[01:45:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ohgodpleaseno.> What happened to ShoutWiki?
[01:48:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> wdym
[02:17:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272, replying to ohgodpleaseno.> Did it die out
[02:17:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272> Or get broken so much to the point it’s unusable
[06:56:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to posix_memalign> Correct
[09:06:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to ohgodpleaseno.> Abandonware
[11:14:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honoka55> is awa still fine
[16:58:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> awa is like...
[16:58:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> so old
[16:59:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> but it's ok ig
[17:44:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> tbh a better idea for a wiki is hosting something like an "indie wikis wiki" or a "non-fandom wikis wiki"
[17:46:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> I know there is the "miraheze communities wiki" but I'm talking about the broader scope of including independent wikis, wikis hosted by groups like weird gloop and abxy, and even wiki.gg (since a lot of wikis did move to there and has a fair reading experience right now)
[17:48:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> so wikis wiki
[17:48:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> or wikiindex ...
[17:49:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> if only it didn't have strict user registration
[17:51:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to justleafy2003> wonder why they never changed from Anti-Wikia-Alliance to Anti-Fandom-Alliance
[17:52:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> guess wikia is just a better namae
[17:53:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> kinda like a combination of wikis wiki and awa
[17:53:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to bartomelow> or maybe the admin(s) are inactive
[17:53:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> or both
[17:53:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to bartomelow> [1/2] because it's on shoutwiki
[17:53:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to bartomelow> [2/2] also at least one of its members hopped from there to mira
[17:54:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> ofc wikia is much better name than fandom, sigh
[19:43:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers, replying to justleafy2003> i actually think this might be better to have it off mh, even independently hosted... though honestly there's so many wikis out there that this'd be a big undertaking
[19:45:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to bartomelow> same reason you'd deadname twitter
[19:47:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to justleafy2003> there are quite a lot of these "wikis wiki" wikis floating around and it's difficult to keep track, I propose a "wikis wikis wiki" wiki to keep track of the wikis
[21:08:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i propose: The Worst Reception Wikis Wiki
[21:08:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to thewwrnerdguy> nah, wikis wikis wikis wiki, it's better
[21:08:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> https://wikis.wikis.wiki
[21:38:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to blankeclair> actually clicked this
[21:38:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> expecting it to be real
[21:38:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> simply because you're claire
[21:39:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> and registering this domain seems like Claire Antics™
[21:40:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [1/2] anyone wanna make a donation?
[21:40:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1441906110939533525/1763847601146.png?ex=69237f36&is=69222db6&hm=340737e035fc842c88ccaefbb3b382a2dccc6198de1fa55e6175899eda5b06c8&
[21:42:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> if you want suffering, lookup the exchange rate of GBP -> AUD
[21:43:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to blankeclair> What’s it in CF
[21:43:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i doubt it's much cheaper
[21:44:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> 1,512.22AUD
[21:44:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Roughly
[21:44:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1441907221507084318/1763847868218.png?ex=6923803e&is=69222ebe&hm=038a95e3ac831b7754f1a09b26fc61c2539765ab0375f2b6c3df00229dfd8c2f&
[21:44:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> oh, it is cheaper
[21:45:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> still though...
[21:47:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to pixldev> wait until you go "ah okay, my domain is about 20 quid, not bad... why am i paying 40 aussie dollars now"
[22:22:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272, replying to blankeclair> Great idea
[22:23:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272, replying to blankeclair> [1/2] Me who manages the character reception wikis but even I think their extremely flawed
[22:23:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272, replying to blankeclair> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1441916970202169374/IMG_3360.webp?ex=69238953&is=692237d3&hm=f15d59e95376a9f9749977b733d33a8c5bdb05d9de43221491593ef04e07efb7&
[22:36:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to blankeclair> back in the day this would exist
[22:36:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> today this would be a category on the still-living tiresome wikis wiki
[22:36:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I'm still on board for it having a page for itself
[22:36:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> there was/is a Reception Wikis Wiki
[22:37:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> was there a Worst qualifier? ^^;
[22:37:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> nope
[22:37:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> Repection wikis, not dead. Why?
[22:37:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> ah
[22:37:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> its a shockingly normal wiki
[22:37:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> holy shit
[22:37:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it was founded by a reception wiki connoisseur so even more miraculous
[22:37:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> Repection wikis, around still? Huh?
[22:38:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> they were never banned outright, only new, and the ones that live hang on for a long time
[22:38:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the ones that don't tend to find a way somewhere
[22:38:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> No ban? Why?
[22:38:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> Repection wikis, toxic commuities
[22:38:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it was not the outcome of the respective rfc
[22:39:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> they are fatally flawed but usually relatively harmless, just time consuming to wrangle
[22:42:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Close_the_other_reception_wikis if you're curious about digging into the history
[22:43:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/3] Short version:
[22:43:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/3] * No new reception wikis permitted
[22:43:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [3/3] * Existing ones were allowed to remain as long as they remain active and within policy guidelines
[22:46:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> Tbh they are kinda strange to me
[23:20:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to notaracham> [1/2] very readable
[23:20:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to notaracham> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1441931398788419635/image.png?ex=692396c3&is=69224543&hm=57c4156cb5c768af82f8109fdc14c7ca335d95e6934ea8a3882b00b68f27cb1f&
[23:27:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [1/2] hope editing to make it readable doesn't break any of meta's rules
[23:27:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1441933154159034458/image.png?ex=69239865&is=692246e5&hm=734dfecf2cd55e2152b5042db9fb545ecb2e62294dbd0df945621a405f585d5b&
[23:31:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to bartomelow> mmmmmmmmmmmm
[23:33:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to pixldev> ?
[23:36:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> We should do a bot replacement since these archives don't even use a template. Not sure if it has any side effects though.
[23:37:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [1/3] ngl the dark mode meta main page is kinda bland, why does it remove all colors, the light mode one has the borders and look somewhat cooler
[23:37:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1441935675338260693/image.png?ex=69239abe&is=6922493e&hm=97200a9c609766de5e109735cca9e03f5f1636149844abe9e7a4fa6acb88e288&
[23:37:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1441935675833319605/image.png?ex=69239abe&is=6922493e&hm=5e088a45135031007a4d635d7f2bf498bf6bc71e75683acee5d73c85b59fb2de&
[23:38:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> dark mode isn't nice extension to begin w/
[23:39:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> its uh
[23:39:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> ungreat
[23:39:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://darkreader.org/ is awesome though
[23:39:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> evil wikipedia
[23:40:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> vector 2022 uses a extension for dark mode?
[23:40:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> i wish meta looked cooler lol
[23:40:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> i think so
[23:43:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> the thing fandom does right is not making me have to click a button just to see it's contents
[23:43:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [1/2] cough cough vector 2022
[23:43:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1441937161539817643/image.png?ex=69239c21&is=69224aa1&hm=056f338816d4b37c726adf1efdcfb6e91c35d28996c969f7999a588c49efdb4b&
[23:44:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to bartomelow> I didn't bother to pick dark mode colors when I did the main page redesign. If you'd like, you can propose changes to https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page/styles.css
[23:45:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/903395171981459507 this channel never got touched again
[23:45:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> MW dark mode is quite painful due to the style duplication between two possible ways to activate dark mode, so if using Codex design tokens is not possible I'm less inclined to write lots of CSS for dark mode.
[23:48:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> i was thinking that yellow/orange would work nice for default look and dark purple for dark version ... and then i remembered fandom is literally like this
[23:48:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> damn
[23:48:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> kill fandom