[00:03:38] <BlankEclair>	 i concur
[00:03:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> With who
[00:03:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> you
[00:05:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [1/2] the scientific equivalent to the deltarune wiki's page on kris
[00:05:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439043630819180564/1763165135280.png?ex=69191551&is=6917c3d1&hm=f6c1cf8709d499453a2e27c4cfbb2e8a46891a2e6a467ac6ae59182e7660093b&
[00:05:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i realized the foreground skin is actually very potential
[00:06:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> only six wikis on https://communities.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_wikis_by_default_skin?action=raw are using it
[00:11:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to honoka55> screenshot?
[00:12:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [[mh:wixoss:]]
[00:12:21] <wm-bot>	 https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/wixoss:
[00:12:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://wixoss.miraheze.org/wiki/>
[00:13:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i'm on a mobile device rn
[00:13:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> it's，responsive
[00:14:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [1/2] desktop scrrenshot
[00:15:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439045985992183808/image.png?ex=69191783&is=6917c603&hm=59cdbb3fda39c46423e884f74ea81f7d00396f525ac072080bfe33f515551f32&
[00:15:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439046004967084122/image0.png?ex=69191787&is=6917c607&hm=cb828f44f5107e28b34ae6296925a67deeed9557fdd17f4a9535c1acdf49d17f&
[00:15:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> okay yeah, it looks pretty neat
[00:15:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i moved the wiki back to miraheze recently and tried to look for a skin similar to the wiki's previous host
[00:16:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to honoka55> and it looked like Foreground?
[00:16:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [1/2] its look on the previous host
[00:16:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439046293564555314/image.png?ex=691917cc&is=6917c64c&hm=9b6aa43cd638d2792eb2f1512898c04905771bd4489cac322de8af4aa09a0100&
[00:17:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [1/5] previous host vs my customized foreground in half a day
[00:17:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [2/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439046735891796078/image.png?ex=69191836&is=6917c6b6&hm=b6e3af330ba1ad72e14571a9ca4a359c2b5630e31172c823f6f931eec97a1a59&
[00:17:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [3/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439046736386457692/image.png?ex=69191836&is=6917c6b6&hm=70eef18fec9dac87860988d385c28bb9a6bef6e5ed9b5863efb64034f5912e6f&
[00:18:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439046736919400614/image.png?ex=69191836&is=6917c6b6&hm=232ac44b653f0fb76c1e903e28ac2a51e233852b27a37aeb08a3dfe783c43bf6&
[00:18:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439046737795879043/image.png?ex=69191836&is=6917c6b6&hm=97b5ea78823f8f4836f3a6db30c93de139011052c3a1e44d40833a1d36654f93&
[00:19:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [1/2] the skin itself seems very simple that's why i say it's potential. screenshot another miraheze wiki using the skin w/o too much customization
[00:19:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439047157351977080/image.png?ex=6919189a&is=6917c71a&hm=cb646f342f0c32204194f2c2d0ee70693aebcd3e8dba789001b65385d1d23602&
[00:20:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Pivot
[00:20:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> this skin looks kind of nice
[00:21:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> oh it's also zurb
[00:22:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to bartomelow> not really but i failed to find a better base skin
[00:22:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i wanted to try chameleon but it's now under secure review
[00:23:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Medik?
[00:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> that's too different
[00:23:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> only similarity is bootstrap
[00:23:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> lakeus maybe
[00:23:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i also tried that
[00:24:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to honoka55> did it fit what you were looking for or not
[00:24:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> no
[00:25:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> foreground is my final answer
[00:25:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> what about HasSomeColours
[00:25:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> and it does look neat now
[00:25:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> also tried
[00:25:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to bartomelow> also tried
[00:25:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I am a Vector 2022 person myself
[00:26:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> yes my previous host's self-owned skin also includes bootstrap. i wanted to use a bootstrap skin but none of them looked similar to the wiki's old look
[00:26:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i wonder if Truglass looks good
[00:26:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> if i were moving from fandom there're many choices
[00:26:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> many use cosmos
[00:27:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I tried Cosmos before - even did a dark glass look
[00:27:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> many skins also try to look similar to fandomdesktop
[00:27:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to honoka55> i'd love for a 1:1 Oasis look
[00:27:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> Tbh I tend to at lest recolor any skin I use, and sometimes even be fancy and do glass looks
[00:27:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> but luckily foreground also has a similar framework zurb
[00:28:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth, replying to bartomelow> I remember Fandom before it had FandomDesktop
[00:28:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> cosmos tries to make the oasis skin look "good" but fails miserably imo
[00:29:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth, replying to bartomelow> Why does it fail>
[00:29:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> wait how's cosmos related to oasis
[00:29:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to honoka55> cause it's... based on that
[00:29:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> oasis is the very traditional one right
[00:29:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i didn't realize that
[00:30:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to eytirth> [1/2] doesn't have the same feel as oasis
[00:30:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to eytirth> [2/2] also why are they using `*` for global stuff
[00:30:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I thought wikis mostly used Vector and Vector 2022
[00:30:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i did do a lot to make cosmos look similar to fandomdesktop
[00:31:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I mean, I kinda just lean into whatever the skin looks like, and base it off that - I do not try and fully redo the "look"
[00:32:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> maybe i moved two wikis to mh i always try giving users continous experience
[00:33:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i really wish we got a 1:1 recreation of 2014 era oasis style
[00:33:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> *strictly my second one was created on mh, moved to other host in 2018 and back to mh in 2025
[00:34:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> so most visitors are more familiar with that host's interface
[00:34:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I do tend to theme all related things with the colors/style of the wiki
[00:34:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> when it was on mh it used vector
[00:34:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> so i also made vector same as its 2018 look
[00:35:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth, replying to honoka55> I tend to just follow Wikipedia's skin choices
[00:35:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i really don't understand vector-2022 and i prefer vector
[00:35:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> But I did manage to have a few intersing CSS verants for varying skins made for me
[00:36:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> after all why vector-2022 has a switch to old look link at most eyecatching place
[00:36:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> not all wikis are wikipedia
[00:36:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> if i start a wiki with vector-2022 what's my old look?
[00:36:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> Tbh I could set up another wiki with another skin, but I do not have anything to do for it
[00:37:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> the skin assumes every wiki upgrades from vector to vector-2022
[00:37:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I tend to kinda go though phases of interst and "bursts" of  actity and inpistion
[00:40:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> [1/2] like pls
[00:40:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439052374973874340/image0.webp?ex=69191d76&is=6917cbf6&hm=456901c02192978418210ca4c73d23e9f053d85c96d4c2f48c49c461c573c2c4&
[00:41:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth, replying to bartomelow> Wait, I kinda remember this
[00:41:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i NEED a recreation of that
[00:46:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> Steward darn it, now I remeber my wiki, Jelly Bean wiki ages ago on Fandom that was a rubbish worldbuilding wiki
[00:47:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I must of been what 15-17 at that time
[00:47:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to honoka55> I think I know what moeskin is inspired by now.
[00:55:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth, replying to bartomelow> Could one in theroty CSS cosmos into it?
[00:56:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to eytirth> maybe, but a lot of js would be needed aswell
[00:57:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth, replying to bartomelow> If someone did, I will give them a online cheeseburger on toast with mashmallows
[01:09:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> with wikilove ext
[01:12:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> what if i create a brand new wiki on miraheze
[01:12:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i've got some idea but i don't think i have time to write much enough content for it now
[01:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> [1/4] Also random thought, if worldbuilding wikis was Adeptus Astates 
[01:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> [2/4] Codex complint = The wikis that try be "Wikipedia for a fiction world" (eg ConWorlds, Altverse 2_)
[01:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> [3/4] Semi Codex Complint: Keeps some of the "Wikipedia style" but not all., Eg wiki style lore writing but not following the style exactl. Eg Taerel wiki
[01:15:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> [4/4] Non Codex Complintl: Screw the wikipedia style, we make our own rules. Eg SCP Foundation kinda
[01:20:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> [1/2] What Gemini has to say
[01:20:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439062523646312533/Screenshot_from_2025-11-15_01-20-31.png?ex=691926ea&is=6917d56a&hm=573b9a2bb37d005559f36f6d0e4a46d1e2fcf5c951f9880b90fd6f16f91d98e7&
[01:22:52] <BlankEclair>	 i'm out here like "which ubuntu flavour is it?"
[01:23:02] <BlankEclair>	 (DE looks like cinnamon, but it's been years since i last used it)
[01:23:23] <BlankEclair>	 https://ubuntucinnamon.org/
[01:23:25] <BlankEclair>	 called it
[01:29:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> cinnamon. I prefer it to Ubuntu's defent and I would rather not mess around with removing and adding DEsz
[01:36:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i'm gonna be seriously honest
[01:36:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> while the newer oasis version is, i LOVED this way more
[01:48:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> https://web.archive.org/web/20141103073235/http://freddy-fazbears-pizza.wikia.com/wiki/Five_Nights_at_Freddy%27s_Wiki#
[01:59:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> What old skins/wiki things do you people miss?
[02:04:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> moegirlpedia before 2021
[02:05:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> what happened after 2021
[02:07:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer, replying to honoka55> What happened after 2021?
[02:11:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> lemme guess if it's stated in [[w:moegirlpedia]]
[02:11:39] <wm-bot>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/moegirlpedia
[02:11:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/moegirlpedia>
[02:11:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> oh wikipedia has it
[02:35:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [1/2] i'm staring at this and telling myself "should i use this"
[02:35:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439081278241640468/image.png?ex=69193861&is=6917e6e1&hm=b943e049e1db15792a36a767e906f4565a15167a7a27b65ec3c1a1242d145a60&
[02:57:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer, replying to honoka55> Damn.
[02:57:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer> Drama so big. Wikipedia has an article of it.
[02:57:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer> That's like. An achievement. Ngl.
[03:15:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to bartomelow> [1/2] On 2021-10-29 there was a mass demotion of volunteers similar to Raidarr's T&S ban. It was a huge deal for editors but less so for general public. 
[03:15:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to bartomelow> [2/2] Besides that, a new skin and a bunch of other censorship issues which are mentioned in the wikipedia article.
[03:34:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer, replying to posix_memalign> We all live in Chinese censorship.
[03:34:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer> Chinese censorship!!!
[03:34:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer> Chinese censorship!!!
[03:44:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55, replying to honoka55> i've also got another
[03:44:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> missing old wiki
[03:45:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i'm now running Pleasant Goat Wiki the canon one but there was actually a pleasant goat fanon wiki around 2020, with at least 100 articles iirc
[03:45:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> it was self-hosted, not on any wiki farm
[03:46:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> then the domain and server owner shut it down
[03:47:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i recently tried contacting them and wanted to see if i can move it to miraheze (if they didn't delete the server's files) but no reply at all
[03:48:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> i can still recall it was using the timeless skin
[05:00:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> alright gonna blow everybody's mind here
[05:01:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> i can read every language albeit not being able to understand it
[05:01:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> such a marvellous feat i know
[05:23:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> read linear A
[05:28:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to honoka55> idk bro the text means something probably
[18:00:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toosplatched> [1/2] decided to switch up the miraheze main pages a lil
[18:00:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <toosplatched> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1439314131671847083/image.png?ex=691a113e&is=6918bfbe&hm=655dfdb90da65e13d4b3d770f942df1976da550ea4333ead261b1b67971b7834&
[18:19:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to toosplatched> https://tenor.com/view/jiggy-shiggy-wiggy-girls-last-tour-gif-8071140583165616478
[18:19:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> i need....
[23:52:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i wish youtube still had a pretty unique layout