[00:13:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to m6ga> [1/3] I'm seeing lag only on Chrome but not Firefox. It also only occurs on wider screens.
[00:13:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to m6ga> [2/3] I suspect that a `transform` somewhere is affecting performance.
[00:13:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to m6ga> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1491591758801272882/image.png?ex=69d84093&is=69d6ef13&hm=200f78e24a4eaa11fecdd402db1c0b87aa7efce984c94a3a9b115df104c628d4&
[00:26:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> what the fuck?? copilot keeps redownloading itself without my permission (windows 10)
[00:27:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Fucked up
[00:32:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga> Windows 10 has copilot what
[00:32:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> Not surprised...
[00:33:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <m6ga, replying to posix_memalign> Could it be the bg image? I am only using firefox so I never notices any issues
[00:33:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [1/2] anyways i downloaded TaskBarX, is it safe?
[00:33:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1491596943196028988/image.png?ex=69d84567&is=69d6f3e7&hm=73d8a58b2971bc52f3995fe3acacd3ca78315027a704a5bc0f9416c2f221db49&
[00:34:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to m6ga> yeah it does
[00:51:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> I'm a left-align taskbar all the way.
[00:52:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> -# not sure why windows wanted to "copy mac" with the center task bar tho but eh...
[00:53:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540> Left-align FTW.
[01:09:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to m6ga> [1/3] It's probably related to some a CSS animation somewhere. I'm not familiar with this aspect of profiling, so I can't narrow it down for you.
[01:09:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to m6ga> [2/3] I would recommend installing at least a Chromium-based browser and a Firefox-based browser on your dev machine so that you can test different configurations. This is what I preach though sometimes I fail to do it myself. 
[01:09:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to m6ga> [3/3] Safari tends to be more buggy than the other two and can be a major source of complaints, though it is also trickier to test if you don't own an apple device.
[01:18:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> never used it but I used windhawk years ago
[01:18:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to daforest> personally I prefer it because my screen is a bit wide and takes less movement to reach the icons
[01:20:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to daforest> Ngl, I like the centered task bar
[01:21:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> On wide screens, it's very annoying to get to those
[01:21:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> I have a standard 1920x1080 monitor, so to me it's just distracting
[01:24:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> I miss the Metro look Windows once had
[01:34:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> [1/2] whole time i thought the Pathfinder wiki was a form of Metro but it's apparently super customized Vector?
[01:34:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1491612215655137390/image.png?ex=69d853a1&is=69d70221&hm=35851769ca4823ba9ef48c6203df2446c1b52f0344d1db231736a73465b7eb62&
[01:36:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540> It's so clean.
[01:37:04] <Crystalite13>	 context?
[01:41:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to amelialoveheart> Wiki?
[01:42:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> https://pathfinderwiki.com/
[01:57:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to amelialoveheart> A heavily customised Vector 2022, I see.
[01:58:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> I couldn't really tell, the version just said Vector, but yeah it looks nice.
[01:58:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Yeah it's Vector 2022.
[02:01:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> translucenttb + centered taskbar is the closest to macOS experience
[02:01:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> (also it looks nice)
[02:02:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> there are still some metro-era screens that they haven't modified at all
[02:02:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> same happens with some windows 7 and windows xp style windows
[02:02:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> yeah the page actions under the title is a clear hint
[02:06:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to unai> Honestly, the OS Microsoft is making are just a bunch of old code stacked with new ones
[02:06:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> yeah the tradeoff of supporting tons of enterprise legacy software
[02:08:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Gosh, the metro style was so good.
[02:08:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> I miss it a lot.
[02:08:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> yeah it had some nice days but it was too breaking for its era
[02:09:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to unai> What do you mean?
[02:10:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> People were used to skeumorphism, aero, etc and Metro had a fundamentally different style, layout, and design guidelines
[02:10:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> also iirc it was riddled with bugs so that contributed to a negative sentiment
[02:11:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to unai> I dare say that I really disliked Aero.
[02:11:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> It just looked... weird to me.
[02:12:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> I loved it because flat design got overused and now website design looks really boring and generic
[02:12:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> It marked the end of an era
[02:13:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> But yes, a blend of fluent and metro would be nice
[02:13:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to unai> [1/2] Unfortunately. 
[02:13:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to unai> [2/2] -# citizen is an example of flat desi- 💥
[02:13:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> People hate change so it will be almost impossible to pull off
[02:13:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Flat design is most websites nowadays, right? Like YouTube, Facebook, hell, even Discord.
[02:14:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> Citizen breaks some UX guidelines by default
[02:14:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> But if you tame it it’s beautiful
[02:14:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to unai> What are the UX guidelines the Citizen skin breaks?
[02:15:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Windows 7 uses the Aero design, right?
[02:17:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> Discoverability of the hamburger menu instead of a vertical or a horizontal nav on desktop
[02:17:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> with higher interaction costs (you have to point to that little icon in the corner)
[02:18:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> also jakob’s law, people are already familiar with vertical nav on desktop
[02:18:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to unai> Never liked that, honestly.
[02:18:26] <Crystalite13>	 yum burger
[02:18:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> Fitt’s law and hick’s law too, to some degree
[02:18:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to unai> What are those?
[02:19:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> https://lawsofux.com
[02:19:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> (really good site)
[02:20:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> It was a deliberate design choice, which I respect, but I wish I didn’t have to rely on CSS hacks to make it visible
[02:21:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> Yup
[02:22:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> Started with Vista, I think
[02:22:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> Windows 8 made it flat with metro, the trend continued in 10 and 11 (fluent design) added some elements of it back with “mica”
[02:54:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [1/2] -# im not taking my sneakers off im sneakers o'toole...
[02:54:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> [2/2] I hate how that YTPMV is in my head.
[03:06:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tf2cutcontent.miraheze.org> Technoviking is forever in my head
[05:38:36] <Crystalite13>	 i had this sleeping gummy
[05:38:51] <Crystalite13>	 but I dunno if its placebo kinda thing or like but I'm really tired
[05:38:54] <Crystalite13>	 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[16:00:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Are the Codex icons "flat design", and is Vector 2022 "minimalism design"
[16:33:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [1/3] Getting my breaker box replaced today, one of the fuses for the old box looked like this :beebo_fear:
[16:33:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1491838423068180682/20260409_111235.jpg?ex=69d9264d&is=69d7d4cd&hm=3b63e0d233a50872da666bdccac9146d68fcbf9fed71d80a284d589ff46e7ab3&
[16:33:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1491838423831548096/20260409_111238.jpg?ex=69d9264d&is=69d7d4cd&hm=939bbf3b3c7c1039f4a06894a0ea9ef50dbb6f736b8b6fa1b9abd92c22a6ad1a&
[16:34:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crystalite13, replying to hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Fusetron…assemble!
[16:35:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crystalite13> Also hand reveal 🫢
[16:43:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> Bump
[16:48:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here, replying to crystalite13> Scandalous I know :angel:
[16:49:27] <Crystalite13>	 tsk tsk tsk
[16:49:32] <Crystalite13>	 the internet is a dangerous place
[16:49:45] <Crystalite13>	 we could find your uh exact location and date of birth!!!!!11
[16:55:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Can't believe you're gonna personally doxx me SMH my head /silly
[16:56:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crystalite13, replying to hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Knock knock knock
[17:04:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [1/2] Hey you wanna play Fluxx with us /j
[17:04:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> [2/2] (We have no power there is nothing to do but play board games lol)
[17:05:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crystalite13, replying to hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> https://tenor.com/view/fluxus-premium-fluxus-prem-flux-premium-flux-prem-no-fluxus-premium-gif-27179791
[17:05:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <crystalite13> What is a fluxx
[17:06:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> Card game where the goal and rules change constantly
[17:07:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> The cards have rules and goals and cards that if you have them and they match the goal you when
[17:08:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> https://www.looneylabs.com/games/fluxx
[17:54:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane, replying to bartomelow> Yes and yes
[21:36:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to janebuzjane> Makes sense
[21:37:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Are we able to add gradients to the icons?
[21:44:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <janebuzjane> Almost anything is possible with css~
[21:48:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> What is a "formal syntax"?
[21:57:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kellybrooksj326> discordapp.com/invite/hcQ4R7mP6x
[21:57:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Dyno#3861> @kellybrooksj326 No invite links.
[22:19:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart, replying to janebuzjane> Invent a spaceship that can fly to andromeda with css
[22:22:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> [[mh:battlecats:Andromeda (Cats of the Cosmos)]]
[22:22:37] <wm-bot>	 https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/battlecats:Andromeda_(Cats_of_the_Cosmos)
[22:22:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://battlecats.miraheze.org/wiki/Andromeda_(Cats_of_the_Cosmos)>
[22:51:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kellybrooksj326> discordapp.com/invite/hcQ4R7mP6x
[22:51:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Dyno#3861> @kellybrooksj326 No invite links.