[02:44:14] [1/2] Does anyone remember what the workaround is for text extracts to generate a description? The extension page indicates that "Articles must begin with the lead paragraph for an extract to be generated. The use of any template, and/or unclosed or empty HTML element may result in no preview for the article" but this feels a bit silly because most articles will begin with a temp [02:44:14] [2/2] late 🤔 [02:44:44] infobox? [02:45:09] yeah [02:45:25] toggle the option for using headings [02:45:34] whatever the opposite of the default was [02:45:51] ah this wgPortableInfoboxUseTidy [02:46:14] oh i already have it as false [02:55:04] useheadings or w/e [02:55:18] ^ [02:56:16] huh [02:56:34] oh [02:56:36] i see [02:59:09] AH [02:59:10] that fixed it [02:59:14] dumb as fuck extensions [02:59:18] ty ^.^ [02:59:26] yw :3 [03:42:47] No sé cómo le hacen para hacer historias con inteligencia artificial, a mi me aparecen muy exageradas 🫠 [03:51:39] Son muy exagerados y, por lo general, obviamente falsos. [04:31:29] @rhinosf1 are you up late or early [04:33:17] early [04:34:03] sweat heavens [04:34:28] Early [04:34:42] Flu has decided it doesn't want to allow sleep [04:34:50] It requires its paracetamol [04:35:45] i woke up at 5:30 am today ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ [04:36:10] i became conscious at 6 today but wake up is a whole other thing [04:37:01] I've been fighting demons (consequences of my (in)actions) and haven't slept :coolcry: [04:37:20] the ol' "finishing a project due today at 4 am" [04:37:39] I was wondering why the hell you were up at 4AM [04:37:52] sobbing [04:38:02] thanks for the emoji i need [04:38:40] [1/2] nah i barely managed to get started in school and never managed to continue [04:38:40] [2/2] fuck wordpress slop im never ever using this slop [04:39:01] woocommerce more like boocommerce [04:39:05] how painful has it been? [04:39:17] also, isn't there the whole matt thing [04:39:21] well, i suppose school... [04:39:47] can't be in pain if you ignore it :coolcry: [04:39:57] me everyday [04:40:26] Ye I'm not happy [04:40:39] just 12 days of hell [04:40:44] Cause I won't be able to take caffeinated paracetamol until at least 9am now [04:40:46] under two weeks! [04:41:01] Which means I won't feel the effects of it until 10am [04:41:05] If it helps I can crash out over my incredibly boring computering curriculum [04:41:12] [1/2] but i do see the merits of wordpress, it is ridiculously easy to get something ok going fast [04:41:12] [2/2] which is also exactly why i find it so unengaging and boring [04:41:16] It's too early for caffeine if I want to actually sleep some of the morning [04:41:29] That does mean another day off work [04:41:37] gawd, yeah [04:41:51] most people don't like having to play a minigame of getting The Thing working before being able to use The Thing, it turns out [04:41:59] work? yeah they made a plugin for that [04:42:02] MediaWiki has given us an allergy to user friendliness [04:42:16] LMAO i like this take [04:42:26] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/615786602454581249/1448242046820290600 [04:42:34] The sadest part is I’m kinda write LOL [04:42:49] If I’m not mixing my drug names, thats Tylenol, can you take ibuprofen? If so you can mix those together [04:42:51] and I'm read [04:43:01] what do you _mean_ that clicking the Login with MediaWiki button on the login page is unintuitive? [04:43:01] Would it be funny if i pin that idk [04:43:24] fuck it we don't have any [04:43:27] [1/2] yeah, paracetemol is tylenol [04:43:27] [2/2] i'm guessing it's the caffeinated bit? [04:43:33] wait, who takes caffeinated paracetemol? [04:43:38] mom what's a mediawiki [04:43:45] crackheads? [04:44:06] Its almost 11PM so my brain is shutting down (hopefully just for the night) [04:44:07] Good judgment is tiring i have to be a troll with powers sometimes right /hj [04:44:40] the assistant steward self-nom is making you go crazy with power [04:44:50] i must execute order 66 [04:44:59] [1/2] nom [04:45:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1468829739941888075/1770266696142.jpg?ex=698571cb&is=6984204b&hm=c8450f00e97b080ae9fc6e50cd5226cef9d598de72073a258b3ff1e436388c2e& [04:45:05] Not without going outside when a shop opens [04:45:13] oh [04:45:18] Is that silca [04:45:19] Which is the same time [04:45:20] I was debating for a bit if I was gonna self nom [04:45:23] yep! [04:45:41] I mean you might as well pick some up so you have both if that happens again [04:45:53] you could've asked any one of us for a glaze [04:45:59] People who want to be functional during the day with flu [04:46:10] NA offered and likely would have written better, but given everything except Meta Admin i think was nominated by someone else I wanted to write this one myself [04:46:21] fair [04:46:22] question: have you gotten sleepier after drinking coffee? [04:46:24] I mean hopefully I don't get flu often [04:46:34] Too bad I’m revdelling your nom and writing one 😂 [04:46:36] I don't drink coffee [04:46:39] the civilized world invented sick days for that [04:46:42] caffeinated products? [04:46:49] Idk, partially reflective of some things I need to learn and work on IRL, but felt like I had to take it in stride at some point [04:47:04] F NO MY 22 !VOTES [04:47:16] You can keep a couple [04:47:20] which is insane that’s past the old threshold for Stewardship [04:47:30] mfw i remember that i have two things to do, but i also wanna be in this convo [04:47:38] (moooood..) [04:47:44] No [04:48:01] I can be functional on my sick day [04:48:08] me when i should sleep [04:48:14] What about going for a walk for fresh air [04:48:14] no. rest. [04:48:15] me too [04:48:22] and plus I won’t feel bad about being nominated for a hypothetical full RfS [04:48:27] Fresh air though [04:48:39] Wait what we did… oh you said civilized… nevermind [04:49:08] My boss couldn't have cared less about a sick day [04:49:16] wondering how high this will go ngl.. [04:49:37] stealing this [04:49:40] today i will be funny on the internet by calling out of the many issues that plague the states [04:50:03] racism [04:50:06] please laugh [04:50:08] oooh, estrogen for $20 without insurance [04:50:11] That’s called the Associated Press honey [04:50:51] (No hate to AP, they doing the good work. Im just tired of mainstream media) [04:51:11] Also i love their election graphics [04:51:27] i saw a negative news article regarding brazil, and i'm like "hm, probably shouldn't send that to pixl" [04:51:46] A lot of news with proper journalists from a reputable org will be involve the associated press, press association or Reuters in some way [04:51:53] Appreciated… [04:52:00] Unless it’s like really funny [04:52:08] unfortunately not [04:52:35] if you're really conservative with no regard for life's value then it is absolutely hilarious [04:52:41] Example: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/brazilian-mayoral-candidate-hits-opponent-chair-live-debate-rcna171396 [04:53:00] I’m going to bed [04:53:02] lmao?? [04:53:05] Yk i’d watch this [04:53:05] wwe? for free? [04:54:19] to be clear they’re basically all horrible people, chair-ed person included [04:54:51] He was just giving them a place to sit [04:55:15] really makes them sit down and think about things [04:55:21] 😂 [04:56:47] need to remind myself to respond to a phorge task tmr [04:56:59] ^ said the same thing 24h ago [04:57:31] Hey you should respond to that phorge task [04:58:49] If you waited another 3 minutes it would’ve worked [05:00:02] Night wiki [05:01:24] I wonder [05:01:35] https://night.miraheze.org/ [05:01:48] Wow im shocked that doesnt exist [05:01:49] awh [05:02:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1468834189662097545/image0.gif?ex=698575f0&is=69842470&hm=60e7b510a693d1d4aca8b5ffeca27a27943833abdc1b2e9a8a9b453727c11c72& [05:02:57] No you are NotAracham [05:03:21] Nice PJSK reference. [05:03:51] teehee~ [05:03:54] (thank my sister for that) [05:04:17] what's a PJSK [05:04:38] project sekai [05:05:14] NOOOO THAT'S AN EVIL ACRONYM NOOOOOOOOOOOO [05:05:24] WHAT'S WRONG WITH PS [05:06:01] Wut [05:06:40] you can't just arbitrarily grab random letters to use in an acronym [05:07:08] you can only use the first one (including in compound words) [05:07:38] So I cant use ZPX as an acronym 😔 [05:07:43] I could really make you cry [05:07:47] With one at work [05:08:22] pspspspspspspspsps [05:08:24] idc for your halo 3 tag, that's whatever [05:08:34] Badly spelt trees was used as a naming scheme [05:08:34] meeeowwwwwwsw [05:08:40] And most of them are forced too [05:09:24] Ohhh I have one, MUR aka Medical Director Review Unit (which is an old name for one of our departments) [05:09:40] UTC [05:10:25] I think the last Halo I played was either the original or 2 lmao [05:10:53] 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 [05:11:09] I think 2 and I hated the install cause it was Vista at the time and Vista is the most unstable POS OS ever made [05:11:23] windows me vs vista [05:12:11] The English is CUT and the French is TUC so they decided to do the one that matches neither [05:12:31] ugh, i need to have something that lets me visualise my prescription into the future [05:12:54] instead of like, `date(2026, 3, 6) + timedelta(days=56 * 4)` and going "hmm, will i have enough repeats..." [05:45:03] Compromise: where neither party gets what they want, and both agree that's acceptable [05:46:13] This sounds like spreadsheets I've made before. Sometimes excel/google sheets does better what scripting makes hard [06:09:21] i wanna visualise it like a calendar [06:09:37] one dispense adds 112 days [06:09:50] see how many dispenses i need to line up close to a blood test date [06:10:26] wait no, 112 / 3 days [06:11:00] Interesting problem [06:11:38] I'm currently on work crunch for the next two weeks, but will put some thoughts towards this after next week is over [06:12:07] i know, what a pain xD [06:14:56] Thought experiment from work crunch: does eating a single mini nilla wafer count as microdosing dessert? [06:15:22] The current consensus is yes [06:16:21] [1/2] For those who don't know this foodlike thing: [06:16:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1468852729068785768/iu_.png?ex=69858734&is=698435b4&hm=cb1ff2a7978cb116659587764e1f59da0c937948d1f69173f41d32a4ac5f6c38& [06:17:19] (small half-oval bread that is mildly crisp, sugary, and vanilla-flavored) [06:29:12] absolutely [06:53:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1468862182195200041/1770274429997.png?ex=69859002&is=69843e82&hm=d753af03cc0856048852e89f4f871bd628a4d0a73df69cbd0d4048dda5134907& [06:54:55] Claire, stop microdosing Internet enabled adobe products [06:55:20] i just want to understand my medical needs 😭 [06:55:20] https://hpe.servicesaustralia.gov.au/MODULES/PBS/PBSM03/index.html [06:55:33] Fair [06:56:34] "hmm, can i claim an authority script with oshc?" -> "CAN I??" [06:56:57] > If the quantity and/or number of repeats prescribed is greater than the maximum listed in the Schedule, the prescriber must obtain an authority approval from Services Australia or DVA. [06:57:12] thank you, accessible prescriber training material [06:57:15] from https://hpe.servicesaustralia.gov.au/HTML/PBS/PBSM03.htm [11:10:55] it's only portableinfobox that does that, message box type templates don't interfere with textextracts. if you put the portableinfobox below the lead paragraph it works fine [13:06:02] Hi [13:29:50] i consider that a snack, not a dessert!!! [14:36:34] @justanotherdarkmodeuser [14:36:38] hi [14:36:42] ot [14:36:56] oh off topic [14:37:05] ye [14:37:29] logged for just simply "existing".. [14:38:02] if you see people pissy about flock in particular this is why [14:38:08] hell i wouldn't be surprised if a family tries to have a family and they're already logged in 100 databases [14:38:22] the medical industry at least in US terms really is something with that [14:38:43] starting with the fact hippa is not an adequate network and does virtually nothing if the medical profession wants to slather everything to its 'partners' [14:38:48] including guess who adtech [14:39:06] [1/3] do we like it? ofc not [14:39:06] [2/3] can we do anything? also ofc not [14:39:07] [3/3] ah, how depressing reality is... [14:39:28] you can do something about all this but it doesn't give dopamine hits because the results are incredibly gradual and require collective effort [14:39:53] the two things I'd say are to always scrutinize and to never give up simply because there is a lot of other bad shit [14:39:57] slow as a turtle, i'd assume [14:40:29] best we can do is work ourselves into a position where we can actually fight back [14:40:31] just because there is advanced fingerprinting and you are unlikely to be able to be anonymous on the internet with anything short of a zipped up tor browser setup etc etc doesn't mean it is not worth it to slap ublock origin on virtually anything you're using right now [14:40:49] or to reconsider the sites you visit, or take other steps of that nature and share those steps with others [14:41:49] take steps, share the steps, be annoying and persistent, even if not everything you do is perfect or there are still holes [14:42:30] among my steps also is resisting 'download the app' for anything that is not critically essential to be an app. If it is an online thing with an app then it probably has a webapp that works fine and leaks infinitely less about your phone [14:42:50] you can paint a picture of an even better phone setup but as far as making tangible steps, if this is not something you do, this is plenty to start [14:43:39] or lets say you don't want to ditch the apps and you don't check permissions, well the step then is have a look at permissions, ask if facebook really wants your microphone. And look at it that way [14:43:51] i see [14:44:15] well, i wonder can and will get realistically get into a position where we can fight back this reality [14:44:55] if we can or can't depends on as many people as possible just considering the above as a starting point [14:45:05] the more it is normal to care the farther you get in people actually caring [14:54:58] [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Raidarr/Volunteer_documentation/Italian_Brainrot opted in or opted out @raidarr? [14:54:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1468983245050871829/image.png?ex=698600c2&is=6984af42&hm=26e6e183d7bb317670db938e79d3c52b65700df44f82c3f94cd141d076d501ae& [14:55:02] just clarification [14:56:49] …how many brainrot wikis are there? [14:57:15] sounds more like grandfathering in rather than opting in to something [14:57:26] Fair [14:57:44] grandfathering is the right word [14:58:01] not logged in at the moment so its a free hit to fix [14:58:35] ill gladly claim that [14:58:52] too bad already done [14:58:56] aw.. [14:59:11] well [14:59:12] to be fair [14:59:19] i still have 60% of pages not translated [14:59:26] AND more pages not marked for translation [15:00:17] and it is basically only for me to claim, pretty sure the only other vietnamese translators is @songngu.xyz here and they're currently busy irl/grief [15:01:27] also since translations are done in units and each translation counts as 2 edits you get to farm edits like crazy [15:02:01] yeah it's basically buying a gamepass for double the experience poitns [15:02:01] easy way to get enough edits for any community roles [15:02:17] basically an stepping stone edit wise [15:02:29] but community trust and fitting for a role is not that easy [15:02:38] unless you're well established within the community [15:02:43] meanwhile I have to deal with only farming edits through putting `{{unsigned}}` everywhere [15:02:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:unsigned [15:02:53] of course wm-bot doesn't understand formatting [15:03:24] well translating vs farming editing through that template looks uh different [15:03:27] seems like it would be faster [15:03:34] to do that then translating [15:03:37] but you can simply just [15:03:47] invest an hour or two, use ai and manual review afterwards [15:03:53] you'll be reaching goals easily enough [15:04:13] there isn't a hard requirement that your edits shouldn't be translations only [15:04:26] and i don't think it should ever be counted (since it technically helps meta) [15:04:52] though i must wonder [15:04:59] does anyone use the vietnamese version of meta? [15:05:03] is there actual demand for it? [15:05:24] there's definitely a demand for the fundraiser [15:05:31] yeah there is [15:05:41] other things I'm not so sure of but there is a list of high-traffic pages [15:05:41] but is there demand for the people who is reading it? [15:05:47] [[Meta:Translators]] [15:05:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Translators [15:05:47] [15:07:46] I find it stupid how translators are only allowed to translate popular pages, and not all of the important ones [15:07:54] ^ [15:08:02] might make an rfc for that in the future [15:08:07] when i'm 100% done with the current one [15:08:21] also the restrictions should be lighter or not exist at all [15:08:22] I would :SupportMH: [15:08:25] when you're 100%ed all of it [15:09:05] the status quo with translation is because it was untenable to have translations be open to everything, modifying and marking up every page which is a substantial hit to casual editability, in a system very difficult to audit for an english centric audience and volunteering structure [15:09:21] let me be freely translate stuff when i'm done, yeah? [15:10:00] the translation extension is a layer that is actively in the way of the work in progress nature of the various policies, helper materials etc themselves, and so it has been a struggle over time and is the reason we have the somewhat unhappy compromise of now [15:11:04] there has been movement to consider something more automated specifically to ensure some level of serviceable translation is always current and does not require the busywork of a patchwork layer of individual translators, but no option that has successfully made it to implementing [15:11:24] [1/2] mmm I sure would love if every single page looked like this [15:11:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1468987381800767705/image.png?ex=6986049c&is=6984b31c&hm=7bf44ebf00e1b3ba007d9b5288b92aa1fa3684c6724c4ed32c124e76904fd4bd& [15:11:44] that is what I'm on about when it comes to editability [15:11:47] "Automated way"? Do you mean by using AI? [15:11:50] https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-fnaf-movie-william-afton-five-nights-at-freddys-fnaf-2-movie-gif-9452479965221894980 [15:11:52] ai would be most likely [15:12:01] Oh my god bruh [15:12:02] but it has its problems for sure [15:12:12] Don't be like fandom [15:12:13] there is not a perfect solution on the table at all [15:12:21] yeah, to be honest i'd understand ai as long the translators such as me, can intervene if necessary [15:12:27] that'd be a proposal i'm find supporting [15:12:52] if this option exists - then it would negate mostly all of the bad effects [15:14:05] [1/2] 'just let us translate everything' is fine for whatever period the couple of people at a given time who may be able to audit a language and hopefully catch up to every change that should be made despite the complexity introduced to those pages, but when it really is extremely patchwork who does any kind of translation, when it is difficult to properly audit them and also maintain the [15:14:05] [2/2] practice that exists of avoiding ai translation, and when there is such a disconnect between disparate translators and other senior volunteers/meta admins who should oversee them, you can see why it gets a bit messy [15:15:35] an interim answer as fearless suggests with ai could be a way to mitigate some part of the problem, actually keeping translations consistently up to date with human supervision, though it would leave auditability and page complexity as issues [15:18:34] Im always afraid imma break something on pages with translate tags…. Lol [15:18:42] auditability will always an issue that can't avoided and supervisors like meta admins will have to use ai translation to confirm because the only other options are literally just learn the language or "know it already" [15:19:10] I don't think it particularly matters on a relatively stable page like the FAQ, but if all the how-to guides were like this it would significantly raise the barrier to being able to change or improve anything [15:19:40] this has been a long standing trouble because for the longest time we have and I believe we still have a practice of refusing even ai assisted translation and giving people trouble for using it extensively even with review instead of hand craft [15:19:49] and that may well be something to change [15:19:58] maybe it has and I haven't been paying enough attention, someone can correct me [15:20:15] this is my chief concern opening translation to wherever on meta [15:20:19] ai is probably good, 80-95% of the time, the 5% is the problem that i think we can definitely deal with [15:20:22] many things are or at least should be wip [15:20:41] i wouldn't mind reviewing, confirming, and changing the 5% problem rather then the 100% [15:21:00] it is rather demotivating to adjust a page when you have an entire layer of fragile tags to deal with on top of a page that maybe needs to be reconstructed to fit better [15:21:41] wait, tagging isn't automatic? [15:21:45] i never realized this [15:21:49] so that is really the main reason behind the limitation in scope, as for ai, that is part of the scalability of review [15:21:58] which can be improved if the stance on ai was relaxed [15:22:32] tagging may well be automatic but that's irrelevant if you're coming in post tagging and trying to modify sections or layout [15:22:48] its not immediately clear how to handle that stuff when someone reasonably has regular mediawiki editing in mind [15:23:27] i hope the translation extension gets updated [15:23:31] by whoever makes it [15:23:56] and i'd like to see it being added into meta/mh's option of extensions for wikis [15:24:05] would be a life and time saver [15:24:15] its in the list isn't it [15:24:28] as for updating it idk how it could really change how it works without rebuilding [15:24:36] in some way that doesn't mark up the source page heavily [15:25:51] if the extension did not frankly mutilate the source page with tag complexity then 90% of my personal problem with it would be eliminated [15:26:37] add an allowance for ai assisted translation and a reliable crew that keeps up on it that's a bit stronger than our patchwork of people over time (and admittedly if we just had a saner setup, we'd be more encouraging for people to get into it) then the problem could be outright solved [15:27:08] the problem is the people who edit sadly, the translators like me doesn't have much problems [15:27:12] other then making it previewable [15:27:25] and the edits are generally what these pages really need [15:27:39] more imo than translation which I consider a courtesy and not per se a core service although people can see it differently [15:27:55] definitely not a core service imo [15:27:58] it's qol [15:28:07] but shouldn't affect how the site works in general [15:28:27] how fast would the volunteers be on board with getting a translation extension that solves all of these problems lol... [15:28:28] and when that qol causes substantive difficulties for volunteer management and for regular editing, it becomes what it currently is, which is why it is currently in an unhappy medium state [15:28:44] if we had a translate extension that leaves source pages alone I'd be all over it [15:29:01] who makes the translation extension btw [15:29:10] wmf? [15:29:25] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate [15:30:09] I wonder if this is something MediaWikis MCR could solve [15:30:45] (surely not though someone would've likely done it already) [15:32:30] [1/2] oh cool lol [15:32:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1468992691730780211/5B1E8AD9-18A2-4588-B2FF-E906ACE92DBE.png?ex=6986098e&is=6984b80e&hm=696d05b1346997f76e8f26911c09da187037f5eb858e0e1e2bf40fcfaae00a1e& [15:34:10] [1/2] where can i contact these people... [15:34:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1468993109106098344/21B53EEF-8832-464B-A061-0197A24B9BD9.png?ex=698609f1&is=6984b871&hm=55b45d37587ba12b6d0a2b74d8265490c90d377e6d7b28c49c65d3cee2c9ed3d& [15:34:22] so they can be aware of the problem 😭 [15:49:32] Same place all bugs can be reported @justanotherdarkmodeuser [15:49:40] The extension page will even have a link to it [16:25:31] btw is the book good [16:25:57] i get pretty much discouraged when the few pages of the book is just maps, i want to read words not maps lol [16:26:19] understandable but i want to dive without knowing anything, if need be i can look at it later [18:20:06] what browsers do you all use? I personally use both Firefox and MEdge [18:21:21] librewolf, helium, play with some other ones not limited to brave, vivaldi, tor, mullvad and some other rarer stuff [18:22:13] Never heard of Heliun, Vivaldi, Tor, and Mullvad [18:22:28] What are the other "rarer stuff", you say? [18:23:06] minimalist chromium, chromium with a lot of extra bells and whistles, leading privacy browser based on firefox, and a similar very close second privacy browser [18:23:39] What are your thoughts on Microsoft Edge? [18:23:50] Honestly it's a good browser... if they didn't make it shit [18:24:49] rarer entries include ungoogled chromium, cromite on android, I actually do use ironfox android, fennec android (another firefox), have looked at but don't really use floorp (a vivaldi firefox), zen (firefox with a very odd ui), am interested in but have not tried orion [18:25:28] edge offers nothing I want, has more baked in nonsense than I care to deal with, and is a microslop production that I don't like supporting on principle, but in objective fact you could do worse [18:25:40] between chrome, opera and edge, edge has the edge for me [18:26:02] That's a nice pun lmao [18:26:08] lol [18:26:11] same here [18:31:31] [1/2] 😭 steward is a role i doubt even tali (pretty sure they're a long time ga) could get in imo [18:31:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1469037741516783727/C4CED891-2B12-4A83-845D-EEE276E1F693.png?ex=69863382&is=6984e202&hm=a1e9dc4add04f8d55091c87e79bbd6a34c852a6316e10e416f291c9a0a0025a1& [18:42:11] Tali has been a round a fair bit but not really long time [18:43:10] mhm, and I have pretty clear reasons on why I would oppose him going for a higher role like AS [18:43:25] I can dm if need be, it's just that it's a T&S problem [18:43:27] 18 months [18:43:39] You are more than welcome to DM [18:43:51] oh boy would I love to hear about that [18:43:58] I'm not aware of any T&S issues but I don't think I'd support them [18:47:28] i'll share to you after i share to rhinos, quite the mess lol [18:54:06] Skye is aware [18:54:30] word do spread fast in the volunteering community.. [18:57:22] now om.curipus [18:59:04] You don't need to be [18:59:15] I'm going to suggest that one is brought to a quick conclusion [19:00:51] !purge 7 [19:00:58] nice one skye [19:01:01] ?purge 8 [19:01:05] crying [19:01:23] hm? [19:01:45] do you guys..not...know...how to use purge? [19:02:07] dyno may be asleep [19:02:49] lemme run for Discord Admin and i'll revamp this server 👀 (/half joking) [19:03:11] Don't think we're ready for that [19:03:23] yeah i'm half joking [19:03:37] i do have the skills to do so, but theres no need to do it [19:04:42] it also depends what needs to be revamped exactly as well [19:04:48] moderation? channels? permissions? [19:05:14] nothing needs revamping [19:05:52] anyways [19:06:01] i suppose i understand why the messages got deleted [19:06:08] it just pains me to see mods not using purge [19:06:17] Move on please [19:06:25] so uh, hows your day [19:06:44] I still have the flu [19:07:19] damn, that sucks... [19:07:27] i should get to sleeping, at least it's not a school night to me [19:07:30] 2 am [19:09:55] cwan i bwe swteward plzzz 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺 [19:10:57] No. Go touch gras.. [19:12:24] impossible [19:13:25] "still would recommend reading a book, holding a real conversation, anything that involves breaking that bubble that lobotomizes your ability to engage substantially with things" [19:13:31] using raidaar's words [19:13:50] but damn it goes hard lol [19:14:12] where did he say that 😭 [19:14:24] gawd damn [19:23:39] wikioasis discord server [19:31:39] Let's be nice, folks. We were all young once. [19:32:44] i was using raid's words, but alright... [19:33:02] Was more referring to the earlier bit of the convo [19:33:11] oh alright [19:39:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1469054761579053204/IMG_1427.jpg?ex=6986435c&is=6984f1dc&hm=a8c8f7a1ab8b657dc8b566fc1b491035069d84680e79ba4a747492dc038a71ef& [19:55:55] dawg!!! [19:56:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1469059198200316170/WIN_20260205_14_56_14_Pro.jpg?ex=6986477e&is=6984f5fe&hm=5002a254c9f77c80fa89f8aace528636ca341803d082f8a76513e086d96bc26b& [20:36:56] Discord is a delete-first, delete-forever service without basically no option for data recovery. As much as we love and trust our moderator team, we also restrict tools that could easily function as server WMDs. [20:51:30] Oh hey, Hank and John Green are relinquishing control of Complexly and it's reincorporating as a nonprofit. Neat! [20:51:46] what's complexly again [20:51:56] SciShow, Crash Course, etc. [20:52:06] ooooooooooooooo [20:52:09] awesome [20:52:19] YOO [20:52:34] love scishow when i was younger [20:53:07] Yeah, very natural transition, 100% in character with how they've always operated/the brothers Green run their other operations [20:53:33] https://youtu.be/eziN5NJBI5U?si=pB7-s2qJyKhl79j9 if folks want to hear specifics [20:54:45] Wonder how big a backup of the discord would be [21:03:39] No idea, there aren't any first-party ways to do that. [21:04:01] But I imagine it'd be one big gnarly XML doc [21:04:24] + maybe a .tar file if it does save image/video/gif content [21:16:41] it is not rhetoric I would be inclined to bring into a community like this one [21:17:11] the fact is how spicy I am depends on the circles I am in at a given time and what flies on native reception wiki space or even oasis is not necessarily fit here [21:17:19] a good logging system will allow you to log mass deleted messages [21:17:58] such a logging system trusts third parties that are not themselves infallible either, and a bot's log can't replace a full discord channel [21:18:10] but i suppose carefulness first then bots [21:18:11] on that basis we're pretty much fully logged from the irc side already anyway [22:12:57] We have the wm-bot logs of some irc channels [22:13:22] I also have logs of every irc channel I've been in from every second I've been online [22:14:40] Including the non publicly logged channels [23:00:53] [1/2] I hate how in Fandomdesktop's mockup design it didn't even have an icon next to the PAGE TOOLS label in the right rail [23:00:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1469105530177065021/latest.png?ex=698672a5&is=69852125&hm=9b5d50c72ec70561d422e766f19c655f100272fee938edbdc2b4a3c8a8abea29& [23:00:57] amd even today it doesn't [23:01:06] can't be that hard to be consistent [23:27:45] That star icon must have been to add to watchlist, appears that didn't make it to the final product either lol [23:42:14] json [23:51:28] Could do a JSON as well, that makes more sense than what I said