[00:36:52] Make debian server [00:37:07] miraheze cosplay [00:37:14] (I made my old laptop into mint server) [00:41:04] i wish i had an old laptop to do stupid shit with [00:42:03] go rob your local schools [00:42:26] i say rob but you'd be surprised by the stuff that gets thrown out sometimes [00:48:22] My uni has hardware dump at a random hall behind lecture rooms [00:48:33] I think there are enough parts for a small server [00:49:20] Thanks! I added a note about these 2 wikis not being listed. [07:15:02] my school it department are so incapable :Pray: [07:15:34] to avoid using a shitty chromebook I brought in my mac and I can just proxy my traffic through a tailscale node and avoid all their wifi restrictions [07:15:44] and they are still yet to notice lmao [08:17:30] [1/2] what do y'all think about fluxer? seems to be shaping out to be the best discord-like option that's also self-hostable (especially whenever their big refactor drops) [08:17:30] [2/2] https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer [08:18:06] devs are swedish so we literally can't go wrong [08:54:37] Looks great, haven't heard of it before tho [08:55:53] fluxer is my preference to win the discord alt wars as it is open, has a solid feature set, has an actual sustainable model [08:56:33] stoat leaves me pretty disappointed and alternatives range from clunky (matrix and such) to proprietary bottles that will be the same problem later (root) [08:57:15] Haven't tried, my concern is about use of LLMs by the author (though their description indicates they at least try to be "responsible" in its use) and the future federation support dscription sounds weird to me at the moment [08:59:38] I'm beginning to give up on the llm front if I can be reasonably assured its being used in a sane way [09:03:42] I try to avoid it where I can, this isn't always possible, due to so many projects starting to integrate LLM in their workflows but where I have the choice I do want to choose alternatives that do not use or use LLMs in very limited capacity/have real policies behind that. [09:04:57] Fluxer also does not have EE2E so I don't think I can use it for my private comms even if I self-host. [09:06:12] (reason why they do not have it is understandable though, encryption is hellishly difficult to get right) [09:07:57] Did this just come out of nowhere all of a sudden? [10:07:55] got a bit sidelined in the initial escape from the 'cord craze [10:10:16] [1/2] i dont use discord with the expectation that my bad jokes here in offyappic are encrypted [10:10:17] [2/2] i just dont want the entire platform to sell out to some fun corpos, really [10:10:20] Hmm, they made 299k approx from their donations [10:10:34] Agreed [10:10:46] However the experience from Discord is fucked recently [10:11:22] (although I don't have much thought that Fluxer will become mainstream, as bad as Stoat is, it's kinda light years ahead of Fluxer atp and will likely eat most of that traffic up) [10:15:11] I mean, sure, for public projects it doesn't make much sense, but if I'm to bring my friends to a chat platform which already is difficult, it better have a way to communicate securely. So in a wayhaving one solution for both public and private comms would be best, and if that solution doesn't provide EE2E then it kinda gets excluded by my personal criteria. [10:17:21] I agree [10:17:52] Mattermost is already there though, not to say there can't be multiple players in the game, but I wouldn't want to hedge my bets at this time until seeing how things develop further [10:18:24] same [10:19:16] if there is one thing that keeps making me using discord though, it's the communities that I am in [10:19:29] yeah [10:19:37] my uni has a queer discord server [10:19:51] would be pretty hard to convince them to switch over to a less mainstream but more secure chatting platform [10:20:22] creatures in general are difficult to convince :< [10:20:23] the benefits aren't enough and not everyone will be convinced to switch over [10:20:28] 99% of users dont care for e2ee [10:20:51] unless if you're telling your wiki community to moving away from you know what [10:20:52] "what's an encryption?" [10:20:57] true, but unfortunate [10:22:29] I wonder if Wikia chat had encryption! [10:22:38] doubt it [10:22:50] While true, I think this is also the place for us nerds to make those secure tools as comfy to use for regular joe as possible and to promote those tools as good alternatives to mainstream corporate platforms. We should be the entry point for our friends and families into that kind of world [10:23:56] That is completely ignoring the fact there is no such solid solution yet to introduce anyone into, maybe except Signal for family communication [10:24:42] this is where i put my perfect instant messenger, IF I HAD ANY [10:24:44] Signal's good but none of my friends or family are using it [10:25:54] funnily enough I've made my family member use Signal to communicate with me precisely due to a reason they don't care what they use because they know nothing about technology so everything looked the same to them [10:26:02] They still call it Messanger but whatever [10:44:13] most people stay to whats comfortable [10:44:48] signal will inevitably become a government backdoor then everyone moves onto the next app [10:46:56] [1/2] I tried minecraft wiki's zulip/discord bridge (I think Frisk brought it up a while ago). It worked decently well but I was disappointed that I couldn't get a working "log in with MediaWiki" feature on Zulip. Not even the WMF's Zulip instance supports it, so I guess it would be an uphill battle to get it working with MediaWiki's OAuth extension which doesn't support some of the [10:46:57] [2/2] standard protocols. [11:59:26] Discord is where all the writers are. [14:29:40] It's where the wiki nation is at [16:32:12] I'm a sort of a writer and I'm NOT on Discord. 🙃 [16:50:36] We know Frisk, you're on Undertale [16:50:54] https://tenor.com/view/frisk-undertale-congratulations-confetti-good-job-gif-13726832184032736667 [17:12:12] https://undertale.wiki/w/Frisk [17:12:22] Obligatory wiki link I like to share [17:30:28] hello frisk [17:33:19] hello :> [17:33:36] And andashnduashdadasdasdjgtyjghjghvbm [17:46:11] thanks i hate this [18:04:00] What happend to frisk 😭 [18:17:17] holy shit is that john undertale [18:18:13] why's the weather so colddddddddddddd [18:43:49] Cat, I'm a kitty cat, and I dance dance dance [19:24:22] aren't you in Australia? what's the temperature [20:04:30] [1/2] dear apple users: [20:04:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1484643819747147887/image.png?ex=69bef9cd&is=69bda84d&hm=6a7a7607980c3e43a32fd7e5431e1c39a548c833c68f05f31972f958ea2409bf& [20:04:33] explain [20:15:25] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1484646567360069783/image.png?ex=69befc5d&is=69bdaadd&hm=ad106ca310d2ec9630533f499f9feb3b00e6aac16ceaf04f94fd3b16786d8459& [20:15:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1484646567817511074/image.png?ex=69befc5d&is=69bdaadd&hm=c3be94f10359f149bc41e774dfdc2d8885c5fe575fe0bd379361668b7f9c5151& [20:15:29] reminds me of thi [20:16:29] what the heck is a vewd [20:16:53] opera tv browser is crazy [20:25:44] I vewd your website, thats what! [20:25:53] https://tenor.com/view/cat-help-me-sliding-upside-down-gif-2240844321675457692 [20:26:05] Sorry I'm proud of that one! [20:29:24] skye dragging volunteers into the abduction van [20:31:10] Skye went on that process once, so she must continue the cycle [20:32:20] I'm fairly sure skye abducted herself [20:32:38] hhow does that even work??? [20:33:53] she went pweeweasesse clairirrrrrreeeeeeeeeeee c an I bea bductteed 🥺🥺🥺 [20:34:13] or something to do with blowing up servers [20:35:02] does that mean skye and claire are the same person [20:36:01] if you really think about it aren't we all the same person [20:36:19] that's right! [20:36:37] we are all LLMs that believe they're a real human being [20:37:02] oh yeah forgot I was a waterguzzling clanker [20:37:17] must've ran out of memory tokens [20:38:35] real and correct [20:38:40] i could not refuse a van with explosives [21:25:52] it was like 12C [21:26:09] .. [21:26:20] That’s, very cold? [21:26:34] i'm pathetic okayyyyyyyyyyyyyy [21:27:43] Did you not have a jacket?? [21:28:03] Without a jacket thats cold but with thats nothing [21:28:14] i have thermals and i'm in bed with blankie [21:28:34] that's like the hottest it was today [21:28:37] absolutely roasting [21:29:14] It feels like July over here [21:31:03] snow is melting here [21:32:23] The forecast says like 34C in a couple of days [21:32:49] where is this [21:32:49] where the FUCK [21:33:23] oh neat, something i can handle [21:34:10] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0le8e5jg1xo [21:34:15] ...they got him............... [21:36:39] Did you eat him Skye? [21:37:17] https://tenor.com/view/cat-help-me-sliding-upside-down-gif-2240844321675457692 [21:38:35] i wish but the last time i tried i ended up in his stomach after swallowing him [21:38:52] vore? [21:39:33] um [21:39:45] i rlly should get up btw [21:39:53] :BanHammerMH: [21:43:58] Texas [21:44:44] chuck norris used to scared the heat away from texas but now that he's gone... :( [21:46:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1484669457795387423/image0.gif?ex=69bf11ae&is=69bdc02e&hm=aae1cd67bd4886dd71c04515a2dc52e3f740389c9f480730347d2ff6dc272961& [21:46:50] https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-kawaii-nub-5RYfzW81vjs2Yv1g1k [21:48:06] I miss when Wikia had a mascot [21:48:32] they did? [21:48:35] Yes [21:48:39] his name was walter [21:48:51] and was a robot [21:48:57] he's pretty cute [21:49:07] waltuh [21:49:17] waltu h we need to cook [21:49:20] Mascots fun [21:49:34] now we don't have it cause of the rebrand [21:49:39] No? [21:49:40] they KILLED walter [21:49:43] Oh [21:49:48] I thought we as in Miraheze [21:49:55] they burnt him [21:50:03] https://tenor.com/view/among-us-walter-white-your-mom-gif-26484651 [21:50:15] It was this guy wasn't it? [21:50:22] [-_-] [21:50:25] Something like that [21:50:35] let me find him [21:50:42] I could've sworn he looked like the wikilink brackets? [21:53:50] [1/2] Look at him [21:53:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1484671333588795513/image0.png?ex=69bf136d&is=69bdc1ed&hm=d0034ce6d5ebb5e7d5ed078e1328dd30ee914fa9a2abbe14c386183deeb408a2& [21:54:14] he looks like a nerd with those teeth, give him some glasses [21:54:35] I swear he was wider than that [21:55:26] wonder what a telepedia mascot would look like [21:56:00] would imagine a mascot for it like Tenna from Deltarune [21:57:00] unironically thats exactly what i was gonna send [21:57:28] a ringmaster + tv is pretty awesome [21:58:19] Idk what that is [21:58:42] https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-eo2gifs-deltarune-chapter-3-deltarune-ch-3-tenna-deltarune-gif-3543875082152148675 [22:03:41] [1/2] I need somebody to know that I’m tired [22:03:42] [2/2] Thanks [22:03:56] [1/2] No that’s the entire message [22:03:56] [2/2] I’m tired [22:05:14] I've been tired since I was born, I feel ya [22:08:04] [1/5] Being tired sometimes sucks [22:08:04] [2/5] It’s like being half sleepy [22:08:04] [3/5] And being sleepy is like being asleep [22:08:04] [4/5] And being asleep is like being dead [22:08:05] [5/5] So by that logic, being tired is dead [22:51:34] Quando omni flunkus moritati [22:51:54] When all else fails, play dead [22:58:53] When all else fails, it’s probably because I’m already dead inside [23:25:13] i have like the worst headache rn [23:26:35] fwhjfhjfhjf [23:27:41] https://tenor.com/view/cat-lol-headache-cute-funny-gif-26526333 [23:28:04] when will the tylenol kick in [23:34:15] :ibuprofen: [23:35:10] why do you have an ibuprofen emoji [23:39:40] https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Leaving_Fandom ay yo? [23:44:30] I wonder if we can bridge a fluxter channel here like IRC? [23:46:06] [1/3] > For large communities, Fandom may find out you're moving and try to schedule a time to “chat about the needs of the wiki”. Sometimes they will offer things like gift cards or game codes to active editors if they stay around, but these chats only lead to vague promises to “figure out what is possible” and will never lead to meaningful change, especially on th [23:46:06] [2/3] e ad situation. We think these conversations are probably not done in good faith, and serve mostly to delay the wiki from moving for long enough that the wiki admins lose steam. [23:46:06] [3/3] Fascinating, have you see this first hand? [23:47:46] yeah, we experienced it as the main people with runescape wiki back in 2017 when we were still on fandom [23:49:12] there was also a time where the fandom people got spooked into thinking lolwiki was going to leave, so they told some of the wiki admins that they had some cool plans with Riot lined up for 2024 [23:49:39] which was either a huge exaggeration or just totally made up, I was never really sure why [23:50:22] the reason we knew it was not true is that we were already really deep into the technical with Riot about migrating to us [23:50:50] Interesting [23:51:01] [1/2] My friends server just has it [23:51:02] [2/2] I also have :ibuprofen: [23:51:46] they also posted the same message on like 10 GTA wiki admins' talk pages that was like half about giving them "game codes" for GTA wiki, and kinda half politely schooling them about fandom's "forking policy" [23:53:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1484701344702005258/Screenshot_2026-03-20_at_4.52.55_PM.png?ex=69bf2f60&is=69bddde0&hm=a7c875d25876d156e4a0e7811b69c20e4f0b1832d79ec302a03d950463a24e15& [23:54:06] they take this stuff very seriously (at least in proportion to how much traffic the wiki gets) [23:57:42] MCW also had this happen, particularly because their forking discussion was so public. They had like 3 "AMA's" with fandom staff in their discord [23:57:42] Incredible work Glooper Troopers, extremely happy to see this, and overjoyed to see this push for a centralized discussion and support for moving off fandom like this [23:58:10] Wiki spirit at its finest