[03:17:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540> Very, straight down to the HTML level.
[10:55:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mooncloud> miraheze labubu
[11:09:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to mooncloud> explode
[11:14:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> till what's vibe coding cus i went to search if certain software supported on linux and stumbled on some controversy over some kid doing that to make a frontend thingy that could harm said software's network
[12:27:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to mooncloud> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551911984149299220/1373031652955258900/togif.gif
[13:00:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Vibe coding is no good, generally its a mix of AI, and mindlessly adding stuff people find on the internet without regard to security or actual functionality
[13:01:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> https://tenor.com/view/3lamestudio-gangnam-style-2d-animation-gif-17526317845883527832
[13:01:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> While (and I may be an outlier) I do think AI can be a good tool to give you an idea of what the code should look like and maybe help walk through debugging steps, it should not be solely relied on
[13:02:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Like I’ve used it to help me figure out why parts of code I was working on wasn’t working but I didn’t mindlessly copy and paste either
[13:03:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah ive realised, no code review is stupid
[13:04:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to zppix> (Turns out if you dont put an if in your if statement it does indeed not if statement)
[13:04:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Took me longer than I care to admit to realize I forgot to put an if 😂
[13:07:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [1/3] tbh I think AI's mainly useful for: helping you to check that you've done something correctly and got the points you wanted (only _after_ you've done it though otherwise the work will be tainted); to provide general pointers when you don't have a clue; to help track down weird bugs or behaviours; or to write short little things where you're unfamiliar, e.g. a shell script if yo
[13:07:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [2/3] u don't know bash
[13:07:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [3/3] I don't like having AI code something completely because if it doesn't work (which it probably won't) you don't know why it doesn't work, whereas when something I wrote doesn't work I at least have a clue of what the code is trying to do
[13:13:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf> I'm generally too stubborn to use AI to do anything more than "write me a SQL command that does this" and sometimes I wonder if I'm holding myself back from doing so
[13:16:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> not outsourcing my learning to The Environment Destroyer 3000
[13:17:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> last time I used AI to actually write some code and used that code I ended up having to rewrite it anyway
[13:17:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf> I wish I were one of those developers using AI to write unit tests / test suites. Instead I just suffer from boredom writing those by hand
[13:18:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> but like when I was using some Python-Excel library and I just wanted to do one specific thing I asked ChatGPT and it gave me a working solution in seconds
[13:18:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Yeah ChatGPT is good at being Google Search in my experience
[13:19:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf> I don't use it for actually writing things tho, just looking things up
[13:20:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to ccxtwf> I probably don't write enough unit tests lol. The only project I've worked on post-Uni where I've written unit tests is my code to take game files and make wiki pages, but that's probably far too niche for ChatGPT to do anyway
[13:20:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> I say "unit tests", most of them require access to the file system so if you look at them another way they're integration tests
[13:22:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf> The wiki I help run does a lot of things with regexes so it's not wise to skip on the unit tests
[13:26:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to bartomelow> burn
[13:26:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> death i say
[13:26:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> what have you cast on my eyes?
[18:20:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I have discord on mobile now
[18:21:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1440406453994262700/VID-20250929-WA0001.mp4?ex=691e0a8c&is=691cb90c&hm=ae7377899cea1e2c7e37214c5351e9a574d98be26939471f3e5f49fab4d42a57&
[18:21:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> My friend bird Eric
[18:56:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> birb 💛
[19:16:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I have loads of funny videos of him
[20:19:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to ccxtwf> Whenever I discover a corner case for the regex I add one more unit test. Very satisfying to see the tests all green when I run them.
[20:23:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I honistly do a lot of stuff by hand on my wiki or aided by JavaScriptWiki bowser