[03:51:48] [1/2] @Discord Moderators either a troll or a really bad scammer @/shinokasuu [03:51:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436201445681528842/Screenshot_20251107_044052_Discord.jpg?ex=690ebe53&is=690d6cd3&hm=a41231380a1849845baf61a40ca1c57f70abd1651f45ea8e5aa686c0f3811edf& [03:52:14] @shinokasuu [03:52:25] Banned [03:54:16] thank you [05:23:21] can't pay for anything, ideally ofc it'll be nicer [05:23:59] it's especially ugly unstyled lol [07:04:55] cosmos is better imo [07:05:28] cosmos is good [07:05:31] and same for vector [07:05:44] but those 2 look great when styled [07:05:51] Yep, especially with tweaks [07:06:02] citizen, when it is used as a default skin, looks pretty skin [07:06:18] fandom/wikia was really in their bag while creating Oasis [07:06:42] sucks it was filled with ads all over it [07:11:19] agreed [07:11:39] tbh fandom/wikia as an idea is really cool, and it still has plenty of good wikis [07:11:51] but it's a shame it has gone downhill [07:12:56] that's where miraheze fills in to be a greater ad-free and highly customizable alternative 😎 [07:13:16] Miraheze's problem is that it's a little too complicated for beginners [07:13:24] yeah [07:13:52] Fandom is the best wiki host imo [07:14:02] Even with all the ads, simply because it attracts beginners [07:15:10] Most miraheze wikis are also all over the place, and aren't consistent with skins, which beginners don't like [07:16:02] wiki.gg's better in that regard imo [07:16:16] it balances the convenience of fandom the quality of miraheze [07:16:27] Wiki.gg doesn't do entertainment very well [07:16:41] It won't attract anime/manga fans [07:16:47] or Netflix shows [07:17:25] from what I've seen, a large portion of entertainment wikis never really forked at all, and it's likely because they didn't think about it I guess [07:17:59] wiki.gg does still allow for entertainment topics, much like fandom and miraheze do, though most of their wikis are about games [07:18:19] Who even started Wiki.gg, its a for-profit, that's all I know [07:18:39] a handful of formerly Gamepedia staff [07:22:45] I bought a USP today. [07:23:07] The box for it lists an Xbox 360 as runtime example. [07:23:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436254741997949001/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_8e7fbbb0-968a-402a-b52f-33fd70437b23.jpg?ex=690eeff6&is=690d9e76&hm=6e642d2ae0052432995bc72c83351cab10e678d2c3f32f525fd982ed0c2f7b9f& [07:24:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436254868728709222/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_f2f97fb2-acff-4ed3-a020-8d76c738e6a7.jpg?ex=690ef015&is=690d9e95&hm=d9b1443381b5e6650119f4514c437aaeedf491d260d453386b5ea821f1f135d4& [07:24:16] I have the middle one, the BR1000ELCD. [08:53:23] https://github.com/utdrwiki/skin there's another skin trying to be similar to fandomdesktop [09:12:25] a very heavily customized Vector 2022 skin [09:16:39] Its not that heavily customized, it gets rebased upon Vector everytime Vector adds something majorly new, its a lot of fine changes to suit the skin to the Undertale/Deltarune Wikis needs. [09:17:04] I've been using it for my wiki a month or so after they started using it, https://wiki.terranil.org/ [09:18:04] Although, If you use it you need to use their tweaks extension: https://github.com/utdrwiki/tweaks also as it changes something with the notifications categories. [09:19:00] https://tenor.com/view/let%27s-take-a-look-lets-take-a-look-let%27s-have-a-look-lets-have-a-look-seal-gif-1233467109289662120 [09:50:19] My skibidi toilet is being ruined by corpos! [09:50:28] How shall I ever cope up with this cruel reality? [10:47:43] what [10:49:59] yes [10:50:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436306924479053855/1762512651964.png?ex=690f2090&is=690dcf10&hm=4b241f8394f470f382cd1a99d72e52f3b1a9265def85c19c0852d19340b7f444& [10:51:49] I think you would know.... [10:52:02] but what counts as chemical castration? [10:52:29] if it's only "lowering testosterone to levels that heavily inhibit libido", then yes [12:07:02] I thought you bought a USP (the gun). Not A UPS misspelt as USP. [12:27:07] seems like discord now blocks linux w/ vpn [12:27:36] was told to spoof windows user agent and it took ~6 min to load [12:32:01] I live in Australia. [12:32:03] They are banned. [12:32:31] I also took a picture of the UPS box. [13:23:37] Can you send the Australian Gov over to me to teach ours a thing or two? [13:31:49] No unfortunately, they're too busy banning Social Media for kids. [13:39:41] would the canadian govt suffice [13:39:54] they dont allow us to get handguns anymore 🙁 [13:40:14] or guns they just dont like for whatever reason [13:40:23] That's not necessarily unreasonable. [13:40:33] they like just named out guns that are banned [13:40:35] for whatever reason [13:41:02] Now see that's weird, because that's just going to encourage loopholes. [13:44:28] I have a Glock 21. [13:46:55] [1/3] a few examples [13:46:55] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436351210688086078/Screenshot_2025-11-07_084459.png?ex=690f49ce&is=690df84e&hm=737afac4a901352984de3110352c1a7bc834b291c2a7fb284d70a905d1094f0e& [13:46:55] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436351211032023162/Screenshot_2025-11-07_084639.png?ex=690f49ce&is=690df84e&hm=2a290eeae1530de3ecaab1a785c0b6db749489f56bd87266cafa43449e56226b& [13:47:05] they ban a ww1 era machine gun but dont ban the m249??? [13:47:16] That's cool, you sure don't want a Sig Sauer P320? [13:47:30] oh wait no they did banned the 249 [13:49:14] they ban the benelli m1 but not the benelli m4 [13:49:18] what are these standards [13:49:18] Here, read up on my state: https://johnstonwithers.com.au/news/south-australian-firearms-laws [13:51:12] if i remember correctly if you put like a gel ball into a nerf gun the nerf gun was now considered an actual firearm [13:52:00] Yeah. [13:52:19] 😭 [13:52:36] not even canada has this level of bullshittery [13:53:13] at least we have airsoft (through a strange loophole albiet) [13:54:24] best room clearer ever [13:54:29] just chuck it into a room itll fire itself [14:48:23] NO. [14:48:33] I prefer my thigh intact. [15:02:11] wiki.gg staff are mostly pretty cool from my interactions with them, made some fun contributions to the ecosystem [18:11:05] TIL this wiki moved [18:11:44] another thing to bookmark into my mind [18:22:34] agreed, and they basically host the major wikis I edit [18:22:59] I still have a bunch of smaller wikis on fandom, my current sandbox wiki on miraheze, and edit a couple of wikis hosted by weird gloop [18:24:53] so, i'm kinda everywhere in terms of the wiki world 😅 [18:26:55] Respect [18:27:10] I think having that variety is really important ngl [18:27:34] yeah I agree [18:28:19] Also tieing into me personally very much not liking when people are so staunchly anti fandom in a way that dismisses and mocks it entirely [18:28:32] no miraheze must grab a monopoly over the wiki worldz!!! /j [18:28:40] Bit hard to explain [18:29:39] only thing I haven't really done is self-hosting, which honestly isn't something I would do personally, because why pay for hosting and domain name and take the extra responsibility of managing the backend of a wiki when I can host my wiki for free somewhere else? [18:29:54] who would we steal wikis from if fandom didn't exist smhhhhhhhh [18:31:22] it's not to say that it's an invalid option, it's a great option for maximum control over your wiki, but I know you can almost do that with miraheze without the extra responsibility of controlling the backend and hosting [18:35:16] yeah. you and I can agree that fandom's direction, the ui/ux, and the way it's handling its platform all suck badly, but some of us may have some smaller wikis made a while ago that may not have attracted any community and probably has not much of a chance to fork [18:35:43] or wikis that may still be stuck there for other reasons like being too big or too active [18:37:20] (or even being too big AND inactive can be another reason too) [18:39:14] it doesn't mean I wouldn't want for them to move away from the platform, it's all about practicality (e.g. making sure community agrees first, plans on adding and expanding content, etc.) [18:42:11] a:this: [18:45:33] I do also agree on the notion of separating the good stuff (the wikis) from the bad stuff (fandom) and not to necessarily to devalue a wiki just because it's on fand*m [18:47:09] e.g. last year, the wikis of warframe, vampire survivors, and balatro were all still on fand*m and we're pretty good in terms of content and usage. all of the wikis moved out this year and became beloved and popular wikis once they got out of that platform [18:47:44] and i'd say this is more of something good being freed from something bad, rather than something bad in of itself turning into something good once it moves out [18:49:13] if the wikis of star wars, star trek, genshin impact, escape from tarkov, or hades, all move out from fandom, i'm sure those already undisputably good resources are just getting freed from something bad [18:49:33] See that, “fand*m”, also ticks me off a bit [18:50:09] It feels just, disrespectful to not just the corporation but the community [18:50:26] And definitely doesn’t help any goodwill between us [18:50:36] fair [18:51:13] I do kinda say it semi-jokingly like how ppl censor random words on t*ktok [18:59:13] what goodwill? on the battle cats fandom wiki they literally censored the word "miraheze" so you physically would have to write something like "mira" or "mirah*ze" [19:02:23] dandelion flower wiki platform with its name being based on two stars [19:13:34] Exactly [19:13:45] I don’t want that to be the case, certainly not the standard [19:15:01] That is a point though. However it stands, deliberately exacerbating it won't help. [19:15:36] Platforming it in the official discord of the service definitely doesn’t [19:16:10] Not to say I’m packing my bags to turn Miraheze into Oceania [19:20:56] my new favourite slur 😻 [19:21:48] Smacking you with a newspaper [19:23:14] i have my pink hoodie on i'm literally invincible rn [19:23:34] w*ki.gg [19:23:40] w*kipedia [19:23:57] we*rd gloop [19:23:59] a*xy [19:24:02] nono that one is good since it makes j*mbo money [19:24:03] n*wa [19:24:37] Sighs heavily [19:25:02] sh*utwiki [19:25:05] w*kidot [19:25:11] t*lepedia [19:25:14] g*me vault [19:25:31] there we go, we made it all equally balanced [19:25:55] oh yeah, there's f#####life, that deserves more than just one letter censored [19:28:39] [1/3] Any wikifarm that interacts with upstream would be making contributions to the ecosystem (e.g. making bug reports or even sending patches), and wiki.gg made some cool extensions in addition to that. [19:28:39] [2/3] Fandom turning their extensions proprietary and hacking MW core was an unfortunate move that isolated them from the rest of the ecosystem. [19:28:39] [3/3] MH is probably one of the more radical farms where we upstream as much as possible and don't apply our own patches unless absolutely necessary. It sometimes makes our lives harder (e.g. CommentStreams) but maximizes our contributions to the ecosystem. [19:28:45] No wonder many of us use Fedora which has a similar philosophy lol. [19:29:16] i recently got converted to fedora and am loving it [19:29:24] wtf was i thinking a few years ago with ubuntu [19:30:32] that makes it look so much worse 😭 [19:31:03] i can't lie even without the censoring i first though fextralife was some sort of kink site [19:31:26] it surely runs like one [19:31:42] Nah I just liked the name Fedora ngl [19:32:10] you damn reddit moderator go m'lady someone else!!!! [19:32:11] (Also the philosophy towards balancing stability and up to date ness) [19:32:35] stability my ass f43 died so hard i couldn't even tty to save it [19:32:36] most wiki platforms > fandom > fextralife cuz fextralife has ads, no mediawiki backend, and no copyleft license [19:35:23] lmfao [19:35:30] On that front I don’t think I chose great [19:35:32] Oh [19:35:35] Actually [19:35:52] @pixldev can you copy paste files from dolphin into Discord [19:36:00] did you just ping yourself [19:36:21] yeah you can [19:36:21] chat am i schizophrenic [19:36:39] https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-alerted-horse-gif-16336030350313419753 [19:36:40] yes [19:37:21] @pskyechology 😅 [19:37:30] We all used it at some point [19:37:32] yeah you can [19:37:33] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/615786602454581249/1436439149266866228 [19:37:41] Huh [19:37:50] Maybe it’s an issue with the client I use, I’ll test it layee [19:37:59] Images work [19:38:06] I get what you're saying, but also submitting patches to core is incredibly difficult to get from A to B with the WMF [19:38:09] But I think the csv’s I regularly have to send don’t [19:38:42] The constant chasing to get someone to review your patches, or just getting flat out refused because it doesn't benefit Wikipedia is annoying as fuck [19:38:56] System crashes are indispensable to Linux the same way 503s are a Miraheze tradition. [19:41:15] I've submitted 3 patches so far (1 for core and 2 for skins) and am already feeling it lol https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/q/owner:lihaohong6@gmail.com [19:41:46] Upstream doesn't use Vector 2022 for mobile so they are not too interested in improving it in that respect. [19:41:56] Exactly my point [19:42:30] If it doesn't benefit Wikipedia then you're screwed unless you diverge [19:42:38] Which is a big part of how Fandom ended up in the pickle it did [19:47:28] I wonder if Fandom can change things if they throw donations at the WMF, though WMF is probably wealthy enough to not care about Fandom’s share. [19:50:53] They previously donated office space to WMF but that was ages ago [19:51:06] https://bkdstem.miraheze.org/wiki/Natad_tagayo [19:51:10] Interesting [19:51:11] worlds longest miraheze wiki name [19:51:15] (also Wikipedia is a direct competitor to Fandom so I doubt it) [19:52:23] Hardly [19:52:44] does fandom have more active users than wikipedia [19:53:32] [1/2] yes 🥲 [19:53:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1436443473694691359/image.png?ex=690f9fbb&is=690e4e3b&hm=f46ff07170ae3b239a5bfaffab5f0cccced3285316603d8bafef89f0a024e786& [19:54:08] thank you @abaddriverlol [20:00:23] Yes they are [20:32:46] i was thinking about a kink site that starts with f and ends with life ://// [20:33:16] (i wouldnt know) [20:44:34] i love making one hundred monaco tickets [21:19:40] is has many backlog issues and prs [21:28:32] mostly due to not closing them [21:28:41] anything new usually gets merged in [21:33:57] (i also wouldnt know) [21:34:35] good [21:42:36] and im too scared to ask [22:09:38] why mine almost three months https://github.com/KevinPayravi/indie-wiki-buddy/pull/1250 [22:10:02]