nimbus [21:13:44] they are probably customizable but you need phorge first (i suppose) [21:14:37] Ah, Nimbus was originally designed for use on ShoutWiki [21:15:25] it was? [21:15:49] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Nimbus [21:15:58] Explains why it has a default shoutwiki callout [21:16:20] and morewikis [21:16:23] kind of like Monaco [22:06:03] well that looks exactly like monaco with some slight css changes [22:18:37] Wales is the president?? [22:18:45] My understanding was he was on the board [22:20:14] Oh, nope [22:20:19] Wikipedia concurs, wtf [22:50:54] He is on the WMF board of trustees, IIRC [22:51:04] So that might be what you're thinking of