[00:12:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> ya idk
[00:59:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <two_squar3d> hey guys
[00:59:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <two_squar3d> look under there
[01:00:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> who's steve jobs
[01:01:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> and why do we have a million of them
[01:31:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <enews, replying to bartomelow> [1/4] You can do it in photoshop: 
[01:31:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <enews, replying to bartomelow> [2/4] border radius ~20px 
[01:31:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <enews, replying to bartomelow> [3/4] shadow 
[01:31:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <enews, replying to bartomelow> [4/4] rotation & tilt
[01:31:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <enews> i think i used https://nize.pics
[01:31:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <enews> Idk if it still works anymore
[01:32:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> i must learn to do that one day
[01:35:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <enews> I recently had issues exporting content from that site tho
[02:14:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to two_squar3d> under what specific object
[05:48:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tpsciartmechphilo> Wassup guys
[05:49:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tpsciartmechphilo, replying to blankeclair> Afternyan~
[14:05:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1470420254390751405/Screenshot_2026-02-09_085655.png?ex=698b3b13&is=6989e993&hm=12206ff49fdd5d87ef049ca98af93ab3120de2e7186c482bf8c3d7a9ccd9a60c&
[14:05:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> im EVIL!!!
[14:05:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i love it when the sun turns evil
[14:11:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> free food too!
[14:12:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1470422021153226885/image_2026-02-09_091207439.png?ex=698b3cb8&is=6989eb38&hm=d500ca53ea68df207ebcb2fd22bf7d44da1ea764f0d52d71102770aaa54354f8&
[14:15:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man> finally something affordable(?) in this market
[17:33:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to bartomelow> I love how literally none of them are a part of irwa 😭
[17:34:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Get ready for someone to view your wiki using that one minecraft mod LOL
[17:43:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> We still see hits from the original wii browser
[17:44:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> That's insane wow
[17:54:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to notaracham> I think I saw a smart fridge in the UAs once
[18:07:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> If I could find the charger for my 2ds I could use that lol
[18:11:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> fun  things to spoof your UA to
[18:14:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justanotherdarkmodeuser> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnhNJc7LgkE not my best base slapper getting affected by old age nooo 😭
[18:14:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justanotherdarkmodeuser> respect to those who is ill, i don't think i can imagine my life as them
[19:52:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to zppix> Last month had 725k requests from Smart TVs and 21.5k from PlayStations
[19:53:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Most of the smart TVs were Samsung
[21:15:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> Smart fridge?
[21:15:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> 👀
[21:19:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to max20091> If it's got a recent enough browser, it should be able to access us fine
[21:20:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I see no reason why you can't access Miraheze on a smart fridge
[21:29:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @max20091 I have found requests from a Samsung Smart Fridge in our logs
[21:29:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Almost 1k a day
[21:29:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> 1k a day??
[21:29:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> About 2/3rds of that for images
[21:30:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If I exlude static and matomo, I get 8.8k last 30 days for 200 requests from a fridge
[21:30:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It does look like actual browsing too
[21:31:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Or at least someone with the UA of a fridge
[21:34:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to kai84> Ye
[23:07:56] <Frisk>	 Looking at recent Discord shenanigans, I'm glad Miraheze has IRC bridge, please keep running it
[23:08:25] <Frisk>	 (https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out for those unaware)
[23:08:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the bridge should be refreshed and expanded if anything
[23:08:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it is probably time I finally get into it properly again
[23:08:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> and work on making it a fully solvent resource for the volunteering side too
[23:09:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> though its probably more than I can chew for the immediate future unless it becomes a multi member project
[23:09:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_, replying to Frisk> Nice try, FBI!
[23:09:56] <Frisk>	 huh
[23:10:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> quoted your article link discord side
[23:10:23] <Frisk>	 oh
[23:12:14] <Frisk>	 Yeah, anyways, someone put it maybe a bit in harsh terms, but any project *requiring* use of Discord is basically saying to creatures papers please or you are not welcome. I would say it's pretty close to the truth tbh. There are a lot of projects that have communities only on Discord :(
[23:14:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it is the reason I'm rather discord centric despite knowing of alternatives
[23:14:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> but I've been figuring it will be time sooner or later to get into them
[23:14:46] <Frisk>	 And still no good age verification technology that would assure privacy, though gotta give EU credit for trying (https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/eu-age-verification), maybe it would even be good for EU citizens when it rolls out, still not 100% great but way better than anything else so far.
[23:15:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> miraheze is heavily dependent on discord operationally and does not have enough volunteer server bridges for irc to be viable there, and if you don't have discord as a volunteer in a majority of roles, you are isolated
[23:15:24] <Frisk>	 mmm, yeah, that sucks
[23:15:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> this is a distinct problem which we do kinda need to fix, sole exception being the domains with mattermost which I personally do not like to use
[23:15:47] <Frisk>	 I see
[23:16:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> having used it to the extent I have I find it clunky, I do not like how it tries to turn everything into a thread, layout's just odd, it fails to sell me oh and it likes to kick out my session so I have even less incentive to even log in there which is a running trend with platforms like this for me since I like to just lurk and not mess with logins on them
[23:17:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> there are some clients for irc, xmpp and matrix which seem neat but there isn't much I would consider overly end user friendly
[23:17:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the ones that are as far as setup tend to be wired for a 90s look which is niche at best
[23:17:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> The funny thing is that I hardly ever show my face or give my official documents to official government agencies... imagine how uncomfortable that makes me feel.
[23:18:32] <Frisk>	 i feel you
[23:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> the conglomerates can generally piece you together anyway because the US is a nightmare and collects every little thing to levels of detail you can scarcely imagine if  you aren't in the rabbit hole, but it really is the principle for me
[23:19:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> not discord's business, not their ass third party who's gonna get leaked's business, not gov's business
[23:19:46] <Frisk>	 raidarr: mmm, on minecraft.wiki we use Zulip bridged with Discord. Channels are threads basically. We are kinda using it not in a way it was designed to do but lol, works I guess and lets me volunteer.
[23:19:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> so I guess I should get into 'the lounge' and other such tools sooner than later and start working on getting them viable
[23:20:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> zulip is one I have heard good things about but used extremely little, mainly because no community I have an interest in exists there or would be bothered to host with it
[23:21:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> Oh, and I almost forgot. I have to be honest with you, I have never given out any information such as my real name and surname to any account I have created on many websites.
[23:21:04] <Frisk>	 I see, we as a public org got hosting free by Zulip company via their program for open source and other communities
[23:21:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> miraheze is the only substantial project I'm in where the IRC track is a viable thing and that viability is somewhat limited and not enough for me to really spend much time there
[23:21:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> a lot of what I'm into just isn't stuff that can live on gratis open source hosting etc
[23:21:44] <Frisk>	 makes sense
[23:22:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> one thing I'm rearing for is a really small scale discord for what is essentially a two person project and that's kinda it which has existed on a discord server because that's what worked for the other party and I don't have overhead with that
[23:22:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to raidarr> Mattermost creating a thread on click is a terrible design choice for someone like me who clicks randomly. Quote reply also doesn't exist which is disappointing.
[23:22:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yeah I just do not find mattermost very agreeable
[23:22:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> zulip, I might have to just try
[23:24:58] <Frisk>	 im happily chatting from Matrix with y'all, bridged with IRC acting as a bouncer. Lovely stuff honestly, not only I don't split into multiple applications for chatting but I get a very solid IRC bouncer with it :D
[23:25:23] <Frisk>	 too bad replying to Discord bridged messages isn't pretty
[23:25:37] <Frisk>	 it's all technically MirahezeRelay
[23:26:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to Frisk> [1/2] I was just looking at https://github.com/mc-wiki/discord-zulip-bridge and was surprised by how feature-complete it is. 
[23:26:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to Frisk> [2/2] The only downside is that I'd be using the same application to chat about work and Miraheze, which has already happened with Discord since lots of students prefer to chat on discord.
[23:27:29] <Frisk>	 lol
[23:28:55] <Frisk>	 idk, I'd rather use one application for all my chats given a chance and good interface to switch between "modes"
[23:29:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> The problem is corporatism; everyone wants their share. :/
[23:30:10] <Frisk>	 referring to network effect?
[23:31:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> Yes
[23:31:59] <Frisk>	 mhm
[23:32:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to raidarr> We used to use IRC exclusively for awhile
[23:32:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> Although I stand corrected, there are many variations of options.
[23:33:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I do remember talking to john and doug in particular on irc
[23:33:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> totally lost my irc creds and stuff but it could come back
[23:34:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ucronista_> Recuerdos ❤️