[01:30:55] Nice. [01:30:59] Hello Pix. [01:39:50] Olá arroz [02:02:10] Que? [02:08:53] ah me desculpa. Olá fazendeiro de arroz [02:41:07] Lo siento, no hablo español. [02:44:42] Cara eu também não falo espanhol [05:50:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1435868929049235486/citizen.gif?ex=690d88a5&is=690c3725&hm=7694ccf4b347c2596037961dabc54237bbee522db0f671129de12b0a2582afa8& [06:27:08] best skin honestly [08:35:14] https://vxtwitter.com/Xploshi/status/1566937811755929600 [09:04:03] Lol. [11:05:03] Yo sups [17:34:56] [1/6] Me: I have a PC that can destroy anything [17:34:57] [2/6] Ryzen 7 9800X3D [17:34:57] [3/6] 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM (EXPENSIVE!!!) [17:34:57] [4/6] RTX 4070 SUPER [17:34:57] [5/6] 3TB M.2 SSD! [17:34:58] [6/6] Also me: editing pages on a wiki [17:35:25] That’s some hella ram [17:57:55] Sadly it has gotten ultra expensive [17:58:10] I luckily got it before it soars like crazy because of AI. Only $200 [17:58:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436052211820920903/IMG_8865.png?ex=690e3357&is=690ce1d7&hm=e4038c655a3913094f96b5a2f1d8fa374597d22a3375d0db6c26a5c4dca399ee& [17:59:37] 😭 [17:59:40] Was it worth it [18:08:52] It wasn't [18:10:04] i think 16 gigs of ram is not going to be enough soon [18:10:12] first thing i plan to upgrade [18:10:43] based on my experience, if you're on linux, 16gb is enough rn, but 32 can't harm [18:10:48] It's not enough by today standard [18:10:53] if you're on Windows, you probably need double of what you need on Linux [18:11:03] You need at least 32GB these days, I would prefer 64GB [18:11:37] I upgraded from 16 to 32 when I was still using Windows because it used to crash because it was out of memory, but since I switched to linux, I rarely use more than 16 gb even with multiple jetbrains IDEs open [18:12:00] Linux have ZRAM compress so it's much less pressure than Windows [18:12:24] Windows RAM compression is mostly useless [18:12:37] ^ Not pagefile [18:13:15] Try to turn off pagefile and watch your PC crashes [18:14:22] <_arawynn> at least the games I play usually require 16 GB RAM - I upgraded mine to 32 like 2 years or something ago [18:14:53] That's because Windows send "unimportant files" to the pagefile [18:15:14] Otherwise you have pretty high chance to get PC crashes when playing games [18:15:52] Not to mention if you have dedicated VRAM, a portion of them were in VRAM instead of standard RAM [18:16:54] It is [18:17:06] I play Cities Skylines [18:17:27] I think your RAM is really pricey [18:17:44] you could get 2x48 5600 for less than that 450 [18:18:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436057196793299045/image.png?ex=690e37fc&is=690ce67c&hm=0673a269933cea13e37c2f680c1c569d665bcd3092430ba326ef0d7a3f4582bc& [18:18:58] oh [18:19:01] make sense [18:19:51] I can’t really give a good reference since my laptop is old and has pls try of other issues [18:22:01] erm, not really [18:22:37] Linux RAM compression ratio is like 1:2 to 1:3 so basic task should give you 3x more "RAM" for free [18:22:48] up to 3x, sorry [18:23:27] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436058417403002890/images.jpg?ex=690e391f&is=690ce79f&hm=b932c4476ffd477ffe932e96c582a28614427461cf551e89402b221762ccbebb& [18:23:44] [1/2] Upgraded to 128GB because of AssetStudio. Opening a game with it eats 50GB of RAM. I wish it is coded more efficiently but the maintainer abandoned it with a few forks floating around. [18:23:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436058487133311037/image.png?ex=690e3930&is=690ce7b0&hm=06e1e36ed64c5f28d03388a60257d2b7a0a2fbd84ac89ef04dff306336d5fef1& [18:23:56] WHAT [18:24:02] That thing can't be efficient [18:24:21] also did you load that thing with RAM only? [18:25:04] Yep. RAM usage goes to 80%+ after opening a game with it. [18:25:06] You can decompress files and load the decompressed files, should use much less RAM but you have to rely your HDD/SSD speed (also aware of SSD wearing, this mode can kill SSDs) [18:26:03] Typical game unpacking [18:26:24] I upgraded my laptop from 16GB to 64 (with DDR4) just to do that [18:26:32] 💀 [18:27:52] lmao [18:27:55] man [18:28:15] glad im interested only in small indies among new shit [18:30:52] Thanks. That's good to know. I suppose people doing it semi-frequently would indeed be wary of exhausting SSD write cycles. [19:13:05] what you folk use as MEGA and google drive alternatives? [19:13:34] self hosting doesn't count [19:14:59] GitHub works for small things. [19:15:38] my things aren't small sadly [19:16:47] and i need it like, only for myself [19:17:02] between my laptop, tablet and phone [19:17:26] had to set google drive quickly before my 4 months trip, helped me tons, but I'm not a big fan of it, and MEGA is reserved for a big fan archiving project [19:17:56] Can you not email them to yourself? [19:18:08] every day?.... [19:18:16] im talking about synching [19:18:28] Oh, like that. [19:18:41] OneDrive is horrible, so I have no other ideas. [19:18:45] <_arawynn> there's also services like Syncthing [19:19:04] <_arawynn> to synchronise your stuff without using a cloud [19:19:22] ive been looking up alternatives, there some nonames now and some not very trusty so idk [19:19:31] asking good people now lol [19:20:16] you mean directly between devices, but all have to be online? [19:21:04] <_arawynn> [1/2] for the synchronizing yes, but it also should be possible to access your stuff offline [19:21:04] <_arawynn> [2/2] I've been looking it up but haven't used it so far [19:21:50] not having to use vpn would be nice too lol [19:22:00] proton drops out here [19:22:12] and yandex, well ... [19:25:36] that means each device had to have the entire ~4 folder copy, lowkey synching backups :ThinkerMH: [19:31:26] <_arawynn> that might depend on the service - I think there might be options where you can decide which of your files should be automatically downloaded to your device [20:23:54] any ideas what to do if vesktop just opens blank black window? [20:25:11] Exorcism? [20:28:20] Apex looks like a pretty good skin [20:28:26] Just needs some... fixes [21:04:34] Monaco is crazy underrated [21:36:18] (that is false) [21:36:31] #TakingALook [21:43:09] too much citizen simps these days ... [21:48:15] Yeah [21:48:31] Citizen looks ugly for me [21:49:03] i mean, you can make it nicer w/ css, that's what people do, i hardly seen untouched citizen [21:49:28] it's just still too minimal for my liking + constant hustle [21:49:37] #MakeMonacoGreatAgain [21:50:33] i feel like 1/4 of questions here as for recent are citizen related [21:51:26] half of Roblox wikis use citizen [21:53:05] I love Vector 2022 [22:23:59] citizen looks more modern [22:24:07] and is more modern [22:25:40] (i mean it looks down ancient browsers) [22:36:17] me after making god knows how many monaco requests on phorge [22:41:06] tbh a skin i found good is liberty [22:42:05] it was removed in 1.37 upgrade bc of incompatibility [22:42:25] but it's only nobody told the skin's author it became incompatible [22:42:56] a recent issue told the author and they quickly fixed it and now fits even 1.44 [22:43:20] waiting for it to be added to mh again : [[phab:T14440]] [22:43:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab:T14440 [22:43:21]

[22:46:12] btw some early incompatibilities were also fixed after mh removed it [22:46:51] is that why now incompatible skins are only disabled in managewiki? seems the regular way was remove them in the past [22:57:25] Nextcloud on a VPS if you don't mind paying, Hetzner do pre built vps for like $5 probably less [22:57:47] Alternatively drop box? [23:44:19] citizen is the most modern of all the skins though. it's easy to style and looks good even if you don't style it at all, and it has dark mode built in which is much more difficult on a skin like timeless [23:48:35] me when half of roblox wikis use that skin