[00:54:27] [1/2] yay, it's in prod :3 [00:54:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1475294703288324177/1771808067185.png?ex=699cf6c2&is=699ba542&hm=c7efad3d16c88d37c76aebee454860732c87b9fd59a5cf1cf58bf38655fa88e1& [00:56:10] I like EmailUser... [00:56:16] yeah :( [00:56:19] "TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN." [00:56:27] sory i ate it [00:56:27] "THIS IS SYSADMIN SPEAKING." [00:56:29] but at least it's no longer an undescriptive Permission error [00:56:51] your next challenge is to make the ratelimit for requesting wikis more descriptive [00:57:00] task [00:57:03] [1/2] the wiki grind [00:57:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1475295356958019594/1771808220789.png?ex=699cf75e&is=699ba5de&hm=6849b460719663e0e3df36ebb6c0b99f35d21457a11b66afc676cfad96d4ecc5& [00:57:10] UserEmail is better than a Zoom meeting with corpo suits that have no idea how a wiki work. [00:57:11] aint one :( [00:57:22] idt anyone has bothered to make one [00:58:50] Y'all. Is Meatbun good place for domains? [00:59:42] you mean porkbun? [01:00:35] Regarding EmailUser, apart from Miraheze's “official” emails. Has it really been used between users? It's a question I had a few days ago. Maybe I talk too much. 😅 [01:01:11] [1/2] [Saturday, 14 December 2024] [13.56.20 Australian Eastern Daylight Time] > goes on porkbun [01:01:11] [2/2] [Saturday, 14 December 2024] [13.56.21 Australian Eastern Daylight Time] > " Try generating domain name suggestions using AI." [01:01:14] maybe they removed it, idk [01:02:17] i asked someone else about porkbun about a year ago, and she said that she found porkbun meh, since "They seem slow to respond to basic stuff" and "It took them weeks to set up my certificate" [01:02:26] latter prolly doesn't apply if you're doing everything yourself tho [01:02:46] i use https://glauca.digital, it's pricy but also gay [01:02:49] Has been used, yes [01:03:03] they... are also slow to respond to support requests though xD [01:03:05] Unfortunately it was between removal or forcing folks to verify ages [01:03:49] also, their dns server (hexdns) is so slow that i couldn't even provision a tls certificate via dns-01, so i switched nameservers [01:04:26] can we flame i mean inform users about the UK/AU laws a bit more please [01:04:38] up to you to update the wording [01:04:43] I'd rather we not [01:04:51] Though I get the rationale [01:05:01] i do feel that it could be longer, but i don't feel that i can do it neutrally [01:06:37] I see, I suppose it had an average usage, but it wasn't enough either. Right? [01:07:05] Not enough to force folks to disclose their information to a questionable third party for access. [01:07:25] randomly reminded me [01:07:34] [1/3] Talking abt https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/443926951292567562/1475227605136576633 [01:07:35] [2/3] Some uh, specimens are certainly fascinating, that is for sure... [01:07:35] [3/3] I wonder what incentivies them to do all of this - do they just have that much free time? Or they genuinely find entertainment from doing so... [01:07:52] Off topic because it is off topic :3 [01:07:53] is my PR to implement that one bit of DP policy from an RfC years ago still up and unmergedi wonder [01:08:11] i'd rather reverse engineer a game than verify my age to join the game's discord server [01:08:12] so y'know [01:08:27] at least it was a fun exercise in figuring out how sugarcube stores data x3 [01:08:42] ahahah... https://github.com/miraheze/CreateWiki/pull/605 [01:09:10] not only the oldest open PR, but exactly 100 before the second oldest PR [01:09:14] thats wild [01:09:18] broken tests [01:09:21] im such a clown sometimes [01:09:53] related [01:10:49] :wikipetan: [01:10:53] historical tests [01:14:26] > Rest in peace our 10k badge. [01:17:20] [1/2] fuck it im gonna be evil [01:17:20] [2/2] -# in oxenfree [01:17:42] [1/2] and make everyone angry at me [01:17:42] [2/2] -# in oxenfree [01:19:15] im gonna feel so bad [01:19:17] 😔 [01:54:09] Yes ma'am. [01:54:46] I don't mind gay but pricey is a huge hell no for me. [01:54:51] Corpo execs hate pricey. [01:54:53] They want cheap. [01:54:59] ow [01:55:08] I don't make the rules. [01:55:14] i know [01:55:16] 😔 [01:55:16] but still ow :( [01:55:22] Plus I need to make profit. [01:55:29] I'd use it if it's for me. [01:55:38] But doing webhost for corpos. [01:55:46] They just want it cheap. [01:56:08] I asked around and they all recommended me porkbun. [01:56:40] In my case. I don't really have to give a crap about the support cause once I set up the website. The Corpo will handle it themselves. [01:56:48] They have a IT department for a reason. [01:58:03] porkbun is alright then [02:03:04] [1/3] finally [02:03:04] [2/3] paywalled 2fa [02:03:05] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1475311972114239530/1771812185535.png?ex=699d06d8&is=699bb558&hm=d85ede530a31a9c8584213df2cea983fa189dddb44b846a3d25b470491321068& [02:04:30] wtf [02:04:40] this is some cyberpunk-ass shit [02:37:39] You got any other recommendations, Claire? [02:37:47] not really [02:37:59] I used to use Google but you know what happened. [02:38:09] ow lol [02:38:13] Never tried GoDaddy but I was told they had a stigma. [02:38:25] Yup. Learned to never trust google ever since. [02:38:35] something something killed by google [02:38:36] Still recommend GoogleDrive plans to corporate cause it's good money. [02:38:52] Plus, trying to convince them superior cloud-storage is fucking impossible. [02:39:02] Now that I think of it, Vector2022 is quite similar to Timeless with important.stuff being at both sides [02:39:07] still an ass skin to me [02:39:08] "They're not really well-known. Don't you think?" [02:39:25] >Some corpo exec told me after I recommended them obscure cloud storage provider. [02:40:18] Lord forbid them using MEGA Or Pcloud. [02:42:34] I agree. [02:42:39] I prefer stuff to be on one side only. [02:42:49] And editing common.css is a pain in the arse. [02:49:25] tbh i like having them on both sides [02:50:24] Fair. [02:50:36] It is nice of Miraheze to offer a lot of skins. Imo. [02:50:50] I do IT works for corpos and I never have time to add in other skins. [02:50:55] They just want one and be done with it. [02:51:03] Which is usually vector. [03:35:49] r/assholedesign has a post on this. I hate that. [04:07:51] Mexico now is fornite battle royal bruh 😭 [04:09:32] Getting taken out by Mexican food would be wild. [04:33:09] Average 3rd world experience. [05:20:20] honestly, i see fandom's vision of having one skin for all of the wikis they host [05:22:43] That's FandomDesktop. [06:18:12] [1/2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Flexdream [06:18:13] [2/2] never have i felt sorry to someone as this guy [06:28:06] joined 2006? wtf? [06:29:44] like [06:41:03] the Miraheze Wikipedia article was unfortunately redirected to "Wiki hosting service" [06:41:12] yeah [06:41:18] we still do have [[w:Draft:Miraheze]] tho [06:41:18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Miraheze [06:42:13] one day that article will exist [06:42:18] in everyone's soul [06:42:41] wiki.gg doesn't have an article [06:42:43] only fand*m [06:42:53] Of course... [06:44:59] but hey [06:45:12] fand*m's article has like a big-ass controversies section lol [06:45:17] 🤦 [06:45:28] I just saw someone decided to throw in their own mascot [06:45:47] Wow. [06:46:04] that's funny [06:46:13] It's big as Roblox's, and that's whole different kettle I'd not dive into. [06:48:04] [1/2] @wickerbasket2540 name this thing [06:48:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1475383693584367626/image.png?ex=699d49a3&is=699bf823&hm=a18f5a4b2ba68f0e8b619286505b458f26ab1c6652db27a8f3adaa7e89f871b3& [06:48:13] I personally call them: the 16 wikis of humanity [06:50:27] [1/4] weird gloop: 6 [06:50:27] [2/4] wiki.gg: 4 [06:50:27] [3/4] abxy: 2 [06:50:28] [4/4] independent: 4 [06:50:40] miraheze: 0 :c [06:51:00] the falcom wiki is on miraheze but they left that out for some reason [06:51:36] we also had the l4d wiki migrate to us but that isnt as high profile these days [06:51:44] l4d? [06:51:47] left 4 dead [06:51:50] oh [06:51:54] the state of valve wikis is interesting in general [06:51:59] https://twelveworlds.net/ [06:52:05] would fallout count as independent 🤔 [06:52:13] or no [06:52:21] i love how a tf2 youtuber i'm subscribed to just transitioned, and barely addressed it [06:52:35] icon [06:52:54] like "oh btw, i'm a girl now!", and moved on [06:53:11] only ones that are truly "independent" among those wikis mentioned above are undertale/deltarune [06:53:56] i cant wait for wiki.gg to be another gamepedia [06:54:16] perhaps we should make our own version [06:54:47] [1/2] trangener! [06:54:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1475385382924456008/1771829685301.jpg?ex=699d4b36&is=699bf9b6&hm=fac1639f08676493182b1abd0ab360399fbf5588a540fed7370c71197221fb51& [06:55:04] so like fando- [06:56:48] and the cycle continues [06:56:50] :c [06:57:11] i think it would be really funny if we made a fandom clone that makes fun of it by being outrageously greedy with monetization and AI slop [06:57:29] that'd be a good april fools prank lol [06:57:39] maybe we can launch Orain Pty Ltd. [06:57:43] oh my god lmfao [06:57:59] 72 unskippable ads with a 1 pixel close button [06:58:08] if wiki.gg gets merged into fandom, i'm immediately moving away all of my wiki.gg wikis from the platform on day 1 unconditionally [06:58:52] mmmmm yum fresh wikis [06:58:59] yeah [06:59:33] not gonna let fandom profit off of gobbling up all those wikis into their ad hell [06:59:33] as always I'm exaggerating but I do fear that happening at some point [06:59:48] i loveeeee being a for profit company [07:00:02] let's hope that day never comes [07:00:45] i'm happy with the switch for each of my wikis there and i'll do anything to not let fandom profit off of it [07:07:18] amen [07:50:52] Stuff like Fandom is why I self host - never know if a wiki platform will go underside-up [07:57:01] we'd consider self-hosting if it didn't minimise our bus factor further ^^; [08:16:21] Self-hosting is a great option, but I'd be concerned about its longevity if I wasn't the one hosting the wiki. Where would you be in 5 years? What if you don't have the funds or even the time to keep the wiki up and running? 🤔 [08:18:47] atp italian brainrot wiki,even if miraheze deletes it [08:18:52] is never getting removed off the internet [08:18:55] at least most the pages [08:19:00] there are like 5000 forks [08:19:27] I plan to self host on a proper server if I have money - but rn I use my own computer - and I back up to like 7+ places [08:19:35] I plan to self host on a proper server if I have money - but rn I use my own computer - and I back up to like 7+ places [08:20:55] Yeah you told me about someone copying off some of the pages there to Fandom without attribution [08:21:00] Like a few months ago [08:21:10] mhm also saw other wikis doing it [08:21:12] Sounds good to me [08:21:15] Also, I plan to pay to put my wiki on the blockchain [08:21:25] theres probably a few on fandom still [08:21:37] Like I said before, stability should be the #1 concern of a wiki imo [08:22:04] such as the-world-of-italian-memes.fandom.com/wiki/Italian_Brainrot_home [08:22:06] So that it doesn't close off [08:22:08] I would say at my scale, my wiki is quite stable - well, as long as the support workers do not turn my computer off [08:23:32] This isn't much of a concern for larger and more active self-hosted and mh wikis of course, I'm talking more about ones administrated or edited by like 1 or 2 ppl [08:24:06] I do sit online basicly all day - I only leave to eat, use the loo, get food/drink, and talk to my support workers [08:24:22] But yes, a risk to my wiki is "support workers" [08:34:50] Do you think WikiDot or ShoutWiki will one day be 404'ed (dead)? [08:43:01] yes [08:46:17] How soon do you think? [08:46:23] nerds are backing wikis up to IA, so you'll probably be fine [08:46:31] you can be the nerd yourself as well :p [08:46:39] I back up to like 7 clouds + IA [08:47:25] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [08:47:31]