[00:31:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [1/2] got bored
[00:31:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1505004606378344690/image.png?ex=6a090c43&is=6a07bac3&hm=c6cb74f8a044cbd1b569af64dc937f929805a8df81fb64e0d8c1df417588ec55&
[00:31:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> yelo
[01:17:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> You're giving me ideas to do it on my fanon wiki for the lulz.
[01:18:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to bartomelow> Very, but at least I didn't dump Refreshed in its entirety. Yet, if my Discord server complains, I'll set Refreshed to being the default once again.
[01:22:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here, replying to wickerbasket2540> Spreading my evil germs (ideas) /silly
[01:22:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540> Lol.
[01:31:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to wickerbasket2540> was there a reason on why you changed it?
[01:31:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to bartomelow> Nah. I did it while everyone was asleep, since I couldn't sleep.
[10:55:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISHneblVJYI
[10:55:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> this is cooll
[14:03:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tabby_Kitten_on_Blue_Throw.jpg#mw-jump-to-license
[14:11:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tangoer_man, replying to amelialoveheart> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982944904080687107/1322327279900168245/attachment.gif
[14:11:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Thank you
[15:34:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> css loops are real
[15:34:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> https://propjockey.github.io/doubledash.css/#repeat
[15:37:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> CSS iceberg chart meme
[15:41:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to kai84> We love a simplified counter, as long as it's performant.
[15:48:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to kai84> Will take MediaWiki millenia to support that
[15:48:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> so goddamn bored
[15:48:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> life's so boring when
[15:49:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> you're done with like
[15:49:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> entrance exams
[15:49:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd, replying to tangoer_man> WOHOOOO
[15:51:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to bartomelow> haha mediawiki still throws errors when nesting, this will never come
[15:51:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> css is down to the browser though, so itll still work despite what mediawiki says
[15:53:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> ???
[15:53:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> why is #tech below offtopic noe
[15:53:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> now*
[15:53:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> wtf
[15:53:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> lol
[15:53:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> somebody misclicked
[15:53:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1334274710804107367/1424725709678575757/togif-24.gif
[15:53:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to kai84> awwhh, little mediawiki doesn't want to support it... awhhh
[15:54:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> too BAD!!! WORK!!!
[15:54:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <prabhasxd> https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-our-table-table-table-break-roblox-our-table-its-broken-gif-24139982
[16:15:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to kai84> my brain just ignores mw linter warnings
[16:16:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> really good blog on interactions and animations https://rauno.me/craft/interaction-design
[16:17:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> I was so scared for years that !important would break my wiki
[16:19:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf, replying to amelialoveheart> That's when you fix it by stacking more !important on top of each other
[16:22:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to ccxtwf> hell yea thats how u do it
[16:22:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> css as the gods intended
[16:22:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1505244059151892600/Strip-CSS-respect-650-finalenglish1.png?ex=6a09eb45&is=6a0899c5&hm=de2b8437591eb60a34d59a64737b04ac8242a1233001a629c5d8674b833accb7&
[16:25:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to unai> content aside this website is amazing
[16:26:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Ladybird browser sure seems promising, tbh
[16:26:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> Not using nor Gecko, nor Chromium? That's fire
[16:27:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> it will take them ages to reach parity
[16:27:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> if they ever do
[16:27:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to unai> Still, at least there will be another alternative to those two
[16:27:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> i mean there's webkit
[16:27:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> maannn who cares about webkit other than google and apple
[16:28:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to amelialoveheart> you were correct
[16:28:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> bun runtime
[16:28:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to bartomelow> remove apple from that list
[16:28:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> and by extension, claude
[16:29:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to bartomelow> there *might be another alternative, id be surprised if it exits development hell
[16:29:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> i believe webkit is used in some linux distros
[16:29:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> gnome browser?
[16:29:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf, replying to unai> Did you hear about the 1M+ videcoded PR to rewrite in Rust
[16:29:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> https://tenor.com/view/burglin-gnomes-gnome-run-garden-gnome-run-away-gif-8266495356131074438
[16:29:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to ccxtwf> 😭
[16:29:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to ccxtwf> if i had infinite tokens i'd do that too yeah
[16:29:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> might as well rewrite mediawiki and parsoid to rust
[16:30:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> rewrite everything to rust. make no mistakes
[16:30:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> and drop the js sanitizer
[16:30:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to unai> would probably have better security
[16:30:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> i do have a sticker for this specific situation
[16:30:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf, replying to unai> People in chat I want your opinion on whether Parsoid rewritten in vibecoded Rust would be an upgrade to current Parsoid
[16:31:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to kai84> I heard it's planned to go alpha by the end of this year, hopefully
[16:31:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to ccxtwf> i'm sad the js one was dropped
[16:31:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf> It was JS first then rewritten to PHP, wasn't it?
[16:31:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to unai> `#!forbid[unsafe_code]`
[16:31:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> php then js then php afaik
[16:32:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> they cited performance issues and other things but realistically they could've applied these changes to the js codebase with enough time
[16:32:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to unai> i actually wonder what would happen if MediaWiki was completely rewritten
[16:32:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> i have a project in my radar to make mw work in the browser without a server
[16:32:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> so people can experiment freely with mw
[16:33:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> not everything will work but it could be fun
[16:33:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> wordpress, drupal, laravel, codeigniter and cakephp already work with https://github.com/seanmorris/php-wasm
[16:35:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to bartomelow> mw is a giant beast to rewrite, plus all the extensions and skins etc
[16:35:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> any rewrite would have to consider 3rd party compatibility by design
[16:36:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> at a small scale, you definitely can build your own wiki software. I did myself with Node.js for a small kpop wiki. But MW does a lot of things
[16:36:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf> It's also prolly impossible to rewrite all the 3rd party extensions
[16:37:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> "rewrite all 3rd party extensions, make pagetriage actually work outside english wikipedia, make no mistakes"
[16:37:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf> "Rewrite Semantic MediaWiki"
[16:37:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> oh my god I didn't realise you could just tell ai to not make mistakes
[16:37:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> "replace all smw instances with bucket but don't let them know using an alias"
[16:38:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to thewwrnerdguy> yeah sometimes the AI wants to prank us so we're telling them to be serious  :(
[16:39:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> i did use ai to build a table of es6+ features that work / not work with a test suite, so i can run it again when mw updates that stuff
[16:40:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84, replying to thewwrnerdguy> otherwise it will feel free to make mistakes
[17:25:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to ccxtwf> Not without rewriting mediawiki too
[17:32:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <candlesign.4539, replying to kai84> (I think that's reasonable, nesting still only has ~90% support so better not to rely on it)
[17:32:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <candlesign.4539> Desperately waiting for the day I can stop caring and just use it 💔
[17:35:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091, replying to unai> That thing was really unstable when I tested it a few weeks ago, would rather taking proprietary chromium-based web browser than that
[17:36:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> Hell even the Safari browser lacks a lot of modern stuffs
[20:28:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> #tech has been fixed 😌
[20:37:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> The world has been righted
[20:43:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> what was wrong with it
[20:45:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <daforest> Why not the world has been lefted?
[20:50:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> it had been moved on the channel list
[20:50:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> ewwwww criminal
[20:51:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> I do kinda want to move some things around though
[20:54:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here, replying to pskyechology> It and here switched placed for a few hours
[21:38:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai, replying to max20091> They've improved a lot lately. I forgot her name but the new "leader"  has done an amazing work
[21:39:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> and hey maybe that was a test to see if we noticed
[21:40:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <unai> https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-oogway-accidents-there-are-no-accidents-destiny-gif-16270886